Why doesn't password-locking your phone apply to turning the power off?

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johnjohn320

johnjohn320

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To do anything on my iPhone, you need to enter my password. That is, except, to hold the power switch and turn it off. Why is this? Seems like it would be helpful as far as theft goes...
 
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MixMasterTang

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So what would happen if the software froze, would you want to wait until the battery completely drained before you could reboot / power on/off your device?
 
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jagec

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Unless you can bypass the password when you turn it on again, I don't see the problem.
 
johnjohn320

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MixMasterTang said:
So what would happen if the software froze, would you want to wait until the battery completely drained before you could reboot / power on/off your device?
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When that happened with my RAZR back in the day I just took the battery out.
 
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benzylic

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HAL9000 said:
Depends which model
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Doesn't every iPhone model have a non-removable battery? Even if a phone with a removable battery made you put in a password to turn the device off wouldnt thieves, just oh I dont know... remove the battery?
 
HAL9000

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benzylic said:
Doesn't every iPhone model have a non-removable battery? Even if a phone with a removable battery made you put in a password to turn the device off wouldnt thieves, just oh I dont know... remove the battery?
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You can remove anything if you have the right tools. I've never repaired an iPhone 5, but the 4/4s takes three screws to remove the battery...
 
johnjohn320

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Jumpem said:
How would you get your phone stolen? I have never been concerned about this.
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Yeah, thieves don't exist. :rolleyes:

Mine was stolen out of my suitcase at the airport. Turned my back on it for a moment, turned back. Zipper open, no phone.
 
CZroe

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I want a tweak that FAKES a phone shutdown if it doesn't get my secret handshake first. It would also enable WiFi and go into "connect to any open WiFi AP you can even if you don't recognize it" mode at that point.
 
corkyg

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Why would an iPhone be put in an open zippered pouch in a suitcase? That's just asking for it. An iPhone or something similar should be on your person.
 
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bearxor

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Ichinisan said:
You know that nearly all phone thefts are opportunistic. :colbert:
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I don't know how true that is, but even if it were true, if I were the type to seize such an opportunity when it arises, I would definitely have a pentalobe screwdriver on hand, if phones required a passcode to turn them off.

But I'd like to think I'd be a smart thief and not an idiotic one.
 
CZroe

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I just finished learning about tenses, so I got this one guys:
corkyg said:
Why would an iPhone be put in an open zippered pouch in a suitcase? That's just asking for it. An iPhone or something similar should be on your person.
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It wasn't put in an open zippered pouch. It was closed inside a zippered pouch. The pouch was openED by the thief and then left open. Also, when getting on a plane where you can't use your phone anyway it loses the utility it normally provides and, therefore, much of the reason to be carried on your person.
 
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bearxor

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I don't think that's true. You're able to turn them on after you land while you're still taxing to the gate, you can put it in airplane mode and read a book or play a game while in flight. Maybe they even have WiFi on the flight.

My phone always stays in my pocket during flights.
 
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Necrolezbeast

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CZroe said:
I just finished learning about tenses, so I got this one guys:

It wasn't put in an open zippered pouch. It was closed inside a zippered pouch. The pouch was openED by the thief and then left open. Also, when getting on a plane where you can't use your phone anyway it loses the utility it normally provides and, therefore, much of the reason to be carried on your person.
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LOL... you start with an insult, but in fact it is your reading comprehension that fails here. He meant open pocket, as in not on the INSIDE of the suitcase... open is a rather common term for something that is easily accessible, or not enclosed, FYI
 
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MrX8503

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Use find my iPhone.

Like it was said before, what would you do if the software freezes?

Take out the battery? The thief could do that too.
 
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bearxor

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If software freezes, you could always still hold down the power button and then hold down the home button to force close. Or you could do power+home for a force reboot.

But a smart thief would simply put it in to recovery mode or always carry around a paper clip and remove the SIM card as soon as they could.

Having a passcode lock for power off sounds like a great idea, but there's so many other ways around it that it wouldn't deter a great deal of thefts.
 
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MrX8503

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bearxor said:
If software freezes, you could always still hold down the power button and then hold down the home button to force close. Or you could do power+home for a force reboot.
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Which the thief could do as well, lol. The point is that a password lock is not meant to stop a thief from stealing the device, its meant to stop the thief from accessing/stealing your DATA.
 
Ichinisan

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MrX8503 said:
Use find my iPhone.

Like it was said before, what would you do if the software freezes?

Take out the battery? The thief could do that too.
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Read the thread, please. It's not that easy to remove the battery from an iPhone.

bearxor said:
If software freezes, you could always still hold down the power button and then hold down the home button to force close. Or you could do power+home for a force reboot.

But a smart thief would simply put it in to recovery mode or always carry around a paper clip and remove the SIM card as soon as they could.

Having a passcode lock for power off sounds like a great idea, but there's so many other ways around it that it wouldn't deter a great deal of thefts.
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Most thieves are stupid. It's why they become thieves.

Not all iPhones have SIM cards.
 
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