Why does the USA not fix its legal system?

Thira

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The rest of the world is laughing. When are the citizens going to stop the rape and do something about the legal transfer of wealth and stop the blood letting forced upon its citizens by the legal class?
 

JellyBaby

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Most politicians are lawyers. This means the people writing our laws are the ones who benefit from them the most. As for class warfare, until everyone has high-quality education, no money motivator, and the same genetic qualities, you'll always have it to some degree.
 

unxpurg8d

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We like the U.S. legal system just the way it is, thank you. It gives us the Court TV channel, "Cops", and a chance to catch up on all our relatives that live across country that we're too cheap to call. "Look, Ma! There's Raybob on TV!"


Besides, if we DID fix the legal system then you'd just rant on about some boring thing like animal rights or evironmental protection and I'd have to take even more time out from cruising the recipe databases for Beer Butt Chicken and interesting ways to cook raccoon to type something totally irrelevant and obnoxious.
 

Thira

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To 403 Forbidden & unxpurg8d:
By the nature of your responses I gather the following. That firstly the two of you are either American lawyers or retired American lawyers, having transferred enough wealth to your coffers. Or that you have little understanding of how much cost is added to what you pay for i.e insurance, health care, consumer goods, recreation simply secondary to liability issues and payouts to settle cases. This says nothing about one being responsible and not holding others responsible for one's actions ( or maybe morality and ethics do not enter into either's existence).
Hey, but the rest of the world must really lack smarts! After all, does not the USA have the vast majority of the world's lawyers??
 

403Forbidden

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Thira,

I suspect you gather your "knowledge" of the legal field from pop culture.

Just so you know, Japan has the highest lawyer to general population ratio.

Further discussion in this thread will just lead to the usual and tired
anti-lawyer rants. Boring




 

KidViciou$

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yea, the rest of the world is laughign at us, but when we flex our muscle, they tremble in their knees
 

unxpurg8d

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Gee, Thira, can you ever REALLY suck enough of the rest of humanity's wealth into your coffers??!?!? Lawyer, hooker, politician, housewife......doesn't everyone prostitute themselves in one sense or another for the furtherance of their own well-being and/or coffer-filling? As for morality and ethics - I gave all mine to my children, thank you.

I really hadn't considered a career in law, but thank you so much for pointing out the positive aspects!
 

Moonbeam

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We love our lawyers and never make jokes about them. You can't really rape and steal the worlds resources and have us 6% of the population owing 40% of the resources without lawyers to legalize the theft. Naturally we deride and scoff at the World Court. They have something to do with the illuminati and black helicopters, and besides don't have our brainwashing so they won't make objective (favorable) decissions. You also need layyers to say 'That's not true' to any truth that starts to take hold anywhere, cause that could lead to revolution. You have the wrong idea. The money is in being an appologist for wealth. You are probably a dirty filthy Class Warfare person. You are the worst threat there is. What is wrong with me having everything and you having nothing if I earn it. If I want to waste my lifeforce on a single minded effort to earning money and own everything and I don't care a whit about the destruction I cause or whether everybody goes extinct a hundred years from now, I'm gonna get the best lawyers money can buy to make sure nobody gets in my way.

The lawyers that make me sick are the ones who believe in something and get in the way, like the ACLU.

 

Thira

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403Forbidden:
Truly a lawyer's response! Distortion of the facts, ie Japan???? How accurate is that statement? But yes this is the internet where statements need not a basis in fact. Where did that statement come from?

Do you really believe school teachers are in it for the money?

I did notice no denial that the two of you are lawyers.

Lastly if this thread is so boring, why are you indulging yourself in it?
:D;)
 

Tominator

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Trial Lawyers are the largest contributors to the Democrat Party. It will be Republicans that pass tort reform.
 

Russ

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Why are you people even responding to this 'Tard? The post was obviously flamebait.

Russ, NCNE
 

kduncan5

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Moonbeam, I truly hope that you don't actually subscribe to that philosophy.....:Q



But, hey, this is America! Where you can believe anything you want to believe.:) -kd5-
 

UG

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Unlike the majority of nations of the world, we are a nation of laws. We don't think it is wise to settle our differences by dueling or homocide, we think it is better to settle them in court.

Go to court without a lawyer? You're a fool.

Would you rather settle your differences with someone else as would a mob beating to death a victim and then throwing his body out the window so the crowd below can stomp justice into him, or would you rather take it to court with a lawyer?

If you think the legal system is unnecessarily complex, you haven't seriously considered the alternative. We've been there, we've done that. That's why we have our legal system, imperfect though it may be.

 

AvesPKS

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Hmm...most lawsuits stemming from personal irresponsibility take money from the have and give to the have-nots...after all, you never see poor people suing rich people for an auto accident with no insurance...
 

AvesPKS

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Oh, and one other thing...other countries can laugh, but I'm proud to live in (in my humble opinion) the bestest country in the world...I'm not going to college because I have a passion for EE; to quote Han Solo, "I'm in it for the money, sister."
 

Thira

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Fallout from the Tobacco settlement. A major fallout in the settlement of the tobacco settlement really has little to do with smoking or the damages as a result of smoking cigarettes. It has to do with influencing law making.

The plantiff law firms now have their coffers overflowing with settlement monies in the hundred of millions of US dollars. Using loop holes in US and state law, these same law firms are now targeting the elected legislators. Candidates to elected government positions who favor tort reform are targeted. The opposition to these tort reform candidates are now being heavily funded in their bid to replace or defeat their tort reform counterparts.

Does this seem the intention of the tobacco settlement?

This certainly must reduce the suffering of those afflicted with disease from tobacco, prevention, or the financial burden resulting from using tobacco products for the rest of US society.

This is good! What do you think people of the USA?
 

JellyBaby

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<< We don't think it is wise to settle our differences by dueling or homocide, we think it is better to settle them in court. >>

UG,

Speak for yourself please. If anyone disses me, you know I'm gonna open up a can of whoopass and git jiggie wit it!

I'll choose direct physical confrontation over Mattlock any day of the week. ;)
 

mosdef

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Though somewhat offtrack, I've always wondered if any branch of the U.S. government will wind up being licensed out. For example, a privately run judicial system? This is so far-fetched and completely conflicts with what this country is based on. But hey, it could happen!

-mosdef