Solved! Why does the RTX 2070 Super not just mop the floor with the RTX 2060 Super?

[SteveGrabowski]

In looking at the gpu specs on techpowerup, the RTX 2070 Super looks to have a 40% advantage in FP32 computation at 9.062 TFLOPS to 6.451 TFLOPS. While at 1440p in techpowerup's gaming testsuite the 2070S only outperforms the 2060S by 17.6%. At 4k it's only 19.0%. So what gives? I look at those wildly different FP32 throughput numbers and think the 2070S should age a lot better than the 2060S, but the performance difference in gaming right now doesn't seem to be all that much. For $100 difference I'd much rather buy the 2070S if it stays relevant significantly longer as you might guess from the 40% higher FP32 throughput, but if it's going to stay a <20% difference in gaming performance I'd probably opt for the cheaper card.

 

[Stuka87]

In looking at the gpu specs on techpowerup, the RTX 2070 Super looks to have a 40% advantage in FP32 computation at 9.062 TFLOPS to 6.451 TFLOPS. While at 1440p in techpowerup's gaming testsuite the 2070S only outperforms the 2060S by 17.6%. At 4k it's only 19.0%. So what gives? I look at those wildly different FP32 throughput numbers and think the 2070S should age a lot better than the 2060S, but the performance difference in gaming right now doesn't seem to be all that much. For $100 difference I'd much rather buy the 2070S if it stays relevant significantly longer as you might guess from the 40% higher FP32 throughput, but if it's going to stay a <20% difference in gaming performance I'd probably opt for the cheaper card.

FP32 is only one specific type of calculation. When it comes to rasterization performance, there are many factors that come into play.

 

[Bouowmx]

The comparison is 9062 to 7180 GFLOPS. You confused the GeForce RTX 2060 vanilla and SUPER.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

The comparison is 9062 to 7180 GFLOPS. You confused the GeForce RTX 2060 vanilla and SUPER.

Crap, yeah that's it. 26% bump for 2070S over 2060S vs 40% bump over 2060.

 

[Zstream]

Trust me, I went looking for an upgrade for my 2060, and it’s not looking pretty. Are people really spending $500 for a 2070S/2080? That just seems borderline crazy..

 

[guachi]

You own a current generation product. I'm not surprised you can't find an upgrade.

The 2060S, at its debut, had worse price/performance than the 2060 (which is probably why the 2060 still exists) and the 2070S and, especially, the 2080S are over priced (grossly so in the case of the 2080S).

 

[EliteRetard]

I still think graphics cards need a drastic price adjust.
Nvidia has a more complete lineup right now so I'll use their naming convention for my example.

MAX retail price:
(eliminate garbage like GT 1030)
x10 (1050 <75w class) $65
x30 (1650) $100
x50 (1660ti) $175
X60 $250
X70 $350
X80 $450
X80ti $600
Titan $800

If AMD could compete at the high end then X80ti $550 and Titan $700.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Trust me, I went looking for an upgrade for my 2060, and it’s not looking pretty. Are people really spending $500 for a 2070S/2080? That just seems borderline crazy..

Honestly if I was going to buy a gpu today the only two I'd choose from are used RX 570 for ~$80 shipped to play most current gen games at decent settings or new RTX 2070 Super for ~$540 after tax to try to get slightly above next gen consoles. But that $540 price tag sounds horrific for console parity so I think I'm most likely to go the PS5 for next gen games + used RX 570 for stuff right now route.