Why do the Muslims in Iraq kill each other everyday in such great numbers

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: RBachman
Lol, well I'm just trying to say... lack of A leads to B. Doesn't it seem interesting that the world's two most sexually restrictive cultures are also the two most violent, and have chosen each other to fight against?

I guess it depends on what you mean by sexually restrictive. And, btw, I think the more appropriate word is "repressive."

As far as culture goes, the US is part of western culture, one of the most sexually free cultures on this planet, unless you can name another major culture that is more free?

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: RBachman
Lol, well I'm just trying to say... lack of A leads to B. Doesn't it seem interesting that the world's two most sexually restrictive cultures are also the two most violent, and have chosen each other to fight against?

I guess it depends on what you mean by sexually restrictive. And, btw, I think the more appropriate word is "repressive."

As far as culture goes, the US is part of western culture, one of the most sexually free cultures on this planet, unless you can name another major culture that is more free?

Off hand, I would say that the rest of Western culture is ahead of us there. Yeah, we're part of the class...but we're sitting in the back, and we took the short bus to get there.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: RBachman
Lol, well I'm just trying to say... lack of A leads to B. Doesn't it seem interesting that the world's two most sexually restrictive cultures are also the two most violent, and have chosen each other to fight against?

I guess it depends on what you mean by sexually restrictive. And, btw, I think the more appropriate word is "repressive."

As far as culture goes, the US is part of western culture, one of the most sexually free cultures on this planet, unless you can name another major culture that is more free?

Off hand, I would say that the rest of Western culture is ahead of us there. Yeah, we're part of the class...but we're sitting in the back, and we took the short bus to get there.

One of the reasons these muslim radicals hate us so much is that they believe we are sexually perverse and decadent, which may be true. But when compared to the outrageous sexuallity that goes on in Europe, there is no comparison. Maybe these radicals picked the wrong country to strike at?

Really I am glad America isn't as sexually perverse as Europe in many ways and I hope things stay that way. Europe is headed in the wrong direction.

Compared to the rest of the world, we are way ahead.

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: RBachman
Choose:

a) Sex
b) Violence

You can't have both, it's human nature.

Violent sex?

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: RBachman
Choose:

a) Sex
b) Violence

You can't have both, it's human nature.

Violent sex?

:lips::wine::whip;

 

[JinLien]

Because the US invaded a country that was on the brink of a civil war due to the crippling effect of the 10 years embargo.

The US administration must have know that civil war will break out if they take out Saddam, however they must have felt that securing the oil fields in Iraq worth the lives and of good American & Iraqi citizens.

Saddam was the Iraqi tyrannous emperor, and there will be no peace under one heaven when you take the warlord out. (see Ying Xiong/Hero movie).

 

[imported_Pedro69]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: RBachman
Lol, well I'm just trying to say... lack of A leads to B. Doesn't it seem interesting that the world's two most sexually restrictive cultures are also the two most violent, and have chosen each other to fight against?

I guess it depends on what you mean by sexually restrictive. And, btw, I think the more appropriate word is "repressive."

As far as culture goes, the US is part of western culture, one of the most sexually free cultures on this planet, unless you can name another major culture that is more free?

Off hand, I would say that the rest of Western culture is ahead of us there. Yeah, we're part of the class...but we're sitting in the back, and we took the short bus to get there.

One of the reasons these muslim radicals hate us so much is that they believe we are sexually perverse and decadent, which may be true. But when compared to the outrageous sexuallity that goes on in Europe, there is no comparison. Maybe these radicals picked the wrong country to strike at?

Really I am glad America isn't as sexually perverse as Europe in many ways and I hope things stay that way. Europe is headed in the wrong direction.

Compared to the rest of the world, w.

Wrong direction?
Funny, most people I know think the US goes into the wrong direction.

Sexual perverts?
What a couple does in their bedroom is none of my or your business.
As long as the couple agrees on it and both enjoy it. No problem. If somebody gets hurt - It is a crime and will be punished.

You are way ahead?
Yep ahead in the wrong direction (see first)

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: kage69
Same thing happened to 'christianity,' CNN just wasn't around to cover it. Northern Ireland would be a good example within recent times.

So Christians strapped suicide belts around their waists by the hundreds if not thousands and went around killing thousands of people?

The Northern Ireland violence was bad, but its not comparable to this.

And violence between sunnis and shias is not a new thing, it dates back to when Islam was in its infancy. Sunnis are targeting Iraqi civilians, trying to create a more chaotic atmosphere than it is already and trying to get back at the shiites who now have more power than they have. The shiite radicals are targeting US soldiers.

There is a difference.

No christain on X violence could be chartarized by marching in, pillaging, raping, and slaugherting everyone in town and related to people in town. In later incidences it was much more refined in the sense that they would torture the individual person to admit covorting with the devil until the person admitted it then summarily execute them for it. Nobody expects the Spanish Inqusition.

 

[mOeeOm]

The US administration must have know that civil war will break out if they take out Saddam, however they must have felt that securing the oil fields in Iraq worth the lives and of good American & Iraqi citizens.

:Q Its to protect freedom and ensure national secuirty you fool!!

 

[judasmachine]

I think you are lumping them together in one group, when they are divided economically, ethnically, and politically. If we decided to take the kid gloves off here, there'd be christians killing christians, but you'd have to look closer to see what else seperates them. Much like our Civil War, there was very little differance between the combatants.

Rich
Poor
Sunni
Shiite
Kurd
Hard Line Muslim
Mainstream Muslim
Atheist
on and on and on...

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: JinLien

Because the US invaded a country that was on the brink of a civil war due to the crippling effect of the 10 years embargo.

The US administration must have know that civil war will break out if they take out Saddam, however they must have felt that securing the oil fields in Iraq worth the lives and of good American & Iraqi citizens.

Saddam was the Iraqi tyrannous emperor, and there will be no peace under one heaven when you take the warlord out. (see Ying Xiong/Hero movie).

Had we allowed the government to remain in chaos civil war would have errupted. The final result of that would be the fall of Iraq to an Irannian invasion which would likely trigger war between Syria and Iran. After that was finished and Damascus was in the hands of Iran, Iran would then turn south and seek to take the holy lands from Saudi and finally proclaim Shi'áte Ali the only true caliph that could have been.

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: JinLien

Because the US invaded a country that was on the brink of a civil war due to the crippling effect of the 10 years embargo.

The US administration must have know that civil war will break out if they take out Saddam, however they must have felt that securing the oil fields in Iraq worth the lives and of good American & Iraqi citizens.

Saddam was the Iraqi tyrannous emperor, and there will be no peace under one heaven when you take the warlord out. (see Ying Xiong/Hero movie).

Had we allowed the government to remain in chaos civil war would have errupted. The final result of that would be the fall of Iraq to an Irannian invasion which would likely trigger war between Syria and Iran. After that was finished and Damascus was in the hands of Iran, Iran would then turn south and seek to take the holy lands from Saudi and finally proclaim Shi'áte Ali the only true caliph that could have been.

You should make a movie out of that script.

 

[Votingisanillusion]

Many Iraqis believe that many of the car bombs targetting civilians are put there by the CIA, British special forces,...the goal being to divide and conquer. Military strategy 101.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: kage69
Same thing happened to 'christianity,' CNN just wasn't around to cover it. Northern Ireland would be a good example within recent times.

So Christians strapped suicide belts around their waists by the hundreds if not thousands and went around killing thousands of people?

The Northern Ireland violence was bad, but its not comparable to this.

And violence between sunnis and shias is not a new thing, it dates back to when Islam was in its infancy. Sunnis are targeting Iraqi civilians, trying to create a more chaotic atmosphere than it is already and trying to get back at the shiites who now have more power than they have. The shiite radicals are targeting US soldiers.

There is a difference.

No christain on X violence could be chartarized by marching in, pillaging, raping, and slaugherting everyone in town and related to people in town. In later incidences it was much more refined in the sense that they would torture the individual person to admit covorting with the devil until the person admitted it then summarily execute them for it. Nobody expects the Spanish Inqusition.

You mean modern day? Because their past has plenty examples of it. And I doubt any of the Sunnis (These are the big trouble-makers) know any of the Shiites they're killing on a regular basis.

 

[Buck Armstrong]

Originally posted by: JinLien

Because the US invaded a country that was on the brink of a civil war due to the crippling effect of the 10 years embargo.

The embargo is NOT why Iraq was on the brink of civil war. You need to read a bit about the history of the country...

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Strk
Since when did peaceful religions stop people from killing each other?

Peaceful Religions fighting each other.. all under the same God and the same Prophet.. is just totally bizarre.

Bizarre yes, unusual no. Most Americans claim to be religious, but have historically supported any war for any reason. Also, the time-honored mechanics of occupations tend to warp all social\religious constructs in a society.

 

[Moonbeam]

Might as well put this here too as all things are one thing:

Please try to understand that I was horribly traumatized as a child and have totally repressed the memories so I project this terror out there on everything that comes along. I know I am supposed to value freedom and all that sh!t, but when the Boogy Man rears his ugly head you can take your freedom and shove it up your ass. I demand a strong principled man of the same paranoid faith as me to be at the helm at such times and I want him in total control. The Boogy Man is bad Mojo man. There'll be no Voodoo for me. Save me please at any cost from me horrible repressed memories. Nothing ever happened, no, and I am really OK. There must never ever be anything different or odd around because what I fear has no name.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: MoonbeamI know I am supposed to value freedom and all that sh!t, but when the Boogy Man rears his ugly head you can take your freedom and shove it up your ass. I demand a strong principled man of the same paranoid faith as me to be at the helm at such times and I want him in total control.

Then you?re doomed to be constantly disappointed. There isn?t any such person available to allay your fears and otherwise ?take care of you?, and there never will be.

 

[Red Dawn]

Why do the Muslims in Iraq kill each other everyday in such great

Because they are so good at it.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Why do the Muslims in Iraq kill each other everyday in such great

Because they are so good at it.

Plenty of practice. And the loser in the competition does not cry foul.:evil:

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: rahvin
No Christian on X violence could be chartarized by marching in, pillaging, raping, and slaugherting everyone in town and related to people in town. In later incidences it was much more refined in the sense that they would torture the individual person to admit covorting with the devil until the person admitted it then summarily execute them for it. Nobody expects the Spanish Inqusition.

History says otherwise. Many Christians in last 2000 years are as bad as any other religious group. Go read about the Mountain Meadows massacre, in 1857.

Apparently, many people on both sides died in the initial conflict. The pioneers then surrendered. Under a flag of truce, they were disarmed, and then slaughtered in cold blood. In all, 120 men, women and children of the wagon train were killed.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_mass.htm

 

[azazyel]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: rahvin
No Christian on X violence could be chartarized by marching in, pillaging, raping, and slaugherting everyone in town and related to people in town. In later incidences it was much more refined in the sense that they would torture the individual person to admit covorting with the devil until the person admitted it then summarily execute them for it. Nobody expects the Spanish Inqusition.

History says otherwise. Many Christians in last 2000 years are as bad as any other religious group. Go read about the Mountain Meadows massacre, in 1857.

Apparently, many people on both sides died in the initial conflict. The pioneers then surrendered. Under a flag of truce, they were disarmed, and then slaughtered in cold blood. In all, 120 men, women and children of the wagon train were killed.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_mass.htm

Oh, and don't forget the Magdalene Asylums. You know where unwed mothers where forced into slave labor then buried in unmarked graves.

 

[cwjerome]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: rahvin
No Christian on X violence could be chartarized by marching in, pillaging, raping, and slaugherting everyone in town and related to people in town. In later incidences it was much more refined in the sense that they would torture the individual person to admit covorting with the devil until the person admitted it then summarily execute them for it. Nobody expects the Spanish Inqusition.

History says otherwise. Many Christians in last 2000 years are as bad as any other religious group. Go read about the Mountain Meadows massacre, in 1857.

Apparently, many people on both sides died in the initial conflict. The pioneers then surrendered. Under a flag of truce, they were disarmed, and then slaughtered in cold blood. In all, 120 men, women and children of the wagon train were killed.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_mass.htm

I don't think this is about obsessing over instances of of religious violence (Christian or otherwise) in the past. Seems to me the OP is wondering why MUSLIMS are killing each other so much TODAY.

 

[azazyel]

Originally posted by: cwjerome
I don't think this is about obsessing over instances of of religious violence (Christian or otherwise) in the past. Seems to me the OP is wondering why MUSLIMS are killing each other so much TODAY.

well power struggle comes to mind.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: cwjerome
I don't think this is about obsessing over instances of of religious violence (Christian or otherwise) in the past. Seems to me the OP is wondering why MUSLIMS are killing each other so much TODAY.

well power struggle comes to mind.

Religion is either being used as an excuse or justification.

It most always boils down to who want the bigger piece ofthe pie and what they are willing to do for it to ensure that they get it.