Why do SOOO many people steal?

[Amused]

Originally posted by: SampSon
It's a rush. Being "bad" is always a rush. You moral warriors might want to try it sometime.
And you get some free stuff to boot.

Fine. What's your address?

You see, I only steal from those who advocate or condone theft.

 

[ShinX]

Most ppl steal because they're poor and suck at life.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: MAME
because it's free

and if 1 person thinks that them NOT stealing will help reduce the price, then you're sorely mistaken. Therefore it's not enough cause to stop stealing

Bullsh!t. Retail theft costs consumers TENS OF BILLIONS of dollars per year in both increased costs of goods (shrinkage is figured into overhead) and insurance.

http://retailindustry.about.com/library/weekly/02/aa021126a.htm

31 billion to be exact. And who the fsck do you think pays for that???

 

[ShinX]

shoplifters sicken me , they are an insult to hard working people. they should all be captured and put in humiliating sexual positions

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MAME
because it's free

and if 1 person thinks that them NOT stealing will help reduce the price, then you're sorely mistaken. Therefore it's not enough cause to stop stealing

Bullsh!t. Retail theft costs consumers TENS OF BILLIONS of dollars per year in both increased costs of goods (shrinkage is figured into overhead) and insurance.

http://retailindustry.about.com/library/weekly/02/aa021126a.htm

31 billion to be exact. And who the fsck do you think pays for that???

Read what I said. ONE person will NEVER make a difference in the cost of an item. Thus, why would they not steal?

 

[toant103]

5 fingers discount huh.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: lirion

Originally posted by: abaez
I was on the metro train yesterday coming from l.a. This mentally disabled man had a cart and was selling those oversize pencils and a blow up smiley face doll and other trinkets... He left his cart in the front of the train while he went to the back to sell something (the train was not very full at all) and this punk kid grabs some stuff and quickly walks away while the MENTALLY disabled man wasn't looking. He stole cheap pencils and a blow up godam balloon that was worth no more than like 2 bux and this guy steals them. I felt like kicking his face in. I bought a balloon and pencil for 10 bux and told him to keep the change. Alot of other people sitting around (mostly guys) bought stuff too after seeing what the guy did. Makes me sick.

What if the guy was only pretending to be mentally disabled, and he had a buddy "steal" from him to make you feel sorry for him and buy stuff? 😛

LOL, office space. That crack dude made more money from his fake mental disability acting selling magazines than his programming job... haha

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Gnote
Have any mp3's Dulanic?

That's not stealing. The musicians aren't OUT anything. If I steal an mp3 player, the store is out an mp3 player which they paid for.

Still not right, but it's not the same thing.

It's theft, but from the recording industy for the most part, and not the artists. Only veteran acts interested in money only and who are willing to sound however they need to sound for that purpose (like Metallica) make more than a low single-digit percentage of final revenue, which is why they care more about mp3 downloading.

Originally posted by: HajikuFlip
This topic was actually good until piracy came up. Can we try to keep that out of this thread? Plenty of others in the archive if you care to go read up on.

Disagree, piracy is very pertinent to this thread. It's the flavor of theft most likely to be prevalent among a computer-savvy crowd, which AT certainly is.

 

[shopbruin]

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MAME
because it's free

and if 1 person thinks that them NOT stealing will help reduce the price, then you're sorely mistaken. Therefore it's not enough cause to stop stealing

Bullsh!t. Retail theft costs consumers TENS OF BILLIONS of dollars per year in both increased costs of goods (shrinkage is figured into overhead) and insurance.

http://retailindustry.about.com/library/weekly/02/aa021126a.htm

31 billion to be exact. And who the fsck do you think pays for that???

Read what I said. ONE person will NEVER make a difference in the cost of an item. Thus, why would they not steal?

so you're saying only one person has that mentality? oh man we've got a serious klepo in the us, robbing all these stores blind!

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Hector13

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Gnote
Have any mp3's Dulanic?

That's not stealing. The musicians aren't OUT anything. If I steal an mp3 player, the store is out an mp3 player which they paid for.

Still not right, but it's not the same thing.

justify it however you want to in your own head, but you are clearly stealing.

Me?

It's not the same thing. The musicians haven't lost anything. It's not right, but it's not quite the same thing.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: minendo
Your store's security sucks.

No Sh!t thaT IS WHAT i WAS GOING TO SAY


/caps lock off 😉

Sysadmin

 

[FuZoR]

Heres how to steal in a shoe store...

step in.. ask for shoe in whatever size... try it on. get someone else to distract the sales person. sales person helping a lot of people gets distracted.. you wear the new shoes put in the old shoes and say i don?t want it, proceed to walk out. oh make sure security guard it also not looking.
another way... ask for the sneakers.. put one sneaker inside your bag... come back a few days get the other one. LOL

luckily only 2-3 pairs of sneakers are stolen on avg a month so its not to big...
but the hats/socks/apparel on the other hand... a lot go missing every week

one time a group of 4 guys came into the store. 3 of them were distracters. distract me and 2 other sales and the security guard was in the back.
the guy cuts those tied down things and walks out with $800 worth of jeans. $100/jeans. lmao


I stole pogs and candy when i was younger.. lol like in 3-4th grade. It was just fun knowing you took something without paying.. LOL

 

[StageLeft]

People have no moral compass and don't consider that there will be a penalty for their actions.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: Dulanic

Originally posted by: chrisms
Why pay for something if you can have it for free?

Because you end up paying for it in the long run? Either eventually you get so caught up in it and you go to jail (wether it be over shoplifting or something else) or you go straight, and then you end up paying it back in the higher prices you pay for items. But noone looks at it that way when doing it.

I never end up paying for it in the higher prices, because I don't pay prices.

You're just trolling.

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: anxi80
kleptomania?

actually, here's a story my friend once told me. he once worked at a grocery store, and said people would always do a 'beer run'. sometimes he would give chase, other times he wouldnt. he said he wasnt supposed to, but his manager didnt really care. one day, 6 samoan?s walked in, grabbed 2-3 cases of beer, and the one's not carrying a case surrounded those who were, and walked out calmly. the manager looked at my friend and asked if he was gonna chase them, and he said 'HELL NO!'.

loooool

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MAME
because it's free

and if 1 person thinks that them NOT stealing will help reduce the price, then you're sorely mistaken. Therefore it's not enough cause to stop stealing

Bullsh!t. Retail theft costs consumers TENS OF BILLIONS of dollars per year in both increased costs of goods (shrinkage is figured into overhead) and insurance.

http://retailindustry.about.com/library/weekly/02/aa021126a.htm

31 billion to be exact. And who the fsck do you think pays for that???

Read what I said. ONE person will NEVER make a difference in the cost of an item. Thus, why would they not steal?

Because the world is made up of individuals. You should treat others as you wish to be treated.

The golden rule exists for a reason. The pity is, you can't see that.

Morals came about not because of a god, but because of a selfish need for security. We do not like to be killed, therefore it is immoral to murder. We do not like to have our property taken from us, therefore it is immoral to steal.

One person CAN make a difference because the world is made up of a bunch of "one persons." Change happens one person at a time.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MAME
because it's free

and if 1 person thinks that them NOT stealing will help reduce the price, then you're sorely mistaken. Therefore it's not enough cause to stop stealing

Bullsh!t. Retail theft costs consumers TENS OF BILLIONS of dollars per year in both increased costs of goods (shrinkage is figured into overhead) and insurance.

http://retailindustry.about.com/library/weekly/02/aa021126a.htm

31 billion to be exact. And who the fsck do you think pays for that???

Read what I said. ONE person will NEVER make a difference in the cost of an item. Thus, why would they not steal?

Because the world is made up of individuals. You should treat others as you wish to be treated.

The golden rule exists for a reason. The pity is, you can't see that.

Morals came about not because of a god, but because of a selfish need for security. We do not like to be killed, therefore it is immoral to murder. We do not like to have our property taken from us, therefore it is immoral to steal.

One person CAN make a difference because the world is made up of a bunch of "one persons." Change happens one person at a time.

But only in a large group can these single people make any difference. In the same vein a single vote almost never means anything because voting almost never comes within a single - even in the last presidential elections a single vote was meaningless (on a jury it's obviously more significant). Only a group of them was, but since an individual person knows that they have only one vote, whether they vote or not is all but meaningless. It's really a collective narcissism that allows democracy to work at all, and also a false feeling that if _I_ don't vote then maybe nobody else will, whereas in actuality my voting will not affect them in the least.

This has more on the exact psychology behind it all.

I personally wouldn't steal a CD. Not because my single theft would affect a damn thing to anybody else, but because I, on an individual basis, would feel bad about it. That conscience or principle isn't something I can really logically prove the benefits of, since the almost negligible effect I have on a stores finances is more than made up for by my personal benefit. It's based partly on upbringing, and partly on maybe something else - perhaps conscience is God? I find it very difficult to logically compel a person not to steal. If within a group of 100 a single person steals instead of working himself then that 100 people goes down perhaps to 99% productivity, but that single person is perhaps 200%, so why shouldn't he steal? Hopefully society has engrained in him a sense that it's bad, because although he can get away with it easily, if everybody does then they're up sh*t creek. Their response is to punish him, and in a world where few let their morals and principles truly dictate their actions, society has to use the justice system to beat it into them.

Literature backs up the fact that few allow their morals to develop past the law; ie. if the law says it's ok I'll just go ahead and do it.

 

[BeauJangles]

Who here admits to stealing when they were younger? I certainly did, and I believe most people do until their parents say "no, that's wrong"

 

[edro]

I stole baseball cards (all sports). We had a kickass system. You know those boxes you put your cards in? Well, we cut slits in the bottom, so when our box was on the counter and we were looking through cards, we could slide them in the bottom real fast.

We were evil...

The whole "Going to jail" thing stops me now... 😀

 

[tk149]

Those of you who steal regularly should go to a courthouse sometime. Listen in on a case involving sentencing for retail theft - they're not hard to find. When you see the look on the thief's face when he (or she) realizes that $100 worth of crap just cost them a year of jailtime, it' priceless.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MAME
because it's free

and if 1 person thinks that them NOT stealing will help reduce the price, then you're sorely mistaken. Therefore it's not enough cause to stop stealing

Bullsh!t. Retail theft costs consumers TENS OF BILLIONS of dollars per year in both increased costs of goods (shrinkage is figured into overhead) and insurance.

http://retailindustry.about.com/library/weekly/02/aa021126a.htm

31 billion to be exact. And who the fsck do you think pays for that???

Read what I said. ONE person will NEVER make a difference in the cost of an item. Thus, why would they not steal?

Because the world is made up of individuals. You should treat others as you wish to be treated.

The golden rule exists for a reason. The pity is, you can't see that.

Morals came about not because of a god, but because of a selfish need for security. We do not like to be killed, therefore it is immoral to murder. We do not like to have our property taken from us, therefore it is immoral to steal.

One person CAN make a difference because the world is made up of a bunch of "one persons." Change happens one person at a time.

But only in a large group can these single people make any difference. In the same vein a single vote almost never means anything because voting almost never comes within a single - even in the last presidential elections a single vote was meaningless (on a jury it's obviously more significant). Only a group of them was, but since an individual person knows that they have only one vote, whether they vote or not is all but meaningless. It's really a collective narcissism that allows democracy to work at all, and also a false feeling that if _I_ don't vote then maybe nobody else will, whereas in actuality my voting will not affect them in the least.

This has more on the exact psychology behind it all.

I personally wouldn't steal a CD. Not because my single theft would affect a damn thing to anybody else, but because I, on an individual basis, would feel bad about it. That conscience or principle isn't something I can really logically prove the benefits of, since the almost negligible effect I have on a stores finances is more than made up for by my personal benefit. It's based partly on upbringing, and partly on maybe something else - perhaps conscience is God? I find it very difficult to logically compel a person not to steal. If within a group of 100 a single person steals instead of working himself then that 100 people goes down perhaps to 99% productivity, but that single person is perhaps 200%, so why shouldn't he steal? Hopefully society has engrained in him a sense that it's bad, because although he can get away with it easily, if everybody does then they're up sh*t creek. Their response is to punish him, and in a world where few let their morals and principles truly dictate their actions, society has to use the justice system to beat it into them.

Literature backs up the fact that few allow their morals to develop past the law; ie. if the law says it's ok I'll just go ahead and do it.

That's too much to read but I did see voting in there. Yeah, an election will never be decided by 1 vote which is why I never will vote. It's pointless.

As for stealing, if person A steals item B and isn't caught, they just got a free item. The price of that item will NOT increase next time they enter the store. It's the millions of items stolen after a longer period of time that causes prices to increase. Just because one person stole the item one time (hell, even like 10 times in many cases), it will NOTTTTTTTTTTT have an impact on the price of the item.

Try this: go to your local super market and steal an apple. Go back the next day and see if the price has gone up.
Obviously no price change would occur, which is my point: one person won't make a difference so if one guy stops stealing, it wouldn't make a difference in price. Thus, from their point of view, why would they stop stealing?

 

[hdeck]

potential benefits outweight opportunity costs of getting caught.

 

[vladbot]

People are gealous of others that they have stuff they can't afford. So they steal it.

 

[adelphi]

aka corporate fringe benefits

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: vladbot
People are gealous of others that they have stuff they can't afford. So they steal it.

gealous...