why doesnt canada escape the evil clutches of the british empire?

[brianmanahan]

seriously, theres like nothing england could do to them now anyway

be free canada! be your own people!

 

[WelshBloke]

We still have an empire?

 

[Orignal Earl]

illuminati

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

seriously, theres like nothing england could do to them now anyway

be free canada! be your own people!

Facepalm.

 

[Zxian]

Wat?

 

[brianmanahan]

Facepalm.

you too australia! you are so far away from england that they probably dont remember that you are there, until it comes time every year for you to ship them a boatload of gold and kangaroos as a payment of fealty.

 

[brianmanahan]

We still have an empire?

oh yes

i have seen your queen parachuting out of jets, dont tell me you dont still have an empire!

 

[Doppel]

I'm not quite sure. For some reason Canada doesn't quite want to move out of the house it's been with for so long. Although for all general intents and purposes it is autonomous, and that's why nobody in Canada in general cares about the last vestiges of the Queen's rule, strictly speaking it is still subject to various extremely anachronistic processes which I think it should do away with so that it can look at itself in the mirror. It's embarrassing.

Of course if Canada told the Queen to pound sand England would do absolutely nothing, and it wouldn't even change the relationship between the two.

 

[brianmanahan]

Of course if Canada told the Queen to pound sand England would do absolutely nothing, and it wouldn't even change the relationship between the two.

maybe there would be a canadian revolutionary war?

given the canadian and british militaries it would probably be quite similar to the wars of 1770s and 1812.

 

[poohbear]

seriously, theres like nothing england could do to them now anyway

be free canada! be your own people!

lol ure joking right? How is Canada part of Britain in the 21st century? When they asked us join the war on Iraq with them & the USA, our PM told em (& the USA) to go to hell (I'm paraphrasing, but things were definitely rocky between the Bush administration & our Liberal government @ the time). That sounds pretty autonomous to me.

 

[brianmanahan]

well they still recognize a royal family

a ROYAL FAMILY - where you get to run the country just because your parent/grandparent did, and everyone is required to give you great honor despite you having to do absolutely nothing to deserve that admiration/honor

it just reeks of 1000 years ago tbh

 

[monovillage]

I thought the Idle No More movement was asking the Crowns help against Canada?

 

[Agent11]

Pretty sure the British royal family has no power, any Brits care to enlighten us on the finer details of your government?

 

[Dari]

We should invade.

 

[brianmanahan]

[redacted]

most likely british propaganda

Please don't quote the spam
-ViRGE

 

[Whiskey16]

seriously, theres like nothing England could do to them now anyway

be free canada! be your own people!

Trolling?

First up -- there hasn't been an English crown for centuries.... Likely you're thinking of the British crown as in the long attained union between Scotland and England presented the United Kingdom of Great Britain? Besides its neither crown for Canadians as it's the Crown of Canada in terms of our state and constitution.

If you are capable of an accurate and deeper thought, in all serious, do you
have a better alternative?

The monarchy of Canada does not need to be the same as the British. No legal nor constitutional binding to not recognise another figure. That it is British is out of tradition -- and I do not see Canadian society, the federal Parliament and every provincial legislature/assembly changing that anytime soon.

Now upon notions of becoming a republic, I'll first let you ponder the enormous costs involved in any such expulsion of the Canadian monarchy from the functions of state and provinces on down to the very real impossibility of re-entering the necessary constitutional negotiations and attaining 100% consensus among all provinces for such a change. Not going to happen. It was rushed through and attained with tyrannical warfare in what became the USA to purge the crown. Hardly democratic -- those factions with the power militarily won.

Consideration to diplomatic consensus probably would fall upon deaf ears for you folk south of the border, as your state was not given birth out of democratic civility, rather that of a violent -- and yes -- tyrannical civil war, pitting many domestic sides against each other. The US Revolution was that of a violent civil war where certain parties desiring an independent republic vanquished their fellow citizens of those former British 13 colonies who desired otherwise. It is of a utopian fantasy that your revolution was simply that of domestic insurrection against a foreign power or that of united colonies and their united society against the British crown.. For many of your past fellow nationalist they were still British and it was still their crown. Roughly 20% of the surviving loyalists fled as refugees from what became the USA, and of those ~60,000, ~40,000 settled in what was to become Canada.

Canadian society learned from the USA's often violent mis-steps and we have relatively peacefully attained our independence and freedom, and that came from what we chose not to be and what we became. Understand?

It's folly to be lectured by the likes of you upon how to attain a free and civil society.

 

[brianmanahan]

---snip monarchist propaganda---

ooookkayyyyy

have fun bowing to that queen of yours :whiste:

 

[WelshBloke]

Trolling?

First up -- there hasn't been an English crown for centuries.... Likely you're thinking of the British crown as in the long attained union between Scotland and England presented the United Kingdom of Great Britain? Besides its neither crown for Canadians as it's the Crown of Canada in terms of our state and constitution.

If you are capable of an accurate and deeper thought, in all serious, do you
have a better alternative?

The monarchy of Canada does not need to be the same as the British. No legal nor constitutional binding to not recognise another figure. That it is British is out of tradition -- and I do not see Canadian society, the federal Parliament and every provincial legislature/assembly changing that anytime soon.

Now upon notions of becoming a republic, I'll first let you ponder the enormous costs involved in any such expulsion of the Canadian monarchy from the functions of state and provinces on down to the very real impossibility of re-entering the necessary constitutional negotiations and attaining 100% consensus among all provinces for such a change. Not going to happen. It was rushed through and attained with tyrannical warfare in what became the USA to purge the crown. Hardly democratic -- those factions with the power militarily won.

Consideration to diplomatic consensus probably would fall upon deaf ears for you folk south of the border, as your state was not given birth out of democratic civility, rather that of a violent -- and yes -- tyrannical civil war, pitting many domestic sides against each other. The US Revolution was that of a violent civil war where certain parties desiring an independent republic vanquished their fellow citizens of those former British 13 colonies who desired otherwise. It is of a utopian fantasy that your revolution was simply that of domestic insurrection against a foreign power or that of united colonies and their united society against the British crown.. For many of your past fellow nationalist they were still British and it was still their crown. Roughly 20% of the surviving loyalists fled as refugees from what became the USA, and of those ~60,000, ~40,000 settled in what was to become Canada.

Canadian society learned from the USA's often violent mis-steps and we have relatively peacefully attained our independence and freedom, and that came from what we chose not to be and what we became. Understand?

It's folly to be lectured by the likes of you upon how to attain a free and civil society.

Errr...I think you might be taking this thread a tad too seriously.

 

[brianmanahan]

Errr...I think you might be taking this thread a tad too seriously.

well i actually appreciated his viewpoint, it is interesting

but it all got to be a bit much by the 5th paragraph

 

[WelshBloke]

well i actually appreciated his viewpoint, it is interesting

but it all got to be a bit much by the 5th paragraph

I'm not listening to you, I'm part of an empire dontcha know. La di da. We don't talk to your sort.

 

[Whiskey16]

Errr...I think you might be taking this thread a tad too seriously.

I know...But don't blame me in having fun attempting to raise this forum's currently low standards just a little higher, eh? ()


but I failed.... :$.... too many words presented in a word based forum where reasoned language is confusing and shunned.

 

[brianmanahan]

I know...But don't blame me in having fun attempting to raise this forum's currently low standards just a little higher, eh? ()


but I failed.... :$.... too many words presented in a word based forum where reasoned language is confusing and shunned.

i welcome reasoned language with open arms!

except for swares, i censor and report those

 

[Zxian]

well they still recognize a royal family

a ROYAL FAMILY - where you get to run the country just because your parent/grandparent did, and everyone is required to give you great honor despite you having to do absolutely nothing to deserve that admiration/honor

it just reeks of 1000 years ago tbh

And American money still has "In God We Trust" written all over it - does this mean that the American government is a branch of the Church? No, it's a remnant of history that just hasn't been changed. I could say that it "reeks of 200 years ago".

We Canadians only really "see" the royal family in the news and on the back of our coins, and even then only the Queen. The Queen's only place in the government is that she has a figurehead (the Governor General) who is appointed by our Prime Minister. The Governor General basically just signs off on all laws on behalf of the Queen. It's a formality - nothing more.

 

[klinc]

Canada too busy filling the world with iranuim and poisoning Canadians with tritium

 

[brianmanahan]

And American money still has "In God We Trust" written all over it - does this mean that the American government is a branch of the Church?

lol, it never meant that to begin with