Googer,
GY is right. You attack on a personal level, so even when you're right... it doesn't matter. Because people see you as such a bitter grinch that they don't want to even want to hear what you have to say. Sad really, because I really do feel you sometimes have something to offer.
Originally posted by: Googer
d)Removable Cables are a major failure point.
e)When a cable works it's self loose it can be havoc for your system.
You are correct. ANY "cut" in a wire is going to add resistance. That's a given. But if the connection is a solid one, then the resistance is negligible. Like GY said, you have to be mindful of the modular interfaces and make sure that the connections are good. But that also goes for most any power supply. How many PC's have you worked on where there's a burn mark on one of the connectors on the main ATX power connector? I know I've worked on quite a few, and the cause is a wire tip not making that perfect contact with the inteface.
Originally posted by: Googer
I guess that you have never owned a car with an electrial problem? Cars are inanimate objects with dozens of miles of wire and when one connection fails or becomes weak, funny things will being to happen. Like lights that flicker, engines that stall (happend to me), radios that dont work, etc.
Well cars move and have vibrations... but that's not to take anything away from your post. Cables in a PC can really come loose for the same reason. Bumping the case, vibrations, etc. Heck, I even use hot glue on my SATA cables!
But it's like the gold:tin argument. Gold contact on the PSU, tin on the board. Or gold on the RAM contacts, tin in the memory slots. The two metals are so dissimilar that they promote corrosion. But when does that corrosion occur? If the PC is kept near the ocean for 10 years, that's when. Yet because "in science" you can prove that gold:tin corrodes faster than tin:tin, IBM can get sued for selling machines with memory modules with gold contacts and motherboards with tin. Go figure.
It's all in how much you want to hype the scare tactics. I believe Mr. Dodson said it best when he said, "The voltage drop can be as much as would occur in 2 feet of standard wire." Buy yourself 2' of wire, put about 100W through it and measure the voltage and resistance at each end. Sound scary until you check it out for yourself. Not saying that Dodson's wrong. He's a very wise man, relabels and resells and exceleent product... and is very good at marketing.
Originally posted by: Googer
The more some people open their mouth the more they prove to the rest of us that they are rather ignorant.
You see my sig? That's because before I got this job I thought me, my CompTIA A+ and Linux+, my MCSE and CNE made me the sh!t. But then I got the load testers, the O-scope, etc. and started learning more about PSU's. And then, after time, I started to meet REALL EE's that build this stuff for a living, the mass quantities of product that flow through the channel, the amount of time and money that goes into R&D and QC... and I'm not just talking about people at Ultra, but at Silverstone and Thermaltake and Acbel and Seventeam and Andyson... then I learned a new level of humility and began to LEARN. You should try it sometime.
Originally posted by: Googer
The general concensus among most knowledgeable PC enthusiests is that ULTRA is junk but you seem to think other wise. Odds of probability are that you do not work for them but it just seems suspect.
GY doesn't work for Ultra. I just showed him some of the stuff I've been working with them on. Again, you've tainted anything valuable you have to add with an arrogance that is so disgusting it negates anything of worth you have to say.
Actually, the "general concensus" don't think Ultra is "junk." A good deal of them feel they offer a good and good looking product that can give them years of service. Others do not, and I'm sure you'll help that number grow.
Again, you make a blanket statement about an entire company because it reflects your
opinion about one product and it suits your agenda.
But I digress, I'm not here as part of any "marketing team" or PR. I saw the subject and chose to throw in my two cents from what I know as fact. Call it a shill post if you want... doesn't bother me. Matter of fact, if you read my post, you'll see that I actually accused the manufacturer of horrible QC that will take years to overcome... because it's the honest and responsible thing to do. I didn't come into this thread to put Ultra on a pedestal. There's a lot better product out there.. and better for the money if you don't want to pay for a "titanium" (I hate that reference) finish and modular connecitons. And that's what's really funny Googer... and why people will be willing to listen to what I have to say and not what you have to say, because I can be level handed and tell it like it is... while you're full of venom and spite.
But whatever... I can sleep at night knowing you probably didn't even read any of it anyways.
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