why do people talk about racial and gender equality...

Patranus

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Because they would rather blame outside causes instead of looking inward towards their own failures.

All 3 issues are faux issues.
 

berzerker60

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Because during the Cold War, Americans were terrified of communists. As an over-reaction, every discussion of economic inequality STILL brings up terrified sputtering about evil communists and "class warfare."

That, plus America is run by the super-wealthy who depend upon and benefit from inequality of all kinds.
 

Orignal Earl

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Because during the Cold War, Americans were terrified of communists. As an over-reaction, every discussion of economic inequality STILL brings up terrified sputtering about evil communists and "class warfare."

That, plus America is run by the super-wealthy who depend upon and benefit from inequality of all kinds.

It started way before that

A Brief History of the United States of America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjSmr7vXUgQ
 

tracerbullet

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But never talk about economic equality?

Because people believe your race and gender are 100% not your fault but your economic conditions are 100% completely under your control. Not much or mostly or almost all under your control, but 100%. And since they have theirs they don't want to deal with anyone else who doesn't. Helps them feel superior too, and makes them even think they are smarter and / or work harder. Who'd want to give up that status?
 

HomerJS

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Dems have been talking about income inequality for over 10 years because its been growing sine 1979. GOP attempting to jump on the bandwagon in the last few months for 2016

We talk about racial and gender equality because we don't have it.
 

rudeguy

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Because you can solve your own income inequality.

Get a job, work hard, get a better job. Sitting around waiting for the government to take money from someone else and give it to you won't work.
 

HomerJS

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Because you can solve your own income inequality.

Get a job, work hard, get a better job. Sitting around waiting for the government to take money from someone else and give it to you won't work.

Might want to start with CEO not paying a lower tax rate then the PA that works for them.

But I guess you assume that PA is lazy and dumb and deserves a higher tax rate.
 

alcoholbob

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Economic inequality has been growing rapidly since Lyndon Johnsons' War on Poverty. It's inevitable when the cost of providing 1 person welfare is more than the median income. Government is the ultimate middle man when its bureaucracy consumes 70-80% of funds allocated to "poor people."
 

berzerker60

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Economic inequality has been growing rapidly since Lyndon Johnsons' War on Poverty. It's inevitable when the cost of providing 1 person welfare is more than the median income. Government is the ultimate middle man when its bureaucracy consumes 70-80% of funds allocated to "poor people."

What a dumb interpretation based off of a loose correlation of timing and then a ludicrously false claim
 

sandorski

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Completely different categories of issues.

On the issue of Income: Providing a Minimum Income that's suitable for survival is the best solution for maximizing Liberty. There probably should be a Maximum as well, to prevent Oligarchy, but the idea of Economic Equality creates more problems than it solves.
 

rudder

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Might want to start with CEO not paying a lower tax rate then the PA that works for them.

But I guess you assume that PA is lazy and dumb and deserves a higher tax rate.

Well if the CEO is getting paid through earnings from capital gains and dividends... then that money from investments has already been taxed heavily when the corporation made the profits.

Now are you telling me that a CEO that earns a salary and say for example earns two million dollars per year has a lower tax rate that someone earning $50,000?
 

nickqt

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Well if the CEO is getting paid through earnings from capital gains and dividends... then that money from investments has already been taxed heavily when the corporation made the profits.

Now are you telling me that a CEO that earns a salary and say for example earns two million dollars per year has a lower tax rate that someone earning $50,000?

Depends on how that "salary" is structured. Carried-interest or capital gains + tax deductions can easily result in a tax rate under 14% for tens of millions of dollars in "income" in a year.
 

MagickMan

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Because proggie bitches just sit behind their keyboards and cry, waiting for someone else to do something for them. :'(
 

Naer

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The swiss are installing a ubi(universal basic income). A lot needs to learn from them
 

PokerGuy

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What is there to talk about? For there to be economic equality, everyone's work or output has to be worth the same. That's obviously a stupid premise, so there's no reason to talk about economic equality, it's a pointless discussion.

Further, you have no control over your race or gender, and race and gender don't impact what you are capable of producing. Thus, to the extent that race or gender economic disparity is caused by prejudice, it is worth examining to see how we can do better.

Everyone's situation is different, but you have at least some significant impact on your personal economic situation. That makes it very different from factors you have no control over like race or gender.
 

rudeguy

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What is there to talk about? For there to be economic equality, everyone's work or output has to be worth the same. That's obviously a stupid premise, so there's no reason to talk about economic equality, it's a pointless discussion.

Further, you have no control over your race or gender, and race and gender don't impact what you are capable of producing. Thus, to the extent that race or gender economic disparity is caused by prejudice, it is worth examining to see how we can do better.

Everyone's situation is different, but you have at least some significant impact on your personal economic situation. That makes it very different from factors you have no control over like race or gender.

Well said.

I would still like to hear what the democrats want to do to "cure" income inequality? I am very interested.
 

PokerGuy

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I would still like to hear what the democrats want to do to "cure" income inequality? I am very interested.

Rest assured that the "fix" for income inequality, just like the "fix" to global warming, or anything else for that matter involves giving more money and power to government and liberal groups.
 

IronWing

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Well said.

I would still like to hear what the democrats want to do to "cure" income inequality? I am very interested.

The Dems? Nothing. They are a party of the rich.

Liberals, on the other hand, would restore the inheritance tax and restore the progressive income tax. The current regressive tax scheme is a throwback to the middle ages. "Only the little people pay taxes."