Why do we still use MP3s and other lossy formats?

[poofyhairguy]

Music files as a concept are dying out. Why rip anything when there is Spotify?

 

[lxskllr]

Music files as a concept are dying out. Why rip anything when there is Spotify?

Because it isn't mine. I don't use network services when I can use my own gear.

 

[Rakehellion]

You have less than a 1 percent chance of getting 7 out of 10 correct by random chance. That's pretty low

No, not really. 5/10 is an even split so 7/10 would be a 25% chance, but that's still within a margin of error.

 

[Oyeve]

damn, what the hell happened to mine then... do you use a pin code or one of the other methods? wondering now if it may be related to a screen occupancy issue. but that's a guess and it wasn't an issue in 4.x.

Edit: i removed the pedometer from the lockscreen display and still no luck with my other players or Google play music. seems like i need to search this issue again and/ restore my phone and see what happens.

I use a pattern. But with print scan and pin it works as well. Have you tried setting it to show all content?

 

[Brainonska511]

Music files as a concept are dying out. Why rip anything when there is Spotify?

-Limited data plans
-No 100% network access
-Music desired not on Spotify
-etc

 

[poofyhairguy]

-Limited data plans
-No 100% network access
-Music desired not on Spotify
-etc

I can see that.

 

[Oyeve]

Music files as a concept are dying out. Why rip anything when there is Spotify?

I find steaming music of low quality. I ripped around 2000 CDs back in the day. Started at 128k because in 1997 HD space was costly and it took forever to encode just one song. In later years I ripped at 320k or, in some cases, pure WAV. Now, I wish I had the time to re-rip most of my stuff but I have spent the last couple of years ripping my vinyls from the 70s and 80s, especially 12" remixes from the early 80s, to mp3 format. Its a tedious project because I like my music in the purist form and streaming is just not it. Hell, I don't even like buying mp3s of music today! I still buy cds from amazon because they usually throw in the mp3 for download but I usually re-rip when I get the CD. MP3s a digital downloads may be great, but it also, IMO, caused the collapse of tangible media in music. And the quality, though subjective, of the music has gone downhill. Thank god there is a bevy of great music already existing!

 

[Midwayman]

I've done ABX testing and slowly stepped up the bitrate. In a silent room, critically listening, I do slightly better than chance on 256k mp3 and completely random on 320k. While on my home PC it make sense to rip to FLAC just for archival purposes, there is no reason for me to listen to those files where file size matters at all. The main issue I have with 320k mp3 is that if you do have to transcode it, losses multiply. However that only really matters for your archival copy, not for the ones you listen to.

 

[BoberFett]

Music files as a concept are dying out. Why rip anything when there is Spotify?

Why would you download the same music over and over and over again? And risk when there's a chance that the music you want isn't there tomorrow?

 

[poofyhairguy]

Why would you download the same music over and over and over again?

You act like that is some sort of huge hassle on my part. I mean, I get a data plan that is X big. I don't get a refund if I use less data than X. I don't have any motivation to not download the same song over and over.

And risk when there's a chance that the music you want isn't there tomorrow?

I wish I was that interesting that my musical tastes disappear at the whim of the recording industry. Most of the time when I search for songs on Spotify I get multiple hits for the same song because I get it on the main album, it on some movie soundtrack, and it on the greatest hits album. I am that boring.

I mean I completely agree with the theory, that is why I have a massive mediaserver for video content. Recently when all my friends complained about Netflix losing movies I was very smug that my library didn't lose a single movie. But I REALLY care about movies. A lot. I barely care about music in comparison. I spend more time listening to Audible than Spotify anyway, if the service stops having the songs I want then I will just move to Google Music or the next service.

It is all about priorities and at some level managing every little thing isn't worth it anymore. Heck I have a MASSIVE library of MP3s when I ripped my wife's huge CD collection when we first started dating that just sits on my server never getting used. It is easier for me to point her to Spotify than to upload what she wants to her phone when she wants it.

 

[MrSquished]

better off sticking to 256kbps MP3's but upgrading your source, amp, dac, headphones, etc...

 

[nakedfrog]

You act like that is some sort of huge hassle on my part. I mean, I get a data plan that is X big. I don't get a refund if I use less data than X. I don't have any motivation to not download the same song over and over.

I believe Republic Wireless works that way (get a refund based on unused data).

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Because most devices released today have less storage capacity than the ipods of 2005. 80gig ipod was released in 2005, but your choices of getting more than 64gigs of storage these days are pretty damn slim.

This. It's why I still keep a few iPod Classic 160GBs around.

 

[nakedfrog]

This. It's why I still keep a few iPod Classic 160GBs around.

As long as you keep them running, you'll probably be able to make a pretty penny selling them to the hipsters thirty years hence.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

320K guy myself

I like 320k as well.

 

[IronWing]

As long as you keep them running, you'll probably be able to make a pretty penny selling them to the hipsters thirty years hence.

I've got two of them. I plan on using them 30 years out.

 

[irishScott]

I challenge you to tell the difference between FLAC and mp3 over my car stereo after it's piped in through a cassette adapter. Plus my phone only has 64 GB of storage, much of which is used by apps and podcasts.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You have less than a 1 percent chance of getting 7 out of 10 correct by random chance. That's pretty low

Unless I'm misreading the quiz, I think there are only two options, e.g. it's like ten coin tosses and getting seven heads. That's higher than 1%.

 

[master_shake_]

Unless I'm misreading the quiz, I think there are only two options, e.g. it's like ten coin tosses and getting seven heads. That's higher than 1%.

that's exactly it.

50/50.

8 bit or 16 bit.

but as the others have pointed out it's not a good test...........

 

[MrSquished]

what are some of you guys that are running high bitrate MP3 or lossless using as your Amp/DAC/Headphones?

 

[BoberFett]

*snip*

Different strokes for different folks I guess. My phone signal sucks a lot more than it should, even having AT&T in a large city. I hate to lose my music for several minutes while driving through a crappy LTE zone, much less when the agreement between the streamer and the artist or record company changes.

 

[michal1980]

You have less than a 1 percent chance of getting 7 out of 10 correct by random chance. That's pretty low

got 9/10 for the 1st one, but only 4/10 for the second, what does that mean?

 

[lord_emperor]

I'd never tell the difference listening on my cell phone with $10 earbuds.

Not going to spend any more on earbuds that wind up in the washer on average twice per year.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

 

[master_shake_]

:biggrin:...nvm

totally messed that up