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Why does removed SSID keep appearing?

Skyzoomer

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I'm running Vista Home Premium 64bit on a Dell Studio 1537 laptop which is connecting wireless to a Belkin N router to a wired WinXP Pro desktop.

When I first setup the wireless laptop, I set the SSID to "DadNet" in the router and the laptop. Later I decided to change the SSID name to a new name. Call it "New Name". So I changed the SSID in the router to "New Name". In Vista, I removed the "DadNet" network and setup a new SSID of "New Name".

My problem is that when I power off and reboot the laptop, the wireless connection is automatically made but when I hover over the network icon in the system tray, it says:

"Currently connected to:
DadNet (New Name)
Access Local and Internet"

I figured "DadNet" must still be in the registry somewhere so I used regedit and did find one instance of "DadNet" so I deleted that registry entry. Now when I search the entire registry, there is no "DadNet" in it. Yet when I reboot, the "DadNet (New Name)" still appears when I hover over the network icon in the system tray.

Networking works but I want to get rid of the "DadNet". Any ideas?
 

Skyzoomer

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Originally posted by: JackMDS
It is probably saved the Wireless List, remove it.

http://www.ezlan.net/vista/wiremange.jpg
Jack,

That "Manage Wireless Networks" window is how I originally removed the "DadNet" network. I right clicked on the "DadNet" icon and clicked Remove Network. When It still appeared when I booted my laptop, I deleted the one and only "DadNet" entry in the registry. It still appeared even after several power off/on reboots.

But guess what? My problem has cleared itself. I powered the laptop on before checking this thread and it's gone. Vista works in mysterious ways.

Thanks for taking the time to help,
Skyzoomer
 

n0cmonkey

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It was probably cached somewhere. Did it still work even though it said DadNet? I'm wondering if it used the bssid for connection and a cached name for the ssid.
 

Skyzoomer

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
It was probably cached somewhere. Did it still work even though it said DadNet? I'm wondering if it used the bssid for connection and a cached name for the ssid.

Yes, networking still worked though it said "DadNet (New Name)" when I hovered over the networking icon in the system tray. But when I clicked connect/disconnect and the display with all of the SSIDs broadcasting in my area appeared, only the "New Name" without mention of "DadNet" was listed. IOW, the "DadNet" only appeared while hovering over the networking icon in the system tray.

Thanks,
Skyzoomer
 

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I assume that you are managing the Wireless with Windows and the original Manufacturer Wireless utility is Not running in the background.

Borrow another Laptop and try so you can rule out "Crazy" Router.

Otherwise if every thing works OK beside the name appearing when you hover over the Icon, I would leave it alone.
 

Skyzoomer

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Originally posted by: JackMDS
I assume that you are managing the Wireless with Windows and the original Manufacturer Wireless utility is Not running in the background.

Borrow another Laptop and try so you can rule out "Crazy" Router.

Otherwise if every thing works OK beside the name appearing when you hover over the Icon, I would leave it alone.

I'm managing the wireless with Vista as far as I know. I just checked msconfig.
..... Startup: I don't see anything that looks related to wireless.
..... Services: I see "Dell wireless WLAN tray service". Is this the wireless utility you suggested NOT be running in the background?

When I did the power on boot this morning, the DadNet did not appear. I think it may have been cached as was mentioned and Vista fixed itself. I'll consider this problem resolved unless it comes back to haunt me.

Thanks,
Skyzoomer
 

Skyzoomer

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Originally posted by: Skyzoomer
When I first setup the wireless laptop, I set the SSID to "DadNet" in the router and the laptop. Later I decided to change the SSID name to a new name. Call it "New Name". So I changed the SSID in the router to "New Name". In Vista, I removed the "DadNet" network and setup a new SSID of "New Name".

My problem is that when I power off and reboot the laptop, the wireless connection is automatically made but when I hover over the network icon in the system tray, it says:

"Currently connected to:
DadNet (New Name)
Access Local and Internet"
I found the "DadNet" problem but need help resolving it.
After "DadNet" had not been displayed for a while, it was mind boggling when "DadNet" was displayed again on my last power on boot. (See the quote above for a refresher.)

To troubleshoot, I turned off the wireless in my Dell laptop using the manual switch and connected the laptop to the router using cable. I rebooted and when I hovered over the networking icon in the system tray it then said:

"Currently connected to:
DadNet
Access Local and Internet"

I opened the Network and Sharing Center, and saw "LAPTOP ====== DadNet ====== Internet"
So I clicked "Customize" and discovered why the "DadNet" was so persistent. I had changed "Public" to "Private" and entered "DadNet" as the Network Name.

I tried blanking the name out but Vista will not allow it, it has to have a name there. Can this network name be anything? What's the purpose of this particular Network Name?

Hope someone can explain it. I googled quite a bit and was not able to find an answer. Thanks.

 

NickOlsen8390

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Well I don't think there really is a reason for it other then identifying a network. I know that mine is set automatically by DHCP to "141-Networks" (my domain name). And back at my old Highschool it would set it self to "Brevard Public Schools"
Only thing I can think of is like it will display the same name by network, not my wireless your connected to, So like if you connect to your wireless and it doesn't say "dadnet" there might be a problem.
 

Skyzoomer

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Originally posted by: NickOlsen8390
Well I don't think there really is a reason for it other then identifying a network. I know that mine is set automatically by DHCP to "141-Networks" (my domain name). And back at my old Highschool it would set it self to "Brevard Public Schools"
Only thing I can think of is like it will display the same name by network, not my wireless your connected to, So like if you connect to your wireless and it doesn't say "dadnet" there might be a problem.

If it's just a name identifier for a network with no other affect, then I won't worry about it.

Thanks,
Skyzoomer