Why does Google hate everyone? Nexus S 4G isn't dual core? WTF?

[Monster_Munch]

Google should focus 100% of their Andoid energy on implimenting GPU acceleration in the UI. I've played with a dual core Android device, and honestly it still felt super sluggish.

Have you tried a dual core phone running android 2.3? The new concurrent garbage collector combined with a dual core should go some way to eliminating choppiness.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Lag gone with LP or ADW? We must have a different definition of what lag is, I run CM7 with both installed, and my OC'ed Droid is close to unusable at times. I've never seen an Android device that was smooth, the best I've seen was one that was a bit less choppy. Android needs serious work on GPU acceleration, you say it's in HC but I didn't notice it when I used a Xoom for about a minute. Also on my Droid with 2.3 or whatever CM7 uses can be painfully slow when it feels like it. I don't multi-task either

Im thinking of going back to CM6 for this reason on my Milestone.

Also the Xoom probably has 3D acceleration. They just REALLY spiced up the graphics that its once again struggling to run smoothly. Are the 3D animations necessary? It's like that stupid Flip3D and Aero business with Vista. When Vista came out you needed top cutting edge hardware to run it decently well. Even then it wasn't that great. You don't need insane hardware to get the animations in OS X. Why do they keep building software that requires cutting edge hardware to run? Or in the case of Android, Google keeps releasing bloated/overdone software that requires tomorrow's hardware.

Instead of optimizing Android, Google relies on newer hardware out there to brute force make it run fast. If it were done right it would've run buttery smooth on the Droid when that launched, and so with newer hardware, we would never even worry about performance. Meaning instead of having devs slave over overclocking, custom kernels and faster launchers just so our devices can perform adequately, we could be expanding the Android Market with useful apps.

There is no iphone based on the a5, why bring it up? It's also been suggested that there won't be a new one until the fall, which really makes it moot to this discussion. Finally, you keep suggestng that Google should have a Nexus phone with these specs, and you cite Android development pace, but completely ignore that there have only been two Nexus phones. Google doesnt work that way, nor have they suggested that they do.

The phome you suggest doesnt exist anywhere, from anyone, so your indignant attitude suggesting there is no excuse for Googlw not to have one of their own seems seriously misplaced.

I think some of the angst about the Nexus phone is that the NS was launched on the cusp of dual core smartphone launches. The N1 on the other hand launched when no other 1ghz phone was out. Had the Nexus S been the SGS2 instead, I think there'd be a LOT of hype and buzz... at least more excitement than the current Nexus S phone.

 

[Monster_Munch]

Instead of optimizing Android, Google relies on newer hardware out there to brute force make it run fast.

That's not true though, every major update has had some performance improvements. 2.2 had the JIT compiler, 2.3 has an improved garbage collector and optimized UI. 3.0 has hardware acceleration so maybe 2.4 will have as well.

 

[destrekor]

Lag gone with LP or ADW? We must have a different definition of what lag is, I run CM7 with both installed, and my OC'ed Droid is close to unusable at times. I've never seen an Android device that was smooth, the best I've seen was one that was a bit less choppy. Android needs serious work on GPU acceleration, you say it's in HC but I didn't notice it when I used a Xoom for about a minute. Also on my Droid with 2.3 or whatever CM7 uses can be painfully slow when it feels like it. I don't multi-task either

Half the problem is using CM7.

I'm discovering CM7, or specifically Gingerbread, just hasn't been designed for older phones. It actually gets really sluggish on the Droid. I haven't been running it long, and haven't been enjoying it much either (though it definitely looks nice, and aside from phone-specific issues, Gingerbread/CM7 has some great improvements)... and it gets worse when crucial apps don't work properly (USAA - can't use Deposit@Mobile, and that's soon going to push me to simply revert back to the last release of CM6, unless it gets fixed).

 

[MrX8503]

There is no iphone based on the a5, why bring it up? It's also been suggested that there won't be a new one until the fall, which really makes it moot to this discussion. Finally, you keep suggestng that Google should have a Nexus phone with these specs, and you cite Android development pace, but completely ignore that there have only been two Nexus phones. Google doesnt work that way, nor have they suggested that they do.

The phome you suggest doesnt exist anywhere, from anyone, so your indignant attitude suggesting there is no excuse for Googlw not to have one of their own seems seriously misplaced.

There isn't an A5 iPhone, but its news that we know now. We know nothing of the Nexus S being dual core.

There's only been two Nexus phones then, but IT IS an Android device. Since Android's inception I thought this was how we compared devices. Android vs iOS.

The phone I suggest doesn't exist anywhere, but the technology is there. There's nothing to stop Google from releasing such a device, Samsung is doing it with their Galaxy II, why can't google? The only thing with the Galaxy II line is that it doesn't run stock Android.

Considering Google isn't in it to sell phones, I can see why their Nexus line isn't the flagship for their Android OS. A shame really.

 

[foghorn67]

Not totally sure dual cores is a must have. Other than its 2011, and every top tier device should have it for the sake of feature lists.
My EVO running CM7 is one of the fastest devices I ever put my hands on. Mind you, I don't game much besides the tower defense games, angry birds and Scrabble clones. I think the NES ROM emulators are the only weird thing I do. And those run flawlessly.
Opening apps, multitasking, navigating screens and app drawers are no sweat.

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