Why does god hate christmas?

jonks

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makes ya wonder

http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/20...19/death-at-christmas/

1. Family Discord.
Home was definitely not the place to be for the family of R. Gene Simmons of Dover, Arkansas in 1987. The clan was rapidly becoming estranged from the family patriarch. Even his favorite daughter, who had borne him a son, had run off and gotten married. It was time for revenge. As each contingent showed up at the dilapidated family mobile home to try to put a happy face on for the holiday, Simmons shot the adults and strangled the children. By Christmas Day, he'd wiped out almost three generations of Simmons, 14 all told. It was the worst family slaughter in American history.

But wait ? he wasn't done yet! For an encore a few days later, he went on a shooting rampage through a few former places of employment. He killed two people and injured four more before surrendering to police. He later became the first man executed by lethal injection in Arkansas.

2.The Season of Not Giving.
The holiday-fueled impulse to eradicate one's family isn't limited to the dysfunctional trailer park crowd. H. Sanford Williams was eminently respectable, having been an Army Chaplin, a Methodist Pastor, and finally the head of a charity, the National Retirement Foundation. Alas, the season of sharing had been a bust donation-wise and his foundation was in serious trouble. On Christmas Eve in 1957, the St. Petersburg, Florida man shot and killed his wife and two sons before turning the gun on himself.


3. Xmas Pageant Inferno.
It was the climax of the 1924 Christmas Eve pageant at the Babb's Switch, Oklahoma one-room schoolhouse. The last recitation had ended, the last carol faded. Now Santa himself was handing out bags of candy to all the children. But oh no! Santa brushed against the candle-lit tree. Within minutes, the room was a seething inferno, with 200 men, women, and children trying to force their way out the only exit: a door that opened inward. Thirty-four people died. But thanks to the heroic efforts of Santa and the schoolteacher (both of whom were themselves incinerated), only five children were among the dead.

4. The Deadly Christmas tree.
The substitution of incandescent lights for candles didn't eliminate the tendency of Christmas trees to turn into pyrotechnic yule logs. One of the deadliest of these modern-day holiday firebombs was Niles Street Hospital's 1945 tree. When a nurse unplugged the tree lights on Christmas Eve in the Hartford, Connecticut convalescent hospital, a spark ignited the dry needles. She grabbed a fire extinguisher, but panicked at the sight of the roaring flames and fled. Not only did she not even bother to call the fire department (neighbors, woken by the crackling flames, summoned them several minutes later), she left the front door open to properly ventilate the blaze. The building was completely gutted, and 15 patients and two staff died.

5. The Lethal Midnight Mass.
Christmas Eve midnight mass in Temoaya, Mexico in 1953 had just finished. Three thousand worshippers were peacefully filing out when someone tripped over the wrong wire. There was a bright blue flash, and then total darkness. All sense of peace and goodwill toward men vanished as the crowd transformed into a panic-stricken mob stampeding from the sanctuary. By the time the lights came on a few minutes later, 23 people were dead and over 200 injured.
 

SlowSpyder

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There have been lots of Christmas Days. You have a list of five bad events. I think God just hates this thread.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
shit happens ....

exactly, but both ways. when bad shit happens, its because, well, shit happens. but when good shit happens, that's also because, well, shit happens. but for some reason the big fella gets credit for the good shit and not blamed for the bad shit, when its all random shit. unless you eat lots of corn.

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
There have been lots of Christmas Days. You have a list of five bad events. I think God just hates this thread.

no, the link merely lists what in its opinion are the 5 worst. go pull up a police blotter for dec 25 every year and you'll find a few bazillion more, just like every other day of the year.
 

darkxshade

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
shit happens ....

exactly, but both ways. when bad shit happens, its because, well, shit happens. but when good shit happens, that's also because, well, shit happens. but for some reason the big fella gets credit for the good shit and not blamed for the bad shit, when its all random shit. unless you eat lots of corn.

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
There have been lots of Christmas Days. You have a list of five bad events. I think God just hates this thread.

no, the link merely lists what in its opinion are the 5 worst. go pull up a police blotter for dec 25 every year and you'll find a few bazillion more.


because when bad shit happens, it's the devils work :p
 

mugs

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I guess the Bible should have mentioned that public gathering places should have doors that open outward. Fortunately our building codes have rectified that situation.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: jonks
makes ya wonder

http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/20...19/death-at-christmas/

1. Family Discord.
Home was definitely not the place to be for the family of R. Gene Simmons of Dover, Arkansas in 1987. The clan was rapidly becoming estranged from the family patriarch. Even his favorite daughter, who had borne him a son, had run off and gotten married. It was time for revenge. As each contingent showed up at the dilapidated family mobile home to try to put a happy face on for the holiday, Simmons shot the adults and strangled the children. By Christmas Day, he'd wiped out almost three generations of Simmons, 14 all told. It was the worst family slaughter in American history.

But wait ? he wasn't done yet! For an encore a few days later, he went on a shooting rampage through a few former places of employment. He killed two people and injured four more before surrendering to police. He later became the first man executed by lethal injection in Arkansas.

2.The Season of Not Giving.
The holiday-fueled impulse to eradicate one's family isn't limited to the dysfunctional trailer park crowd. H. Sanford Williams was eminently respectable, having been an Army Chaplin, a Methodist Pastor, and finally the head of a charity, the National Retirement Foundation. Alas, the season of sharing had been a bust donation-wise and his foundation was in serious trouble. On Christmas Eve in 1957, the St. Petersburg, Florida man shot and killed his wife and two sons before turning the gun on himself.


3. Xmas Pageant Inferno.
It was the climax of the 1924 Christmas Eve pageant at the Babb's Switch, Oklahoma one-room schoolhouse. The last recitation had ended, the last carol faded. Now Santa himself was handing out bags of candy to all the children. But oh no! Santa brushed against the candle-lit tree. Within minutes, the room was a seething inferno, with 200 men, women, and children trying to force their way out the only exit: a door that opened inward. Thirty-four people died. But thanks to the heroic efforts of Santa and the schoolteacher (both of whom were themselves incinerated), only five children were among the dead.

4. The Deadly Christmas tree.
The substitution of incandescent lights for candles didn't eliminate the tendency of Christmas trees to turn into pyrotechnic yule logs. One of the deadliest of these modern-day holiday firebombs was Niles Street Hospital's 1945 tree. When a nurse unplugged the tree lights on Christmas Eve in the Hartford, Connecticut convalescent hospital, a spark ignited the dry needles. She grabbed a fire extinguisher, but panicked at the sight of the roaring flames and fled. Not only did she not even bother to call the fire department (neighbors, woken by the crackling flames, summoned them several minutes later), she left the front door open to properly ventilate the blaze. The building was completely gutted, and 15 patients and two staff died.

5. The Lethal Midnight Mass.
Christmas Eve midnight mass in Temoaya, Mexico in 1953 had just finished. Three thousand worshippers were peacefully filing out when someone tripped over the wrong wire. There was a bright blue flash, and then total darkness. All sense of peace and goodwill toward men vanished as the crowd transformed into a panic-stricken mob stampeding from the sanctuary. By the time the lights came on a few minutes later, 23 people were dead and over 200 injured.

Then there was the Christmas I got the iPod. I wanted the blue one, dammit.
 

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: jonks
makes ya wonder

Makes me wonder what? That bad shit happens EVERY DAY year round? That "bad shit" doesn't get the day off on Christmas? Or Easter? Or Arbor Day?
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: jonks
makes ya wonder

Makes me wonder what? That bad shit happens EVERY DAY year round? That "bad shit" doesn't get the day off on Christmas? Or Easter? Or Arbor Day?

That god would not reach out his benevolent hand to protect his flock from being roasted, shot, stabbed, stampeded, or otherwise dismembered in uncomfortable fashions, when they are merely going about piously celebrating His birthday. Just seems like an odd party favor is all.
 

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: jonks
makes ya wonder

Makes me wonder what? That bad shit happens EVERY DAY year round? That "bad shit" doesn't get the day off on Christmas? Or Easter? Or Arbor Day?

That god would not reach out his benevolent hand to protect his flock from being roasted, shot, stabbed, stampeded, or otherwise dismembered in uncomfortable fashions, when they are merely going about piously celebrating His birthday. Just seems like an odd party favor is all.

Yeah... then again, per most religions he gave us free-will.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: jonks
makes ya wonder

Makes me wonder what? That bad shit happens EVERY DAY year round? That "bad shit" doesn't get the day off on Christmas? Or Easter? Or Arbor Day?

That god would not reach out his benevolent hand to protect his flock from being roasted, shot, stabbed, stampeded, or otherwise dismembered in uncomfortable fashions, when they are merely going about piously celebrating His birthday. Just seems like an odd party favor is all.

Yeah... then again, per most religions he gave us free-will.

Exactly my point. Man is the cause of good and evil.
 

Jeff7

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5. The Lethal Midnight Mass.
Christmas Eve midnight mass in Temoaya, Mexico in 1953 had just finished. Three thousand worshippers were peacefully filing out when someone tripped over the wrong wire. There was a bright blue flash, and then total darkness. All sense of peace and goodwill toward men vanished as the crowd transformed into a panic-stricken mob stampeding from the sanctuary. By the time the lights came on a few minutes later, 23 people were dead and over 200 injured.
The lights go out and people immediately panic?

Are they no older than 5 years?


RUN!!! ZOMBIE JESUS IS COMING!!!


 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
5. The Lethal Midnight Mass.
Christmas Eve midnight mass in Temoaya, Mexico in 1953 had just finished. Three thousand worshippers were peacefully filing out when someone tripped over the wrong wire. There was a bright blue flash, and then total darkness. All sense of peace and goodwill toward men vanished as the crowd transformed into a panic-stricken mob stampeding from the sanctuary. By the time the lights came on a few minutes later, 23 people were dead and over 200 injured.
The lights go out and people immediately panic?

Are they no older than 5 years?

RUN!!! ZOMBIE JESUS IS COMING!!!

It doesn't tell the whole story. See, across the street Wal-mart had just put up its "Post-xmas 70% off storewide sale" sign. Only became visible after the lights went out in the church. So, rioting perfectly in keeping with tradition.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: jonks
makes ya wonder

Makes me wonder what? That bad shit happens EVERY DAY year round? That "bad shit" doesn't get the day off on Christmas? Or Easter? Or Arbor Day?

That god would not reach out his benevolent hand to protect his flock from being roasted, shot, stabbed, stampeded, or otherwise dismembered in uncomfortable fashions, when they are merely going about piously celebrating His birthday. Just seems like an odd party favor is all.

Yeah... then again, per most religions he gave us free-will.

That pathetic "free will" crap again? How sad. How utterly sad. Yes, the criminals have free will, but Per most religions he claims that he'll protect his flock. He doesn't. Deal with it and find a new excuse beyond "free will"
 

Farang

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The tsunami in Southeast Asia happened 00:58:53 UTC on December 26, 2004, which I think means it happened on Christmas in the U.S. About 225,000 dead.
 

child of wonder

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Originally posted by: Farang
The tsunami in Southeast Asia happened 00:58:53 UTC on December 26, 2004, which I think means it happened on Christmas in the U.S. About 225,000 dead.

I think sometimes God does things for the lulz.

Either that or he forgot the buoyancy of Asians so wanted to find out.
 

Ramma2

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Because we're celebrating it on the wrong day:


Astronomers have calculated that Christmas should be in June, by charting the appearance of the ?Christmas star? which the Bible says led the three Wise Men to Jesus.

They found that a bright star which appeared over Bethlehem 2,000 years ago pinpointed the date of Christ?s birth as June 17 rather than December 25.

The researchers claim the ?Christmas star? was most likely a magnificent conjunction of the planets Venus and Jupiter, which were so close together they would have shone unusually brightly as a single ?beacon of light? which appeared suddenly. If the team is correct, it would mean Jesus was a Gemini, not a Capricorn as previously believed.

Australian astronomer Dave Reneke used complex computer software to chart the exact positions of all celestial bodies and map the night sky as it would have appeared over the Holy Land more than 2,000 years ago.

It revealed a spectacular astronomical event around the time of Jesus?s birth.

Mr Reneke says the wise men probably interpreted it as the sign they had been waiting for, and they followed the ?star? to Christ?s birthplace in a stable in Bethlehem, as described in the Bible. Generally accepted research has placed the nativity to somewhere between 3BC and 1AD.

Using the St Matthew?s Gospel as a reference point, Mr Reneke pinpointed the planetary conjunction, which appeared in the constellation of Leo, to the exact date of June 17 in the year 2BC. The astronomy lecturer, who is also news editor of Sky and Space magazine, said: ?We have software that can recreate exactly the night sky as it was at any point in the last several thousand years.

?We used it to go back to the time when Jesus was born, according to the Bible. ?Venus and Jupiter became very close in the the year 2BC and they would have appeared to be one bright beacon of light. ?We are not saying this was definitely the Christmas star - but it is the strongest explanation for it of any I have seen so far.

?There?s no other explanation that so closely matches the facts we have from the time. ?This could well have been what the three wise men interpreted as a sign. They could easily have mistaken it for one bright star.

?Astronomy is such a precise science, we can plot exactly where the planets were, and it certainly seems this is the fabled Christmas star.? Mr Reneke, formerly the chief lecturer at the Port Macquarie Observatory in New South Wales, added: ?December is an arbitrary date we have accepted but it doesn?t really mean that is when it happened.

?This is not an attempt to decry religion. It?s really backing it up as it shows there really was a bright object appearing in the East at the right time. ?Often when we mix science with religion in this kind of forum, it can upset people. In this case, I think this could serve to reinforce people?s faith.?

Previous theories have speculated the star was a supernova - an exploding star - or even a comet. But Mr Reneke says by narrowing the date down, the technology has provided the most compelling explanation yet.

 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Then there was the Christmas I got the iPod. I wanted the blue one, dammit.

You have shaken my faith to the core.

 

jersiq

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Originally posted by: mugs
I guess the Bible should have mentioned that public gathering places should have doors that open outward. Fortunately our building codes have rectified that situation.

Yes, because religious buildings were the only ones that had doors that opened inwards.
:confused:
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: jersiq
Originally posted by: mugs
I guess the Bible should have mentioned that public gathering places should have doors that open outward. Fortunately our building codes have rectified that situation.

Yes, because religious buildings were the only ones that had doors that opened inwards.
:confused:

well he didn't say that, so you are knocking down a strawman, but lets play this one out a little. shouldn't god have protected his flock by telling them to build their places of worship with outward swinging doors? these other buildings you mentioned that also have inward swinging doors aren't gods holy houses of worship. heathens are supposed to burn in hell, but if you can get a head start here on earth, more power to em.