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Why does Fedora Linux take so many disk (iso)

junkerman123

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linux comes with more than just the os. it also has built in text and graphics editing programs (of equal or greater functionality than windows apps - the g.i.m.p. is pretty damn good, even compared to photoshop). plus linux comes with sweet GAMES :D
 

IamElectro

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My guess would be that the discs contain the source code for the apps as well as the RPMs.
 
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Originally posted by: junkerman123
linux comes with more than just the os. it also has built in text and graphics editing programs (of equal or greater functionality than windows apps - the g.i.m.p. is pretty damn good, even compared to photoshop). plus linux comes with sweet GAMES :D


Agreed.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: junkerman123
linux comes with more than just the os. it also has built in text and graphics editing programs (of equal or greater functionality than windows apps - the g.i.m.p. is pretty damn good, even compared to photoshop). plus linux comes with sweet GAMES :D

GIMP is NOTHING compared to photoshop. Most people will never ever use the full functionality of Photoshop because it's designed to handle editing much more powerful than cropping, resizing, and some lame filters.

GIMP does what most people need, but is *far* from comparable to the full power of photoshop.

Linux comes with SH|T games. Word editors (like KWrite, VI Edit, etc) are simple, not powerful. You can do quite a bit more with Word than you can with any Linux editor that I've ever seen -including OpenOffice.
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: Kensai
Originally posted by: junkerman123
linux comes with more than just the os. it also has built in text and graphics editing programs (of equal or greater functionality than windows apps - the g.i.m.p. is pretty damn good, even compared to photoshop). plus linux comes with sweet GAMES :D


Agreed.

Yep - it comes with a TON of stuff. Several browsers, full development environment & tools, full office suite, various servers - web, database, news, ftp, email, lots of gadgets, etc., etc. And if that's not enough you can get Fedora-Extras, which would probably add up to another disk or so. That's where I found a bunch of stuff that I use all the time, but waasn't in the core distro anymore (nedit, gnumeric off the top of my head)

You probably don't need alot of it, and can pick and choose during the install. I ussually just dump everything on so I can play with it - disk space is cheap :p
 

Adul

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Just the linux OS itself would be a lot smaller. But on those isos you get hundreds of applications from full fledged webserver(apache) to databses(mysql, postgresql), PHP, CGI, Graphics apps, irc programs, chat like gaim, browsers, gimp, kde, other desktops, and numerous other things. try installing it to see just how much is bundled :)
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Back when SuSE 8.1 was launched, it came on 1 DVD or 8 CDs. EIGHT CDs. There were, like, 3000 programs you could install from those CDs, but some of them were incompatible with others -in such a way that you could have one or the other installed, but not both. Yes, that's a LOT of choices, but without prior working experience with each individual program, you have no way of knowing how powerful it is or how well it will suit your needs.

Besides, all the games that come with Linux suck balls. I want my Doom 3, HL2, and similiar games to work right when they hit the shelves, not months or years down the line when someone releases a hacked up, half-compatible version for linux.

Don't get me wrong, Linux is great for running a server or workstation, but it's far from a gaming machine.
 

stephenw22

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Linux disks have lots more on them than you will probably install. The last time I installed linux on a computer, the ISOs had all kinds of extra utilities that aren't included with any Windows OS.

You'd have to spend thousands of $$ to buy the software you can get for free in a linux distro.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Adul
Just the linux OS itself would be a lot smaller. But on those isos you get hundreds of applications from full fledged webserver(apache) to databses(mysql, postgresql), PHP, CGI, Graphics apps, irc programs, chat like gaim, browsers, gimp, kde, other desktops, and numerous other things. try installing it to see just how much is bundled :)

lol apache is all of a 2.4MB.
php is 5.7MB

all the crap you listed is virtually next-to-nothing as far as file size is concerned (pre-unpacking for installation).
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: stephenw22
Linux disks have lots more on them than you will probably install. The last time I installed linux on a computer, the ISOs had all kinds of extra utilities that aren't included with any Windows OS.

You'd have to spend thousands of $$ to buy the software you can get for free in a linux distro.

Yet you'll have software that is *FAR* more powerful than the crummy half-assed versions that come with linux distros. --that is, if you can't find a free WIN32 verson on the net anyway.

Fail!
 

stephenw22

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: stephenw22
Linux disks have lots more on them than you will probably install. The last time I installed linux on a computer, the ISOs had all kinds of extra utilities that aren't included with any Windows OS.

You'd have to spend thousands of $$ to buy the software you can get for free in a linux distro.

Yet you'll have software that is *FAR* more powerful than the crummy half-assed versions that come with linux distros. --that is, if you can't find a free WIN32 verson on the net anyway.

Fail!

What percentage of generic consumers use all of the "*FAR* more powerful" features of commercial software? 5%? 10%?

If you want specific, powerful features, then you can usually find them in commercial software.

Even though linux isn't good for gaming, the # of people who use their PCs for gaming is TINY compared to the total # of PCs.

For a generic PC setup (internet, word processing / office functionality) then linux is a super-easy platform to run, and getting easier all the time.

BTW, there are some awesome games for linux. I wasted many hours in linux labs during school playing XPilot and Tetrinet. (I have them on my windows boxes as well)
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Okay, so if you're not looking for commercial versions, you can almost always find a free version on the net that will get the job done. Oh boo hoo that software didn't come on my windows installation CD! EVIL WINDOWS! DOWN WITH MICROSOFT!

Sound familiar? *cough*NETSCAPE*cough*

In the long run, if it's basic software, it doesn't matter whether it comes on the installation media or not. You can grab it or something to do the job off the web. If it's enterprise software, unless you're talking about server-side software, you're most likely going to be buying the WIN32 version.
 

Freejack2

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Windows XP - 1 disk
Office - 1 disk
Compiler program - 1 disk
Driver disks - 11tybillion

Centos/Fedora/and similar, open office, compilers, drivers, etc - 4 cd's or 1 dvd.

Linux may have it's faults but inluding everything on 4 cd's is something I would consider good and not a fault.