Why does Dr. King get a national holiday?

[Anarchist420]

Now I understand why the OP likes Ron Paul. He just doesn't get it. Ron Paul apparently just doesn't get it either.

I think that Dr. Paul, myself, and the rest of his supporters understand a lot more than most people

 

[cybrsage]

He advocated a non-violent protest style...and managed to convince most people his way was right. He was also successful, so he deserves a holiday in his honor.

 

[palehorse]

From my perspective I would have to say that while I disagree with most of what the OP believes he doesn't go about saying things as if Zeus gave him free license to thunderbolt the internet. I allow considerable leeway to the opinions of those I do not accept if they can do so without formulating their responses in an adversarial way at least initially.

YMMV

IMO, the OP embodies everything that is wrong with our young people today. I lost all respect for him the day he admitted to being a 20-something college graduate who still lives at home and refuses to try to find a job, even part-time, because his parents are able to support him -- and therefore "should" continue to support him -- for as long as he wants them to. He also refuses to drive because his parents will give him "only $5000" for a used car, and that's just not good enough for him.

Seriously, gawd help us...

 

[CrackRabbit]

From my perspective I would have to say that while I disagree with most of what the OP believes he doesn't go about saying things as if Zeus gave him free license to thunderbolt the internet. I allow considerable leeway to the opinions of those I do not accept if they can do so without formulating their responses in an adversarial way at least initially.

YMMV

There is a difference between disagreeing with someone over a political topic, and outright rejecting their argument because it has no basis in reality.
90+% of Anarchists posts fall into the latter category.

 

[Tom]

Well, you have a point about Jim Crow (where the States forced segregation upon private property owners), but Dr. King advocated federal intervention.

so ? what kind of anarchist are you if you favor state's rights ? Why is that entity entitled to interfere with individuals ?

not to mention, why do you even post ? if you think individuals aren't supposed to be governed, what is the point of sharing your opinion ? Everyone's supposed to do what they want, not listen to each other..

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

There is a difference between disagreeing with someone over a political topic, and outright rejecting their argument because it has no basis in reality.
90+% of Anarchists posts fall into the latter category.

I don't think I've indicated an acceptance of his ideas. My point is a personal one and that it easier for me to make a constructive comment if the OP doesn't attempt to distract me with angry emotional content. Not a whole lot to read into it. I guess different people can shrug off different things.

 

[CrackRabbit]

I don't think I've indicated an acceptance of his ideas. My point is a personal one and that it easier for me to make a constructive comment if the OP doesn't attempt to distract me with angry emotional content. Not a whole lot to read into it. I guess different people can shrug off different things.

I agree with you.
But what I am trying to get at is there isn't a point to making a constructive comment in an Anarchist thread, unless it is at someone other than him.
I consider Anarchist a fool who could use some time in a remedial high school history and government class, and little more.
The point of a fool is to have others laugh at him though, so that is what I tend to do.

 

[Anarchist420]

so ? what kind of anarchist are you if you favor state's rights ? Why is that entity entitled to interfere with individuals ?

not to mention, why do you even post ? if you think individuals aren't supposed to be governed, what is the point of sharing your opinion ? Everyone's supposed to do what they want, not listen to each other..

I never said you or anyone else had to listen to me

I'm an anarcho capitalist/anarcho-individualist and the 14th Amendment is statist (most anarcho-capitalists would rather have states' rights than centralization of power). I never said that the States are entitled to interfere with individuals, but it's even worse to have the Federal government enforce peoples' rights. Anarchists want as many sovereigns as possible preferrably every individual a sovereign. If there is only one sovereign (whether it's a world republic or a world monarchy) over 7 billion people subjects, then there will absolutely be tyranny.

 

[bfdd]

Because he was a leader of the Civil Rights Movement. You know, that thing that got people actual rights besides just the right to be fucked by those more powerful than themselves, like you anarcho-libertarians are obsessed with.

Most of you guys who bitch fuck yourselves more than anyone else could ever fuck you. You bitch about environmental issues, but have no problem shipping them over seas to China instead of getting the clean up and control right here. Fuck that, just regulate it the hell away. How about slave wages? You bitch about your low American wages, yet you support the Government and companies which propagate even lower wages for others. You are the one who wants to shit on others and fuck people, you just don't want to do it personally, but through proxies. I might not like anarchists, but at least they're not pussy enough to want a proxy to fight their war for them.

 

[HomerJS]

The one thing the OP has demonstrated is the ineptitude of his school district and their history ciriculum.

Either that or he lived in one of those school districts where they purchased history books that tought MLK was nothing but an uppity troublemaker.

 

[CitizenKain]

The one thing the OP has demonstrated is the ineptitude of his school district and their history ciriculum.

Either that or he lived in one of those school districts where they purchased history books that tought MLK was nothing but an uppity troublemaker.

Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia and Mississippi all celebrate Robert E Lee day. Also known as Dog-whistle Racism day.

 

[Anarchist420]

The one thing the OP has demonstrated is the ineptitude of his school district and their history ciriculum.

Either that or he lived in one of those school districts where they purchased history books that tought MLK was nothing but an uppity troublemaker.

Actually, I don't recall doing modern history in High School which was so long ago. You just have one and half year of history in high school where I live. There is a year of geography, then history for 3 semesters and government for 3 semesters.

At my high school we were taught that Dr. King was perfect.

 

[Rainsford]

I never said you or anyone else had to listen to me

I'm an anarcho capitalist/anarcho-individualist and the 14th Amendment is statist (most anarcho-capitalists would rather have states' rights than centralization of power). I never said that the States are entitled to interfere with individuals, but it's even worse to have the Federal government enforce peoples' rights. Anarchists want as many sovereigns as possible preferrably every individual a sovereign. If there is only one sovereign (whether it's a world republic or a world monarchy) over 7 billion people subjects, then there will absolutely be tyranny.

It's a unique idea, but in the real world, that kind of environment produces Somalia, and MLK's ideas produce greatly increased civil liberties for millions of people.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Are we talking about Martin Luther King here

 

[cybrsage]

Yes, the dead civil rights activist who convinced a lot of angry people that peaceful resistence was the correct solution.

 

[BoT]

On behalf of all of AT I am here to award the OP, Captain Arizona, with the facepalm award.

well deserved achievement :thumbsup:

 

[randomrogue]

nvm read the question wrong.

 

[blankslate]

I think that Dr. Paul, myself, and the rest of his supporters understand a lot more than most people

It depends on the subject at hand... here's a hint. It definitely is not this subject.

He was the leader of a movement that greatly improved the lives of a large number of people who were discriminated on the sole basis of the color of their skin. He and his followers did so by following the principle of nonviolent civil disobedience while having firehoses and dogs unleashed on them. If you don't see how that deserves respect you're just missing something in a big way.

I know the utopian argument about how if a business owner discriminates he will lose customers to business owners who don't discriminate. Too bad utopian ideas tend not to pan out in the real world.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Yes, the dead civil rights activist who convinced a lot of angry people that peaceful resistence was the correct solution.

Nobel Prize winner, one of the principal leaders of the American civil rights movement and a prominent advocate of nonviolent protest.
What is the OP's question again?

 

[sportage]

Why does Dr. King get a national holiday?

Actually, more so the American invisible holiday. That day you realize something is up only after the mailman doesn’t show. When you discover the bank was closed because your deposit never posted as expected. There are no special decorative trees, no special lights, no special food, no family dinners, no funny hats, no special colored clothing. And no parades. And if it were up to South Carolina (or Newt), it surely would not be a holiday in any form.

If MLK is going to be a "real" holiday, make it a real holiday. Put up lights, have family dinners, hide presents for the kids, adopt a cute little furry animal as the holiday mascot.

And white people in the news media... quit pretending you really give a ****

 

[NoStateofMind]

He advocated redistribution of wealth and he advocated the Civil Rights Act of 1964, so I don't get why he's so popular. People can get locked up if they refuse to follow a Federal quota system or if they refuse to serve people they may not want to serve.

I don't dislike him, as he spoke out against the Vietnam war and was a good man, but why do so many people hold him in such high regard?

My point is, is that if you're not an anarcho-capitalist, then you advocate aggression.

Wait. You are asking why there is a holiday for one of most influential people in history? Are you serious? I'm befuddled and don't know what else to say.....

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Wait. You are asking why there is a holiday for one of most influential people in history? Are you serious? I'm befuddled and don't know what else to say.....

That's what I was thinking

 

[Capt Caveman]

And I thought the OP couldn't post anything more stupid than his previous posts. I was wrong. Seriously, I understand why you have no friends and live at home with your parents with no job. You have zero clue about the world.

Again, why aren't you spending all of your time campaigning locally for Ron Paul?

 

[piasabird]

Most politicians support programs like SS and Medicaid, however, we usually dont call them socialists for this. Right now it is SS and Medicaid that is bankrupting our country. There will come a day when we are forced to scale back in some of these areas of social welfare. Keeping it going is impossible without reducing benefits and limiting who receives it. It is bankrupting us.

You have been warned.

 

[hal2kilo]

Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia and Mississippi all celebrate Robert E Lee day. Also known as Dog-whistle Racism day.

Wow, at least Virginia dropped it when I was a kid living there. Won't live any further south than Northern Virginia ever again.