Why do you build houses out of wood?

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DougK62

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Wait...OP are you saying that the skeleton of the house is made of brick? I find that hard to believe. I'd bet that your houses are made of wood too, just with a brick facade like ours are. A brick facade looks pretty, but it isn't structurally significant. Wood construction with vinyl siding is just the best way to build homes from a cost, convenience, and performance view.

 

waggy

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Vinyl siding is too noisy.

we have vinyl. i don't hear anything from it.


Wait...OP are you saying that the skeleton of the house is made of brick? I find that hard to believe. I'd bet that your houses are made of wood too, just with a brick facade like ours are. A brick facade looks pretty, but it isn't structurally significant. Wood construction with vinyl siding is just the best way to build homes from a cost, convenience, and performance view.

whats so hard to beleive? used to be many houses were made of brick. in many places it still is.

its really not hard to believe.
 

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Vinyl siding is too noisy.

Vinly not so much. Now aluminum on the other hand...can be downright obnoxious in heavy rains and sleet/hail.
 

imported_Imp

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Hmmm... I just finished a civil engineering degree. They taught me how to build and design with steel, concrete and wood. Nothing with masonry block wall or brick, but I'm not sure if those are even dependable/useful for primary load bearing applications. The lack of joints and tensile reinforcement is just asking to be raped when there's an earthquake or if winds are too high. If it's just the facade, no problem for people inside.
 

seemingly random

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The vinyl noise I was referring to is the expansion and contraction on hot summer days. I've never lived in a house with vinyl but have been on a deck outside of a vinyl clad house that was actually noisy.
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: DougK62
Wait...OP are you saying that the skeleton of the house is made of brick? I find that hard to believe. I'd bet that your houses are made of wood too, just with a brick facade like ours are. A brick facade looks pretty, but it isn't structurally significant. Wood construction with vinyl siding is just the best way to build homes from a cost, convenience, and performance view.

If a tree falls on a brick house, it's not going to do much. Vinyl on the other hand...

Thing is now they have these faux-brick abominations where the front is brick and the other sides are all vinyl/aluminum/shit to cut costs. Just looks fake when you look at the house from any angle other than straight on. :roll:

You can pimp out a '93 corolla all you want, but in the end you're still driving a '93 corolla...
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
uhhh...

well, in california, you cant build brick buildings because of earthquake codes

exactly
if you go to Chicago, there are tons of houses with bricks
also, many people think that bricks are ugly (such as me)
 

soonerproud

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Originally posted by: BradAtWork
Hi Americans.

If i'm generalising please correct me, but from TV/Films it appears most of your free standing homes are made of wood?

Why is this. Can most people not afford to build out of brick?

Where I come from (Australia) only older/low cost homes were built from wood.

Brick homes last longer and I imagine would maintain temperature better.

Is it just the abudance of cheap wood you have in the states, or is it just tradition or whatever.

Just curious.

In this part of the country, most newer homes are made of brick. It is a regional thing that depends on a number of environmental and economic factors.

In California, Arizona and many of the southwest states, homes are made of stucco. In New Mexico, parts of Arizona and Texas, it is a combination of Adobe brick, stucco and brick.
 

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
The vinyl noise I was referring to is the expansion and contraction on hot summer days. I've never lived in a house with vinyl but have been on a deck outside of a vinyl clad house that was actually noisy.

Weird. I've never experienced that with the vinyl siding I had on a previous home. I was there for about 5 years and we had some days that were in the high 90's if not triple digits.
 

BoomerD

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If you tear the brick off of those houses, you'll find "stick construction" underneath them.

Sure, some older houses were just built of brick with lath & plaster for interior walls, but they're the exception, not the rule.

Many places in fact, forbid the building of pure unreinforced masonry walls due to safety standards.
 

soonerproud

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
In New England, you'll find a number of 200+ year old wood-framed homes.

I have seen a few houses over 200 years old in New England that were wood framed.
 

IEC

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Originally posted by: CPA
In Texas, homes are made with wood but a brick veneer and/or hardiplank (concrete siding product) is added to the outside.

And it works very well :)
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: soonerproud
Originally posted by: BradAtWork
Hi Americans.

If i'm generalising please correct me, but from TV/Films it appears most of your free standing homes are made of wood?

Why is this. Can most people not afford to build out of brick?

Where I come from (Australia) only older/low cost homes were built from wood.

Brick homes last longer and I imagine would maintain temperature better.

Is it just the abudance of cheap wood you have in the states, or is it just tradition or whatever.

Just curious.

In this part of the country, most newer homes are made of brick. It is a regional thing that depends on a number of environmental and economic factors.

In California, Arizona and many of the southwest states, homes are made of stucco. In New Mexico, parts of Arizona and Texas, it is a combination of Adobe brick, stucco and brick.



The house is not made of stucco it is built of wood and covered with stucco. In fact I bet most of the "brick" homes people are talking about are also wood built and just covered with a brick veneer.

Built means that is the main support of the wall/house.
 

Danman

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Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Originally posted by: CPA
In Texas, homes are made with wood but a brick veneer and/or hardiplank (concrete siding product) is added to the outside.

And it works very well :)

Yea, it's weird - that's all they have here in Tallahassee.

Back in Orlando/Central Florida East Coast Region, it was mostly stucco over block, or brick over block, and a handful of wood houses. From my research, it seems it's determined based on building codes and the cost of the materials. When living on the east coast, you are prone to huge ass hurricanes hitting your house. :D I guess here in Tally, it's not a big risk since it's inland and on the panhandle.
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: soonerproud
Originally posted by: BradAtWork
Hi Americans.

If i'm generalising please correct me, but from TV/Films it appears most of your free standing homes are made of wood?

Why is this. Can most people not afford to build out of brick?

Where I come from (Australia) only older/low cost homes were built from wood.

Brick homes last longer and I imagine would maintain temperature better.

Is it just the abudance of cheap wood you have in the states, or is it just tradition or whatever.

Just curious.

In this part of the country, most newer homes are made of brick. It is a regional thing that depends on a number of environmental and economic factors.

In California, Arizona and many of the southwest states, homes are made of stucco. In New Mexico, parts of Arizona and Texas, it is a combination of Adobe brick, stucco and brick.



The house is not made of stucco it is built of wood and covered with stucco. In fact I bet most of the "brick" homes people are talking about are also wood built and just covered with a brick veneer.

Built means that is the main support of the wall/house.

I don't know a single home that doesn't have wood framing, but I'd hardly call the brick "veneer". Can't speak for others, but my house's outer walls are 2 layers of solid brick. It's a structural element on it's own. Not the core skeleton, but it's more than decoration.
 

soonerproud

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
The house is not made of stucco it is built of wood and covered with stucco. In fact I bet most of the "brick" homes people are talking about are also wood built and just covered with a brick veneer.

Built means that is the main support of the wall/house.

Just as the houses in Australia are probably wood or metal framed with a brick veneer. Very few places in the world allow new unreinforced masonry construction. The OP was most likely confusing the veneer for the structural materials.
 

Xcobra

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can you imagine how cold it would be if we had brick houses? and how hot it would get in the summer.....
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
If you think a tree farm is environmentally friendly, you are sorely mistaken.
There are some where I live. How are they bad?

They're as bad as any farm. A tree farm is a single age monoculture with very little ecological value, that replaces a natural forest. A lot of water and fertilizer is used to grow trees quickly. "Planting a tree" sounds good to hippies, but is not necessarily good.

http://www.gly.uga.edu/railsback/CTW/TreeFarm.jpeg
(That pic is from here... interesting article http://www.gly.uga.edu/railsback/CTW.html)

http://www.heritageplantations.com/Farm.jpg

http://brennertreefarm.hypermart.net/farmphoto.jpg

1) clear a forest

2) tree farming

3) don't build, new people shouldn't be able to own houses

so you are picking #3?
 

fstime

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Yup, when I went to Europe, every one commented "why are your homes built of wood?!?!?."

 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: BouZouki
Yup, when I went to Europe, every one commented "why are your homes built of wood?!?!?."

You'd think you'd be talking to a bit more interesting people.

Who would bring this up...

In Europe in the past wood framing was used. It's relatively recent that concrete construction for residential is commonplace.

The main reason wood framing is still popular in the US is that concrete block construction was always for utility, not luxury.

A properly built wood framed home is a pretty strong one...with modern concrete construction though even earthquake prone areas don't need to rely on aging and fire weak wood products.
 

Ackmed

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Um.. there are a ton of brick houses in the states. Obviously you are generalizing, and really dont know the facts.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: CorCentral


I hate wood......... Well except for when the wife asks me to get some!

What's better- having wood or being as hard as a rock?
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Add in the fact that European cities are denser and older and after repeated fired they often required non-wood construction. In the United States once you do not see it as often once you get to the younger areas of the country (with the exception of the downtown areas).
 

BradAtWork

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
ATOT welcomes the Aussie Ambassador of Stupid.

Jesus, what's with all the hate in this thread.

It was an honest question. Sorry i'm not an expert on US construction methodology.

Nobody ever got dumber asking questions mate, maybe you should try asking some occationally.

BTW, some people have mentioned that brick houses have wood frames. Here they do not. Our homes onyl use wood for the ceiling beems.
 

marvdmartian

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I've often wondered the same thing, but for different reasons. Year after year we see stick houses torn asunder from tornadoes and hurricanes, not to mention earthquakes.....and yet, they'll simply rebuild with the same construction materials! Better yet, we continue to sell mobile homes/manufactured homes, that fly apart even easier!!
When I lived in Guam, I saw one of the smartest decisions ever made by a local government, who made the decision over 30 years ago, after (pretty much) the entire island was destroyed twice in 25 years by super-typhoons (category 5 storms, equivalent to cat 5 hurricanes). They decided that wood just wasn't cutting it, and decreed that new construction was preferred to be reinforced concrete construction. Add to that that the insurance companies pretty much decided not to insure wooden structures any more, which leads to banks not willing to lend money for wooden structures........and 30 years later, there's 95+% concrete structures, and very little structural damage during the frequent storms there! :)

Oh, and for anyone who thinks that concrete means clunky looking block houses, I beg to differ. Anything you can do with wood, can also be done with reinforced concrete. I've seen some beautiful structures out there. So why do we continue to build in areas that have natural disasters, using construction materials that won't stand up to them??