Destiny
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Really? I paid $134.99 for mines at Microcenter on 3-24-2012... and that was without the Mobo combo...
I did my research and I would've been happy if I got the i5-2500k instead of the i5-2550k... but MC didn't have the mobo I wanted with the i5-2500k combo deal so I went with the i5-2550k instead...
Most people that buy the i5-2500k are gamers that will get a descrete card anyways...
Plus Mr. Kenmitch has been doing crazy stuff with the i5-2550k that says otherwise that it is "broken."
If youre calling me stupid than riddle me this.
If it performs fine for what i need it for, AND is guarenteed stable, plus its lifespan is exactly as it should be, how are you "smart" for degrading your chip faster?
You dont need to overclock, whatever i do is my buisness.
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Ive bought cars that have cost more than the difference........youre point is? You get less for MORE.
Leyawiin
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My point is its a trivial amount to worry about. If you want to split hairs over $10 you could have bought an i5-2500 instead of an i5-2500K. That's exactly the difference at most retail spots between the 2500 and 2550. Since you have no plans to OC it you might as well have saved the money. One could start a thread titled "Why does ANYONE buy the 2500K...and not OC it".
I don't understand why the hate for the 2550k. I'm bang for buck so I went for the 2550k deal at microcenter as I needed an xtra cpu to test out a MB I got back from rma. Turns out it's a great overclocker so it booted my 2700k out of my sytem. I don't like the way hyper-threading makes a rig feel.
The 2550k is no more a broken 2500k than a 2500k is a broken 2600k. I don't know what all the fuss is about. The integrated graphics suck anyways!
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Leyawiin
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Care to share what these problems are? In all the years I've been assembling PCs I've never had an issue where I've needed IGP. If I should ever bork a GPU BIOS update I have an old PCI card, if a GPU ever dies I have an old PCI-E spare to test with. Sure it would be nice not to have to crack the case, but I don't see how that equates to "2550k sucks". Maybe "2550k not quite as useful under rare certain circumstances".
Maximilian
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Well you named some for me already
- Needing an old POS PCI card to fix your GPU BIOS
- Needing a backup PCI-E card if your discrete card dies
2550k sucks IGPU is extremely useful. Not to mention all the other jazz it does like quicksync etc.
bryanW1995
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bryanW1995
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I bought the insurance for my chip. I figure when I'm ready to move on I'll just push the overclock till she tops then pops! I'll walk away with some screenshots and a fresh one from intel which I'll sell and be on my way
You better hope that intelenthusiast Christian Wood doesn't take a screenshot of this post...
bryanW1995
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In the MC deal, the 2550k is cheaper than the 2500k.
This is opposite the rest of the retail world, so you are paying more for something that has a significant portion of the chip disabled.
For example, newegg 2500k = $220 and 2550k = $230.
I do not think that people would have an issue if the whole retail world worked like MC is pricing the 2500k / 2550k in their current sale (2550k significantly cheaper than 2500k).
You better hope that intelenthusiast Christian Wood doesn't take a screenshot of this post...
Why would he bother to. If you look at the terms of the warranty they pretty much state that it's covered when run out of spec if it fails when it's overclocked.
My chips pretty strong! I would never just juice it up to kill it. 55x bootable chips are kinda hard to find. I've seen more vcore pumped to get to 50x than I tested at 5.5ghz during my little adventure.
If I decide to push my chip it'll be more in the lines of bumping it up a little at a time to see what it's true max overclocking speed is. Every chip will have the wall....Just not sure if mine is 5546.95MHz or not currently as I was kinda shocked my defective chip was able to do it
Hyper threading makes a rig feel different? I wouldn't know since I haven't used i7 processors that much.
Kinda hard to explain but I could feel it at times. To me it kinda felt like what people describe micro stutter as. Depending on what I was doing and where windows decided to throw the threads I guess is what caused it. Without hyper-threading enabled I didn't notice it. I only dabbled with hyper-threading for a about a month or two as I got a great deal on a 2700k so I thought I'd see what the fuss was about. Think for the most part it's over rated. Depending a on a person use tho it may be of benefit to fair also. Just for me it wasn't a good thing
Definitely does on my i3 with HT on vs. off. But 2C2T vs. 2C4T is a little different situation than 4C4T vs. 4C8T.
Even if so, it's hard to justify a 50% price premium unless you're going to be using the CPU regularly in something that takes significant advantage of more than 4 cores.
tweakboy
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Its for people that don't need those extra 4 threads. For people that aren't into production and using HT app.
If you use Premiere or Vegas or Sonar X1d ,,, heavy PS,, then you need the 2600k because these apps are HT 64 bit apps
So ya grab the 2500k unless you do any of the above or use any of the above. gl
If you use Premiere or Vegas or Sonar X1d ,,, heavy PS,, then you need the 2600k because these apps are HT 64 bit apps
So ya grab the 2500k unless you do any of the above or use any of the above. gl
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LOL_Wut_Axel
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That is true, but most people in this situation wait to upgrade until they absolutely have to. For example, working in retail I knew some people running Pentium Dual-Cores (E21xx) and Core 2 Duos (E4xxx) that were complaining about performance for example in multi-tasking, video encoding, and/or gaming. Most of them also had 1 or 2GB of RAM. They were in need of RAM and CPU upgrades. So really, is it worth it to recommend to them to throw money at a sinking ship with older, more expensive components (DDR2 RAM in particular) and getting a Core 2 Quad? For the money they're spending they can just get a new platform that has more features and is much more power efficient. For the money you can get 4 or 8GB of DDR2 RAM and a used or refurbished Core 2 Quad you can get the same amount of newer DDR3 RAM and a Core i3 along with an H61 motherboard.
LOL_Wut_Axel
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You don't really understand how this works. Hyper-Threading is not something that can be broken during manufacturing.
The difference between the 2600(K) and 2500(K) is that 2MB of L3 cache, which may or may not be defective in the die, are disabled on the 2500(K). There's also the Hyper-Threading, which gives you roughly 20% more performance than not having it in heavily multi-threaded programs, but is not a part that can be damaged when manufacturing. It's disabled for product differentiation by microcode. It's basically a way for Intel to get $100 extra for something that was originally working and didn't need to be disabled in the first place.
And even if the 2550K clocks better, the 2700K or 2600K for that matter are still superior: they feature fully enabled dies and have significantly superior multi-threaded performance. If you were gonna use it only for gaming anyway, why would you get a 2600K/2700K over a 2500k/2550K anyway?
Like I said before, the 2550K is more "broken" than the 2500K, or 2600K. The IGP is disabled by microcode, which means you're not getting any better power consumption or lower temperatures or heat. The 2550K is simply a 2500K with a defective IGP, and in terms of overclocking you're still playing silicon lottery. Even though the 2550K and 2700K are clocked 100MHz higher than the 2500K and 2600K, on average their overclocks are dead even because there's no binning going on.
Also, what you're saying about how Hyper-Threading makes a system "feel" is a placebo effect and therefore false. If anything, Hyper-Threading makes a system feel faster because of additional compute resources when multi-tasking, especially if you're multi-tasking between compute-intensive programs. Use a laptop with a SB Pentium and compare to one with a SB Core i3 or Core i5 and then tell me HT makes it "feel" slower.
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Well, why would you buy a ferrari if the speed limit is 65? A civic will do that nicely, its because its nice to know i can if i had to. The 2550K costss more and has less, how can you not comprehend that?
Plus, i dont understand your fascination with me not overclocking. I dont HAVE to but i could if i wanted, the 2550K doesnt have an IGP enabled so you CANT use it if you wanted. big difference. Paultry sum or not its still less for more.
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LOL_Wut_Axel
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Kinda hard to explain but I could feel it at times. To me it kinda felt like what people describe micro stutter as. Depending on what I was doing and where windows decided to throw the threads I guess is what caused it. Without hyper-threading enabled I didn't notice it. I only dabbled with hyper-threading for a about a month or two as I got a great deal on a 2700k so I thought I'd see what the fuss was about. Think for the most part it's over rated. Depending a on a person use tho it may be of benefit to fair also. Just for me it wasn't a good thing
Hyper-Threading does have a benefit, and a very big one in many programs. What you "felt" is a good example of the placebo effect at work. There's no such thing as "micro-stutter" having HT on. All HT does is make more efficient use of the processor's pipeline, giving higher performance.
If all you do is gaming then you go for the 2500K or 2550K, but to say they're in any way better than the 2600K or 2700K is completely disingenuous.
Encoding media on the IGP while gaming/sleeping. It uses teh CPU fan to cool it, so it wont generate any extra noise.
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