Why do some of you have such a problem with Atkins?

[Saulbadguy]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
How about after you drop the weight, do you have to continue eating the Atkins way to keep the weight off?Can you start eating more of a conventional diet along with regular exercise and not get fat again?

Yes. Same as any other diet, if you go back to your old habits..eating 4,000+ calories a day, and not excercising..you will get fat again. This is no different from Weight Watchers, Sugar busters, etc. You are not to stay in ketosis in the lifetime maintanence phase. You could, but it would be pointless. After Atkins..here are the things you can enjoy.

All Vegetables
All Fruits
Whole wheat/grain bread
Whole wheat pastas
etc etc..

The things that should be off limits to any diet remain..refined flour, sugars, etc.

Lets say you go on a cruise..and binge the entire time. You can go back on induction for 2 weeks, to lose that weight again. This is not reccomended to do over and over again, but can be done.

Any other questions?

 

[dabuddha]

Because my doctor and my dietician both have told me numerous times it's good for the short run, but in the long run, you're damaging your body. My brother in law (a doctor) has told me the same thing as well. I don't name call or anything silly like that. It's just something I'd rather not do. To me, it's just a shortcut with harmful side effects.

 

[Saulbadguy]

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm

This is THE reason why Atkins is getting pounded like an altar boy. The diet industry is massive in the USA. There is a huge stake in:

1. Fat free/low fat items
2. Jenny Craig
3. Sugar Busters
4. Weight loss pills
5. LOTS more that I've failed to mention.

The Atkins diet is easier on the pocketbook if you know how to shop. The "normal" diet industry has a lot to lose if Atkins is widely accepted.

If you seriously think Atkins Nutritionals, Inc. doesn't have an agenda to make money with their diet, their marketing and advertising must have done wonders on you.

Atkins is not about zero carbs. PLEASE, everyone get this through your tiny little brains. It is about cutting them....and controlling them. Once you are at the ideal weight, you can eat up to 100g of carbs per day as long as you exercise regularly.

There is NO evidence that Atkins is bad for anyone. As a matter of fact, some doctors believe it is the reason Dr. Atkins lived as long as he did with a serious heart condition.

That's why my tiny little brained typed LOW, not zero. Please read the sentences fully before you jump on your Atkins horse and try to defend it. Why not simply reduce caloric intake, eat a wider variety of healthy, colorful foods and exercise. The same thing as Atkins but you don't have to worry about the long term effects of ketosis (kidney / liver) and cholesterol intake. This fab diet has not been around long enough to study just how serious the effects are. But, reducing caloric intake has no side effect except for weight loss. No worries.

Fab..? Do you mean fad? Either way..it has been around since the 70's. Almost 30 years. Is that not long enough to study how serious the effects are or are not?

 

[Saulbadguy]

double post

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: dabuddha
Because my doctor and my dietician both have told me numerous times it's good for the short run, but in the long run, you're damaging your body. My brother in law (a doctor) has told me the same thing as well. I don't name call or anything silly like that. It's just something I'd rather not do. To me, it's just a shortcut with harmful side effects.

YoYo Dieting is harmful too as is being Obese. I'm wondering what the percentage of people who lost wieght on this were able to keep the wieght off?

 

[Red]

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm

This is THE reason why Atkins is getting pounded like an altar boy. The diet industry is massive in the USA. There is a huge stake in:

1. Fat free/low fat items
2. Jenny Craig
3. Sugar Busters
4. Weight loss pills
5. LOTS more that I've failed to mention.

The Atkins diet is easier on the pocketbook if you know how to shop. The "normal" diet industry has a lot to lose if Atkins is widely accepted.

If you seriously think Atkins Nutritionals, Inc. doesn't have an agenda to make money with their diet, their marketing and advertising must have done wonders on you.

Atkins is not about zero carbs. PLEASE, everyone get this through your tiny little brains. It is about cutting them....and controlling them. Once you are at the ideal weight, you can eat up to 100g of carbs per day as long as you exercise regularly.

There is NO evidence that Atkins is bad for anyone. As a matter of fact, some doctors believe it is the reason Dr. Atkins lived as long as he did with a serious heart condition.

That's why my tiny little brained typed LOW, not zero. Please read the sentences fully before you jump on your Atkins horse and try to defend it. Why not simply reduce caloric intake, eat a wider variety of healthy, colorful foods and exercise. The same thing as Atkins but you don't have to worry about the long term effects of ketosis (kidney / liver) and cholesterol intake. This fab diet has not been around long enough to study just how serious the effects are. But, reducing caloric intake has no side effect except for weight loss. No worries.

Fab..? Do you mean fad? Either way..it has been around since the 70's. Almost 30 years. Is that not long enough to study how serious the effects are or are not?

I meant fad, yes. 30 years is plenty of time to study.... so if you have results of someone staying on Atkins, please post the results of the study and the condition of their health. I'm sure many diets have been around for 30 years, but 98% of people go on diets temporarily and never lose weight.

 

[FeathersMcGraw]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
YoYo Dieting is harmful too as is being Obese. I'm wondering what the percentage of people who lost wieght on this were able to keep the wieght off?

According to the New England Journal of Medicine, not significantly more or less than people following traditional low-fat diets at the end of one year.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
If it works for you fine.

If ppl b!tch about it, ignore them.

You'll sound like an Atkins evangelist otherwise.

Why do you have such a problem with what other people think?



I don't (care to) know (enough) about the Atken's Diet to comment one way or another . . . my own diet coupled with exercise also works perfectly for me (I lost 35 lbs from May through August and it has stayed OFF and I feel great).

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dabuddha
Because my doctor and my dietician both have told me numerous times it's good for the short run, but in the long run, you're damaging your body. My brother in law (a doctor) has told me the same thing as well. I don't name call or anything silly like that. It's just something I'd rather not do. To me, it's just a shortcut with harmful side effects.

YoYo Dieting is harmful too as is being Obese. I'm wondering what the percentage of people who lost wieght on this were able to keep the wieght off?

me too!

 

[apoppin]

Speaking of Yo-Yo dieting . . .

yes it is as harmful to the body as simply staying overweight.

A diet - IF it is to be successful - has to be adopted as a PERMANENT way of life.

To lose weight and keep weight off - you MUST continue.

E.g.: I was on "my diet" for nearly six months and AFTER I reached my target weight - it was SUCH A HABIT - I continued to lose weight. :Q

So I had to make a MODIFICATION to eat more!

It is NOT a "diet" anymore - it's a "new way of life."

Try thinking of your diet that way . . . and that you may be "on Atkins" for the rest of your life. :Q

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Wingznut -

What you fail to appreciate is that there are a lot of people here that merely exist to tear people down. They never have anything positive to say.

ATOT is like the world's largest asshole pageant.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Wingznut -

What you fail to appreciate is that there are a lot of people here that merely exist to tear people down. They never have anything positive to say.

ATOT is like the world's largest asshole pageant.

haha...well said.

My main beef is with the people who say "I'm on the Atkins diet" and proceed to tell you that they just eat a steak with melted cheddar and a fried egg on top for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and then just saton their ass all day and the pounds are just melting off. They aren't following the diet as it is intended, they just heard the buzzwords "low carb" and figured, hey I can eat whatever the fsck I want if it doesn't have carbs!

So basically, I have no problem with the diet, just the Atkins poseurs.

Oh and I am pretty tired of the 400 posts about it every day.

 

[loup garou]

dp

 

[StageLeft]

ATOT is like the world's largest asshole pageant.

You can say that again!

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Wingznut -

What you fail to appreciate is that there are a lot of people here that merely exist to tear people down. They never have anything positive to say.

ATOT is like the world's largest asshole pageant.

Then he must be posting to hear what us positive people have to say.

If this is the the world's largest asshole pageant, then you are also addicted to it and look to "approval" from it.
(BTW, you asked for advice from us asses, yesterday)

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate Wingznut - What you fail to appreciate is that there are a lot of people here that merely exist to tear people down. They never have anything positive to say. ATOT is like the world's largest asshole pageant.

Then he must be posting to hear what us positive people have to say. If this is the the world's largest asshole pageant, then you are also addicted to it and look to "approval" from it. (BTW, you asked for advice from us asses, yesterday)

I was not referring to you, apoppin. You are a nice guy, and generally have something constructive. Thanks!

I was not seeking approval yesterday. I was basking in the pale glow of the collective's negativity I was engaged in a self-pity party, and I'd like to thank all those who participated. Misery does indeed love company.

I am just having a pretty crappy morning

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
It is not nutrionally healthy. Your doctor wants to stay in business 5 years from now so he wants everyone to stay on Atkins for heart-related diseases down the road.

Seriously though, I learned last semester in an advanced human nutrition class that low carb diets are not healthy. The right carbs are good for you and the only healthy way to lose weight is to exercise and reduce caloric intake. That was the whole semester in summary.

Ketosis is hard on the body, and Atkins over a long period of time is really unhealthy.

So the Hippocratic oath means nothing now?

 

[0roo0roo]

successful fad diets by definition work in the short run, whether they are good for you or not.

studies show that after a year off the diets, they all have the same failure rate. its a buncha bull.

i prefer the heroin diet myself.

 

[Geekbabe]

I don't have a problem with Atkins,I do have a problem with people who yell at me everytime they see me eating a slice of bread.Everyone's body is different,I've lost a fair amount of weight (and kept it off) simply by watching my intake and trying to exercise more.Going totally without carbs makes me feel sick,not good.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm It is not nutrionally healthy. Your doctor wants to stay in business 5 years from now so he wants everyone to stay on Atkins for heart-related diseases down the road. Seriously though, I learned last semester in an advanced human nutrition class that low carb diets are not healthy. The right carbs are good for you and the only healthy way to lose weight is to exercise and reduce caloric intake. That was the whole semester in summary. Ketosis is hard on the body, and Atkins over a long period of time is really unhealthy.

So the Hippocratic oath means nothing now?

Glad to see that one nutrition class makes one an expert.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: dabuddha
Because my doctor and my dietician both have told me numerous times it's good for the short run, but in the long run, you're damaging your body. My brother in law (a doctor) has told me the same thing as well. I don't name call or anything silly like that. It's just something I'd rather not do. To me, it's just a shortcut with harmful side effects.

YoYo Dieting is harmful too as is being Obese. I'm wondering what the percentage of people who lost wieght on this were able to keep the wieght off?

Agreed on that. My docs have told me that the best way to do it is to just watch your diet carefully and do some exercise. Doesn't have to be 4 hours of cardio or a 50 mile run. Even walking is good. So I cut out all junk food completely (no snack crap nothing) and I always take a short walk after my lunch break at work as well as when I get home from work. I still do my weights of course. The main thing is that you shouldn't try to "shock" your system into losing weight.

 

[Linflas]

Why do some of you have such a problem with Atkins?

Some people have nothing better to do than mind other peoples business as well as their own. For whatever reason they have determined that the diet is not for them but will not be truly happy unless they convince all you misguided "others" that it is not for you either. Really no different than politics/religion/car makes and models etc..

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm It is not nutrionally healthy. Your doctor wants to stay in business 5 years from now so he wants everyone to stay on Atkins for heart-related diseases down the road. Seriously though, I learned last semester in an advanced human nutrition class that low carb diets are not healthy. The right carbs are good for you and the only healthy way to lose weight is to exercise and reduce caloric intake. That was the whole semester in summary. Ketosis is hard on the body, and Atkins over a long period of time is really unhealthy.

So the Hippocratic oath means nothing now?

Glad to see that one nutrition class makes one an expert.

It doesn't but my doctors as well as my brother in law have concurred with what he's saying. Having ketones in your body is dangerous for you.

 

[Red]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm It is not nutrionally healthy. Your doctor wants to stay in business 5 years from now so he wants everyone to stay on Atkins for heart-related diseases down the road. Seriously though, I learned last semester in an advanced human nutrition class that low carb diets are not healthy. The right carbs are good for you and the only healthy way to lose weight is to exercise and reduce caloric intake. That was the whole semester in summary. Ketosis is hard on the body, and Atkins over a long period of time is really unhealthy.

So the Hippocratic oath means nothing now?

Glad to see that one nutrition class makes one an expert.

Did I claim to be an expert? I'll forgive you because you're in a bad mood, but for an attorney you shouldn't jump to conclusions like that. I think that taking a human nutrition class taught by a registered dietician and doctor has a lot of relevance to a diet. No, I'm not an expert, but I have more unbiased information than an Atkins extremist who has fallen into their marketing scheme.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
It is not nutrionally healthy. Your doctor wants to stay in business 5 years from now so he wants everyone to stay on Atkins for heart-related diseases down the road.

Seriously though, I learned last semester in an advanced human nutrition class that low carb diets are not healthy. The right carbs are good for you and the only healthy way to lose weight is to exercise and reduce caloric intake. That was the whole semester in summary.

Ketosis is hard on the body, and Atkins over a long period of time is really unhealthy.

I learned a long time ago that you can't trust a professor's bias for as far as you can throw them. Here is something you need to do as a student, you must have everything proved to you. There has been NO SCIENTIFIC data either confirming the safety or proving the dangers of ANY diet. NONE. ZERO. Without objective scientific studies to validate the healthyness of any diet everything becomes speculation including everything taught in your nutrition class.

Humans are just beginning to research this area so take any information you recieve with a grain of salt and ask for results of actual scientific studies to confirm any asserstians.