Why does god hate christmas?

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IronWing

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Originally posted by: jersiq
Originally posted by: mugs
I guess the Bible should have mentioned that public gathering places should have doors that open outward. Fortunately our building codes have rectified that situation.

Yes, because religious buildings were the only ones that had doors that opened inwards.
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It goes make to the days when marauding bands of marauders roamed Europe raping, pillaging, and, yes, marauding. Churches had to be fortified against these evildoers (except for the evildoers who were actually doing God's Will in which case they weren't really evildoers but none the less had to be fortified against) and so doors had to be designed to open inward to prevent them from being easily sealed from the outside by the marauders (both the evildoing kind and the Arm of the Lord kind).
 

zinfamous

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Christmas and Thanksgiving. Some of the worst days to be working in a hospital.
 

krotchy

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Dude alot worse crap happens all year, what does this have to do with Christmas?
 

krotchy

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Christmas and Thanksgiving. Some of the worst days to be working in a hospital.

I hear halloween is the absolute worst in certain places
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Christmas and Thanksgiving. Some of the worst days to be working in a hospital.

OD...broken hip...heart attack...OD...broken hip...OD...heart attack...hellacious car wreck...OD... and skeletal staffing.
 

GenHoth

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Christmas and Thanksgiving. Some of the worst days to be working in a hospital.

OD...broken hip...heart attack...OD...broken hip...OD...heart attack...hellacious car wreck...OD... and skeletal staffing.

At least they wait till after the game on thanksgiving
 

jersiq

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: jersiq
Originally posted by: mugs
I guess the Bible should have mentioned that public gathering places should have doors that open outward. Fortunately our building codes have rectified that situation.

Yes, because religious buildings were the only ones that had doors that opened inwards.
:confused:

It goes make to the days when marauding bands of marauders roamed Europe raping, pillaging, and, yes, marauding. Churches had to be fortified against these evildoers (except for the evildoers who were actually doing God's Will in which case they weren't really evildoers but none the less had to be fortified against) and so doors had to be designed to open inward to prevent them from being easily sealed from the outside by the marauders (both the evildoing kind and the Arm of the Lord kind).

If you believe that inward opening doors came about because of the violent history of the Christian churches, you should go pick up a history book and gaze upon the myriad of inward opening doors from the civilizations BCE

Originally posted by: jonks
well he didn't say that, so you are knocking down a strawman, but lets play this one out a little. shouldn't god have protected his flock by telling them to build their places of worship with outward swinging doors? these other buildings you mentioned that also have inward swinging doors aren't gods holy houses of worship. heathens are supposed to burn in hell, but if you can get a head start here on earth, more power to em.

The quip attempted by mugs, at least my interpretation of it, was that Christians wouldn't know any better unless they were told to do it in the Bible. My point was that many agnostics and or atheists also built buildings with inward facing doors. In all my minor dabbling with religions, it didn't really matter where you practiced your faith, thus a church is a man-made construct, and not divine intervention.
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: mugs
I guess the Bible should have mentioned that public gathering places should have doors that open outward. Fortunately our building codes have rectified that situation.

They were too busy describing the dimensions of the door in cubits, in excruciating detail.
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: child of wonder
Originally posted by: Farang
The tsunami in Southeast Asia happened 00:58:53 UTC on December 26, 2004, which I think means it happened on Christmas in the U.S. About 225,000 dead.

I think sometimes God does things for the lulz.

Either that or he forgot the buoyancy of Asians so wanted to find out.

lol, there are better ways to find the volume of 200,000 Indonesians than water displacement.
 

FeuerFrei

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Not sure why there would be a Christmas hiatus for any misfortune happening on earth.


Originally posted by: Ramma2
Because we're celebrating it on the wrong day:


Astronomers have calculated that Christmas should be in June, by charting the appearance of the ?Christmas star? which the Bible says led the three Wise Men to Jesus.

They found that a bright star which appeared over Bethlehem 2,000 years ago pinpointed the date of Christ?s birth as June 17 rather than December 25.

The researchers claim the ?Christmas star? was most likely a magnificent conjunction of the planets Venus and Jupiter, which were so close together they would have shone unusually brightly as a single ?beacon of light? which appeared suddenly. If the team is correct, it would mean Jesus was a Gemini, not a Capricorn as previously believed.

Australian astronomer Dave Reneke used complex computer software to chart the exact positions of all celestial bodies and map the night sky as it would have appeared over the Holy Land more than 2,000 years ago.

It revealed a spectacular astronomical event around the time of Jesus?s birth.

Mr Reneke says the wise men probably interpreted it as the sign they had been waiting for, and they followed the ?star? to Christ?s birthplace in a stable in Bethlehem, as described in the Bible. Generally accepted research has placed the nativity to somewhere between 3BC and 1AD.

Using the St Matthew?s Gospel as a reference point, Mr Reneke pinpointed the planetary conjunction, which appeared in the constellation of Leo, to the exact date of June 17 in the year 2BC. The astronomy lecturer, who is also news editor of Sky and Space magazine, said: ?We have software that can recreate exactly the night sky as it was at any point in the last several thousand years.

?We used it to go back to the time when Jesus was born, according to the Bible. ?Venus and Jupiter became very close in the the year 2BC and they would have appeared to be one bright beacon of light. ?We are not saying this was definitely the Christmas star - but it is the strongest explanation for it of any I have seen so far.

?There?s no other explanation that so closely matches the facts we have from the time. ?This could well have been what the three wise men interpreted as a sign. They could easily have mistaken it for one bright star.

?Astronomy is such a precise science, we can plot exactly where the planets were, and it certainly seems this is the fabled Christmas star.? Mr Reneke, formerly the chief lecturer at the Port Macquarie Observatory in New South Wales, added: ?December is an arbitrary date we have accepted but it doesn?t really mean that is when it happened.

?This is not an attempt to decry religion. It?s really backing it up as it shows there really was a bright object appearing in the East at the right time. ?Often when we mix science with religion in this kind of forum, it can upset people. In this case, I think this could serve to reinforce people?s faith.?

Previous theories have speculated the star was a supernova - an exploding star - or even a comet. But Mr Reneke says by narrowing the date down, the technology has provided the most compelling explanation yet.
Thought I'd comment on this...

No Christmas not celebrated on the wrong date. But yes Jesus was probably born in September. This "star" mentioned above, no doubt appeared well in advance of Christ's birth in June, to allow the wisemen time to depart the Far East and make their way by camel (or whatever) to Bethlehem in Israel by late September. Of course you cannot follow a star to a specific town, so at some point some other light took over guidance, maybe an angel in the sky perhaps, so the shepherds could find Bethlehem and a stable. As described in the above quote, science can corroborate the appearance of a bright heavenly object signaling Jesus' impending birth.

Another reason backing a September birth is that the shepherds wouldn't have been in the fields tending the sheep on December 25th. IIRC, the flocks in that area were for stocking temple sacrifices that would have already taken place before Dec 25.

And finally, 'Christmas' means 'Christ sent'. Christ was no doubt conceived, or sent to earth in December ... 9 months before September. He could well have appeared in Mary's womb as a zygote/embryo around December 25. Which is what we celebrate; the day he arrived on earth. Not so much his birthdate.

So the date may very well be correct, but whole wise men/manger scene we associate with Christmas would not have taken place in December.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: krotchy
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Christmas and Thanksgiving. Some of the worst days to be working in a hospital.

I hear halloween is the absolute worst in certain places

eh, maybe in Detroit.

Family + alcohol = recipe for disaster. Never underestimate the loathing shared among strangely large numbers of families, and the desire for stabbing that the Holidays seem to bring about.

I imagine with the added stress due to the economy and recent election (great source of stress among politicly-divided families), this will be an especially busy week in the ERs around the country.