Why does Intel always fare better on THG compared to msot other sites?

[BDSM]

I have been browsing AMD64 FX reviews on different sites for the last two hours or so and I must say I am surprised to see the large differences different sites get when benchmarking the same configurations.

The best review so far by a long shot is in my opinion Aceshardware. .. Anyway.. can anyone shed light on why the intel parts fare so much better on thg compared to for instance aces?
I am aware that thg has a 3.6 ghz part but if you compare the other parts there is still a big difference. At least at a first glance.

Anyone have nay comments on this?

 

[SithSolo1]

Because, IMO, THG is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to hardware reviews.

Bias and money are all THG is about. :|

 

[Salamandar]

Originally posted by: SithSolo1
Because, IMO, THG is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to hardware reviews.

Bias and money are all THG is about. :|

I Agree ! It should be pointed as Toms hard where ?

 

[Platinum321]

THG is telling it as it is. THG purposely uses the best of each brand and does not purposely cripple any particular brand by using low quality parts because the other brand does not have the equivalent high quality components (ie: putting regular unleaded gas into a Ferrari because the Ford Focus can not take advantage of supreme unleaded). People have a natural tendency to see the underdogs rise above their competition and a lot of review sites want hits so they entertain this concept by putting favorable bias on the underdog's product.

THG is probably one of the best hardware review site there is w/ in depth analysis.

 

[Ray5150Ray]

The only hardware THG knows about are the kites they fly!!!!

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Platinum321
THG is telling it as it is. THG purposely uses the best of each brand and does not purposely cripple any particular brand by using low quality parts because the other brand does not have the equivalent high quality components (ie: putting regular unleaded gas into a Ferrari because the Ford Focus can not take advantage of supreme unleaded). People have a natural tendency to see the underdogs rise above their competition and a lot of review sites want hits so they entertain this concept by putting favorable bias on the underdog's product.

THG is probably one of the best hardware review site there is w/ in depth analysis.

LOLOLOLOL

 

[alexruiz]

Originally posted by: Salamandar

Originally posted by: SithSolo1
Because, IMO, THG is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to hardware reviews.

Bias and money are all THG is about. :|

I Agree ! It should be pointed as Toms hard where ?

Nice new name..... LOL

 

I dont blame you AMD fans for being honked off. I would be also..
Tom's did a nice review. I think they were very enthusiastic in their comments in every test that the
Athlon FX beat the Pentium 3.2 (standard). I also think it was commendable of them not to mention every test
that the P4 3.2EE beat the Athlon FX in until the end of the review. This was probably out of respect for AMD not to put too much emphasis on Intels (literally last minute) entry. I think they did an excellent job, as I'm sure other review sites did as well. Hopefully, AMD will fare a bit better in the next review when they crank up the clock speed.

GM

 

[sandorski]

The THW is not bad, but he kinda confused the issue by including Overclocked P4EE scores. So the P4EE looks to be the clear winner, but if you ignore the overclocked benches the P4EE fairs about as well as most other AthlonFX/64 vs P4EE reviews, which is, not quite as good, but certainly better than a P4 3.2ghz.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Platinum321
THG is telling it as it is. THG purposely uses the best of each brand and does not purposely cripple any particular brand by using low quality parts because the other brand does not have the equivalent high quality components (ie: putting regular unleaded gas into a Ferrari because the Ford Focus can not take advantage of supreme unleaded). People have a natural tendency to see the underdogs rise above their competition and a lot of review sites want hits so they entertain this concept by putting favorable bias on the underdog's product.

THG is probably one of the best hardware review site there is w/ in depth analysis.

Hi Tom... so you do make it to AnandTech's boards every now and then huh?

 

[jiffylube1024]

I thought the THG review was decent - he did the most thorough testing with the most possible configurations/CPU's, but as usual misinterpreted the results (what's new).

Instead of saying something along the lines of "the Athlon 64 and Athlon FX series perform extremely well - besting Intel's top-of-the-line 3.2C in essentially all tests. In what can only be seen as a knee-jerk reaction to keep the performance crown, Intel has shamelessly released a 2MB L3 cache-equipped CPU, which will only be affordable in the ultra-high-end. All in all, a solid step forward by AMD" (my words), THG says something to the effect of "well the Athlon 64 and FX do pretty well, but are bested by the P4 EE in most tests. An uncertain future lies ahead for AMD's new chips".

I mean, he has 3.6GHz P4 EE results for god's sakes. Why not just get some prometia and cool that sucker to 4 Ghz. That will really teach AMD a lesson, eh?

I'm probably going to get a 2.4C for my next CPU, but I find Intel releasing this EE chip "conveniently" around the public launch of the A64 is a shameless marketing ploy.

 

[Jeff7181]

Did Tom include overclocked Athlon-64 results... like maybe one overclocked to 2.6 Ghz?

Maybe something similar to what was done to get these results?

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Did Tom include overclocked Athlon-64 results... like maybe one overclocked to 2.6 Ghz?

Maybe something similar to what was done to get these results?

And how about some 2.8Ghz FX loving Here.

Note how well it scales as the clock rises.

 

[PCboy]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Did Tom include overclocked Athlon-64 results... like maybe one overclocked to 2.6 Ghz?

Maybe something similar to what was done to get these results?

exactly.. WHY did he include the overclocked P4EE results in the first place? Maybe if he included the A64 overclocked benchmarks like Aces Hardware, then we can start some discussion, but he didn't so I smell something fishy..

wish the A64 could be overclocked to 3.4ghz.. coughs* 29k 3dmark?.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: PCboy

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Did Tom include overclocked Athlon-64 results... like maybe one overclocked to 2.6 Ghz?

Maybe something similar to what was done to get these results?

exactly.. WHY did he include the overclocked P4EE results in the first place? Maybe if he included the A64 overclocked benchmarks like Aces Hardware, then we can start some discussion, but he didn't so I smell something fishy..

wish the A64 could be overclocked to 3.4ghz.. coughs* 29k 3dmark?.

He included one overclocked A64 result only: 2.2 Ghz (which is set to come out anyways in the near future).

 

Actually fellas, I'm kinda confused myself. You see, the 3.2EE, 3.4EE, and 3.6EE are all running at 200FSB (800). so what was overclocked? Take another look and please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks,

GM

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: gorillaman
Actually fellas, I'm kinda confused myself. You see, the 3.2EE, 3.4EE, and 3.6EE are all running at 200FSB (800). so what was overclocked? Take another look and please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks,

GM

Did Intel Paper launch the 3.4 & 3.6 as well as the 3.2 EE today? No.

 

Then how do you explain the FSB speeds? hmmmmm?
Cmon DBZ, gimme something concrete not just sarcasm. Use that brain for a change...

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: gorillaman
Then how do you explain the FSB speeds? hmmmmm?
Cmon DBZ, gimme something concrete not just sarcasm. Use that brain for a change...

ENGINEERING SAMPLE.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: gorillaman
Then how do you explain the FSB speeds? hmmmmm?
Cmon DBZ, gimme something concrete not just sarcasm. Use that brain for a change...

ENGINEERING SAMPLE.

That and Gorilliaman, stop kissing Tom's ass.

 

[orion7144]

I think his review was good. On the captions under the results it never said anything about the P4EE, but compared the new AMD chips to the 3.2 P4C.

The price that Intel is launching the EE is only $50 more than the highest FX.

We don't need to be bashing, we need to be happy that the race is on again for performace.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: orion7144
I think his review was good. On the captions under the results it never said anything about the P4EE, but compared the new AMD chips to the 3.2 P4C.

The price that Intel is launching the EE is only $50 more than the highest FX.

We don't need to be bashing, we need to be happy that the race is on again for performace.

Too bad it wasn't. Read more reviews, such as Tech Reports. Sure, maybe it is only $50 higher than the FX, but which one can you buy now?

 

[orion7144]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: orion7144
I think his review was good. On the captions under the results it never said anything about the P4EE, but compared the new AMD chips to the 3.2 P4C.

The price that Intel is launching the EE is only $50 more than the highest FX.

We don't need to be bashing, we need to be happy that the race is on again for performace.

Too bad it wasn't. Read more reviews, such as Tech Reports. Sure, maybe it is only $50 higher than the FX, but which one can you buy now?

I'd wait anyway. My 2.4C's at 275FSB 3.4gig would be near the top of those lists anyway so I am in no need to get a new one.

 

[xenos500]

Originally posted by: Platinum321
THG is telling it as it is. THG purposely uses the best of each brand and does not purposely cripple any particular brand by using low quality parts because the other brand does not have the equivalent high quality components (ie: putting regular unleaded gas into a Ferrari because the Ford Focus can not take advantage of supreme unleaded). People have a natural tendency to see the underdogs rise above their competition and a lot of review sites want hits so they entertain this concept by putting favorable bias on the underdog's product.

THG is probably one of the best hardware review site there is w/ in depth analysis.

I agree, a lot

 

Which can YOU buy right now. Are you going to pay 799 for the AMD? Huh?
I also like how DBZ went from "overclocked" to "Engineering Sample". That is all I needed to show
that you are not even sure what you mean with these posts. You have a desparate need to see AMD declared the
best. Its a sick thing dude. Just listen to yourself "and your psychologist".

I have made my point DBZ whether you choose to believe it or not. Credibility is completely lost when you change what you say. All it takes is one time.

Later.