Why doesn't a bunny die at 10 F?

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MovingTarget

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...because they are posted in people's signatures intent on world domination? It seems to be quite warm there in your laptop. :p

Rabbits are more suited for their environment than we are. We evolved in a warm climate and were able to use other means than pure biology to survive and spread into colder climates.
 

DrPizza

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Actually, their coats are a lot better insulation than you think.

edit: and you're soft if 5 seconds at 10 degrees with a sweater on is that bad. Hell, during my kitchen remodeling today, I isolated the room from the rest of the house for most of the afternoon. I didn't notice how cold it was getting - and I had jeans and a t-shirt on all day.

What really sucks is that as a result, the washing machine froze up in the room off of the kitchen. Frozen as in ice. Hair drier thawed the hoses to the washer. After about 10 minutes, the water started running & the washer filled up. However, it appears that there's ice in the pump or something; it won't agitate; the motor just hums. (I turn it off within 2 seconds.)
 

DaTT

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Originally posted by: PieIsAwesome
A vicious beast capable of decapitating a full-grown man cannot succumb to mere cold.

I laughed.
 

0roo0roo

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hunched up they arent much more than a furball. as said, its probably the surface to volume ratio. i still doubt the rabbit would be all that happy at 10f
 

Argo

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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
10F is not really that cold. I'm usually outside in tshirt shoveling snow at that temp. Start off with a coat but after shoveling 1/4 of the driveway the coat is off.

Squirrels and I assume bunnies have been known to live normally outside in temps of like -30C which is about -22F. Their fur helps a lot. In the cold what kills us humans the most is windchill, but a furry animal is not affected as much due to their fur.

Though sometimes I wonder about my cat. She sleeps in her little house thing that's on top of the heater. It must be like +35 in there LOL. Cats tend to really hate the cold.
If you are in a t-shirt in 10F, even while shoveling, something is wrong with your internal thermostat, honestly!! :)

Nah physical activity makes me sweat easily so it does not take time for me to have to take my coat off. I tend to keep my mitts on though since the metal bar of the scoop gets a cold.

When I go workout after I'm done I walk out of the gym still in shorts and tshirt (with coat on since I already have my gym bag to carry). I'm not cold at all when I do this even in -30. But by the time I drive home I get in the house rather fast. :p

I can confirm that - I go home from the gym in shorts and t-shirt with a coat on and I usually don't feel cold until I'm almost home, which is about a 5 minute walk away.
 

SearchMaster

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My sister had a pet rabbit once that my dad made her keep in a hutch outside. I can confirm that some bunnies will indeed die at temperatures below 20F.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: SearchMaster
My sister had a pet rabbit once that my dad made her keep in a hutch outside. I can confirm that some bunnies will indeed die at temperatures below 20F.
haha!!

 

rasczak

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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
10F is not really that cold. I'm usually outside in tshirt shoveling snow at that temp. Start off with a coat but after shoveling 1/4 of the driveway the coat is off.

Squirrels and I assume bunnies have been known to live normally outside in temps of like -30C which is about -22F. Their fur helps a lot. In the cold what kills us humans the most is windchill, but a furry animal is not affected as much due to their fur.

Though sometimes I wonder about my cat. She sleeps in her little house thing that's on top of the heater. It must be like +35 in there LOL. Cats tend to really hate the cold.
If you are in a t-shirt in 10F, even while shoveling, something is wrong with your internal thermostat, honestly!! :)

Nah physical activity makes me sweat easily so it does not take time for me to have to take my coat off. I tend to keep my mitts on though since the metal bar of the scoop gets a cold.

When I go workout after I'm done I walk out of the gym still in shorts and tshirt (with coat on since I already have my gym bag to carry). I'm not cold at all when I do this even in -30. But by the time I drive home I get in the house rather fast. :p


sweating in freezing temps like that will bring on hypothermia <--- i learned this from a bear.
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: Exterous
I think it has to do with their higher metabolism. They build up a layer of fat during the summer and then they burn through it more quickly to generate heat/energy

Correct.

They have a higher body temp. and a lot more insulation than we do. Humans, with our thin, hairless, exposed limbs and low metabolism, are pretty weak creatures. We make up for it with intelligence however, which is how we survive.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
10F is not really that cold. I'm usually outside in tshirt shoveling snow at that temp. Start off with a coat but after shoveling 1/4 of the driveway the coat is off.

Squirrels and I assume bunnies have been known to live normally outside in temps of like -30C which is about -22F. Their fur helps a lot. In the cold what kills us humans the most is windchill, but a furry animal is not affected as much due to their fur.

Though sometimes I wonder about my cat. She sleeps in her little house thing that's on top of the heater. It must be like +35 in there LOL. Cats tend to really hate the cold.
If you are in a t-shirt in 10F, even while shoveling, something is wrong with your internal thermostat, honestly!! :)

Nah physical activity makes me sweat easily so it does not take time for me to have to take my coat off. I tend to keep my mitts on though since the metal bar of the scoop gets a cold.

When I go workout after I'm done I walk out of the gym still in shorts and tshirt (with coat on since I already have my gym bag to carry). I'm not cold at all when I do this even in -30. But by the time I drive home I get in the house rather fast. :p


sweating in freezing temps like that will bring on hypothermia <--- i learned this from a bear.
I think sweating is ok, it's when you stop if you don't get into a warm environment. This is why long distance runners can do an event with very little clothing but as soon as they stop moving and their body still thinks it has to sweat they have to immediately put on some warm clothing or an insulation blanket.
 

Strk

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Size by itself doesn't really have much to do with warmth. A lot of it has to do with how much heat it can produce. That's where things like good circulation come into play.

It's kind of like how you'll have overweight people bitch about being cold. Sure, they have a lot of insulation, but their circulation is crap and there is little muscle underneath everything. Yet someone with an athletic build will take a lot more to get cold.

As for the rabbit, it has the layer of fat and the fur, so it's insulated, but it's also got a good heat source. This reminds me of a car commercial (well, car-related; I'm not sure which company made it). There were two women in a car talking about how come squirrels aren't fat. One of them responds "well, they get a lot of cardio."
 

BassBomb

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: Exterous
I think it has to do with their higher metabolism. They build up a layer of fat during the summer and then they burn through it more quickly to generate heat/energy

Correct.

They have a higher body temp. and a lot more insulation than we do. Humans, with our thin, hairless, exposed limbs and low metabolism, are pretty weak creatures. We make up for it with intelligence however, which is how we survive.

Speak for yourself
 

Itchrelief

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Originally posted by: SearchMaster
My sister had a pet rabbit once that my dad made her keep in a hutch outside. I can confirm that some bunnies will indeed die at temperatures below 20F.

You know what the request is.
 

trmiv

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Originally posted by: Strk
Size by itself doesn't really have much to do with warmth. A lot of it has to do with how much heat it can produce. That's where things like good circulation come into play.

It's kind of like how you'll have overweight people bitch about being cold. Sure, they have a lot of insulation, but their circulation is crap and there is little muscle underneath everything. Yet someone with an athletic build will take a lot more to get cold.

If this is the case, why do fat guys wear shorts all year?