Why does everyone think Iraq must only comply with the UN?

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Grasshopper27

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I've seen several people post that Iraq needs only make the majority of the UN happy to get out of this current mess.

That is not correct.

Iraq must make both the UN and the US happy, or it doesn't count.

The answer to the question of "Why?" is simple...

Those 200,000 troops out in the desert are not from the UN. It isn't going to be the UN that attacks in a few weeks if the US isn't happy with Iraq.

It is the United States that Iraq needs to concern themself with making happy. They seem to have succeeded at making the UN happy enough, but again, that isn't enough...

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Originally posted by: her209
So what will make the US happy?
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If Iraq completely and totally complies with all her obligations.

It is up to Iraq to convince the United States that it really has gotten rid of all its WMD. The lack of proof is not enough, Iraq will have to come up with something a lot more impressive than they have so far to prevent a war.

The ball is completely in Iraq's court right now...

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This AMAZING new information deserved its own thread.
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The U.N. waged war against Iraq in '91, not the U.S. IMO, had only America invaded Iraq would answer solely to the U.S. Of course had only America invaded in '91, Stormin' Norman would have gone to Baghdad and Western Oil Companies would already be....helping the Iraqis process their crude.

That said it's quite easy to appease the U.N. All you have to do is tell them you're doing what they ask and that bloated bureacracy is more than happy to ignore you.
 
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US , what is best in life? To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
 
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Originally posted by: JellyBaby
The U.N. waged war against Iraq in '91, not the U.S. IMO, had only America invaded Iraq would answer solely to the U.S.
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That's true, which is why now Iraq must answer to both the UN and the US.

Just making the UN happy isn't enough, mostly because it isn't the UN that has the largest military delopyed in the Middle East right now.

That is a pratical point that should not be overlooked.

That said it's quite easy to appease the U.N. All you have to do is tell them you're doing what they ask and that bloated bureacracy is more than happy to ignore you.
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Agreed, which is why the UN has become more and more useless over the years.

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Just making the UN happy isn't enough, mostly because it isn't the UN that has the largest military delopyed in the Middle East right now.
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Then why is Bush trying so hard to get/buy/force so many nations to aggree to invade Iraq? Future political favor and the pretense of legitimacy. Go in alone and you lose both and the polls tell him he'll lose support at home. Politicians are pragmatists.
 
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Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: nick1985
because we have a lot of democrats in our country
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damn those dirty hippies with their freedom
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and there pasifist tree hugging ways
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all they do is smoke pot
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and participate in nude anti-war protests
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they are all anti-americans who should move and go live in iraq with their friend saddam

 
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Originally posted by: JellyBaby
Just making the UN happy isn't enough, mostly because it isn't the UN that has the largest military delopyed in the Middle East right now.
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Then why is Bush trying so hard to get/buy/force so many nations to aggree to invade Iraq? Future political favor and the pretense of legitimacy. Go in alone and you lose both and the polls tell him he'll lose support at home. Politicians are pragmatists.
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Yes, they are... Bush is trying his best to get the rest of the world on his team, but he's prepared to go it alone if he has to.

You do not deploy 1/4 of your military overseas for war and then not actually have the war unless someone gives you a darn good reason.

Saddam needs to provide that darn good reason, and soon. His time is running out.

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Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
I am in the process of drawing up my own list of demands that must be met by the Iraqis to avoid war.
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Does it include, Saddam putting a bag over his head?
 
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Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
I am in the process of drawing up my own list of demands that must be met by the Iraqis to avoid war.
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Fair enough... Just deploy 200,000 soldiers to the Middle East with the ability to invade Iraq and you can do so.

:D

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Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
I am in the process of drawing up my own list of demands that must be met by the Iraqis to avoid war.
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Fair enough... Just deploy 200,000 soldiers to the Middle East with the ability to invade Iraq and you can do so.

:D

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Doesnt that pretty much give N Korea a blank check to attack whomever it wants then?
 
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Originally posted by: HendrixFan
Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
I am in the process of drawing up my own list of demands that must be met by the Iraqis to avoid war.
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Fair enough... Just deploy 200,000 soldiers to the Middle East with the ability to invade Iraq and you can do so.

:D

Hopper
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Doesnt that pretty much give N Korea a blank check to attack whomever it wants then?
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No, because North Korea lacks the ability to deploy them anywhere other than to South Korea.

They of course can attack South Korea, but we might have something to say about it then.

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Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Originally posted by: HendrixFan
Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
I am in the process of drawing up my own list of demands that must be met by the Iraqis to avoid war.
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Fair enough... Just deploy 200,000 soldiers to the Middle East with the ability to invade Iraq and you can do so.

:D

Hopper
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Doesnt that pretty much give N Korea a blank check to attack whomever it wants then?
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No, because North Korea lacks the ability to deploy them anywhere other than to South Korea.

They of course can attack South Korea, but we might have something to say about it then.

Hopper
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If N Korea could only threaten S Korea, I would feel much better about today's international climate.

 
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