Why Do People Not Like Tom's Hardware?

[compudog]

Originally posted by: Novgrod
In addition to Tom's tendency to inflate his reputation, his articles are just so sensationalist I can't stomach them. If they're not exalting Tom or his cronies as the Grand-Almighty Poo-Bah of Reviewing, they're explaining how one company is either Triumphant over its Enemies or it is a Catastropic Failure, each and every product, and it can change from review to review. Tom used to hump AMD's leg when he broke the whole Rambus deal, then with the overclocked P3 scenario. Now he wants to make sweet love to intel. If I want clear, concise writing with a bare minimum of useless commentary, I write it myself. Otherwise I read anandtech's articles (when they come out).

This is how I see it as well. I check Tom's site out on occasion, but I get best results from Anandtech.

<----Anandtech FanBoy!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: compudog

Originally posted by: Novgrod
In addition to Tom's tendency to inflate his reputation, his articles are just so sensationalist I can't stomach them. If they're not exalting Tom or his cronies as the Grand-Almighty Poo-Bah of Reviewing, they're explaining how one company is either Triumphant over its Enemies or it is a Catastropic Failure, each and every product, and it can change from review to review. Tom used to hump AMD's leg when he broke the whole Rambus deal, then with the overclocked P3 scenario. Now he wants to make sweet love to intel. If I want clear, concise writing with a bare minimum of useless commentary, I write it myself. Otherwise I read anandtech's articles (when they come out).

This is how I see it as well. I check Tom's site out on occasion, but I get best results from Anandtech.

<----Anandtech FanBoy!

Did you catch Anand on the streaming workshop? He IS the man! The reason he doesn't post as many articles and reviews is because he's still in school IIRC and is extremely active about picking AMD and Intel and many other tech companies brains concerning every aspect of the present and future technology they are developing. The definitive answers he provided to the questions he fielded was astonishing :Q There was no sidestepping or wild speculation, just extremely informative explanations After he was through Kyle gets up and says "He knows his sh*t dosen't he! Then even had to refer another question to him later because Anand had the skinny! His professional demeanor and laid back attitude carrys over into his writting and it's what I think sets him apart from many of the others like UberTom

 

[iZero]

Tom has resorted to using sensationalism to gain name recognition. While this has been successful insofar as getting his name and site out there, it has left myself and many in the community with a sense of inaccurate testing and reporting. I think this all occured when he first claimed either the Pentium II or III was slower than that which is was replacing (which later was disproven). This was so long ago, I've forgotten and a Google search hasn't helped me locate the article... Next came video card "reviews" and videos of Athlons burning up. Toss in the old anti-American sentiment which has no place on a hardware site in the first place, and there you have it.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: compudog

Originally posted by: Novgrod
In addition to Tom's tendency to inflate his reputation, his articles are just so sensationalist I can't stomach them. If they're not exalting Tom or his cronies as the Grand-Almighty Poo-Bah of Reviewing, they're explaining how one company is either Triumphant over its Enemies or it is a Catastropic Failure, each and every product, and it can change from review to review. Tom used to hump AMD's leg when he broke the whole Rambus deal, then with the overclocked P3 scenario. Now he wants to make sweet love to intel. If I want clear, concise writing with a bare minimum of useless commentary, I write it myself. Otherwise I read anandtech's articles (when they come out).

This is how I see it as well. I check Tom's site out on occasion, but I get best results from Anandtech.

<----Anandtech FanBoy!

Did you catch Anand on the streaming HardOCP workshop? He IS the man! The reason he doesn't post as many articles and reviews is because he's still in school IIRC and is extremely active about picking AMD and Intel and many other tech companies brains concerning every aspect of the present and future technology they are developing. The definitive answers he provided to the questions he fielded was astonishing :Q There was no sidestepping or wild speculation, just extremely informative explanations After he was through Kyle gets up and says "He knows his sh*t dosen't he! Then even had to refer another question to him later because Anand had the skinny! His professional demeanor and laid back attitude carrys over into his writting and it's what I think sets him apart from many of the others like UberTom

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: Smilin
I'm just basically making it up eh?
Here's tom cocking off at the mouth about the p3 stuff:

And related to those: Link

We think that for historical reason it should be us and nobody else, who tests Intel's second attempt to manufacture a Pentium III at this clock speed

Uh, yeah sure Tom. Whatever you say

 

[Bojangles139]

so, why is US bashing so terrible? we bash the canadians, french, english, etc all the time. he's entitlted to his opion. am i gonna lose sleep cause Tom dislikes my country? hell no. besides, he's only a european and those people are werird, right? and for the life of me, i can not see why people dislike the fact he changes his opions from product to product. god, doesn't that prove he's not a fanboy or lacky for somebody? seriously, do people not put 2 and 2 together? if somebody puts out a POS, he say's it, whats so wrong about that?

brandon

 

[compudog]

Originally posted by: Smilin
Oh STFU you started it. Just leave my dog out of it next time and you won't get insulted. Now run along little man..tom has just discovered how to make his nuts bounce on your chin with his PDA and he wants to test it out for the new article.

LOL!

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: jasonsRX7

Originally posted by: Smilin
Oh STFU you started it. Just leave my dog out of it next time and you won't get insulted. Now run along little man..tom has just discovered how to make his nuts bounce on your chin with his PDA and he wants to test it out for the new article.

Witness the degradation of this thread, and these forums in general sometimes, and you can't help but wonder how some people have the nerve to criticize someone elses writing ability....

"you started it"
"leave my dog out of it"
"nuts bounce on chin"

The most vocal Tom hater has to admit that even Omid Rahmat has more worthwhile comments to read.

Ok, ok ok. You're right. Not exactly one of my finer moments but to my credit I'm goofing around and not being really serious. But hey, go drop a "Why don't people like Anandtech thread at tom's forum and see what you get." I actually used to be a member of that forum but I found it was generally riddled with unprofessional, uneducated and immature comments (not completely unlike the one above )

In all seriousness - tom HAS made some contributions to the community but nothing really earth shaking and certainly nothing to warrant his pompous attitude.

My apologies for degrading the thread a bit fellas. Pariah you can still hum on em though

 

[jasonsRX7]

Originally posted by: Bojangles139
so, why is US bashing so terrible? we bash the canadians, french, english, etc all the time. he's entitlted to his opion. am i gonna lose sleep cause Tom dislikes my country? hell no. besides, he's only a european and those people are werird, right? and for the life of me, i can not see why people dislike the fact he changes his opions from product to product. god, doesn't that prove he's not a fanboy or lacky for somebody? seriously, do people not put 2 and 2 together? if somebody puts out a POS, he say's it, whats so wrong about that?

brandon

I think you're right. I know I've never read any America bashing on Toms site, and I'm certain he doesn't hate Americans. Maybe he had a bad trip to America and complained about it on his site, and some people took it and ran.

Novgrod had this to say:

Tom used to hump AMD's leg when he broke the whole Rambus deal, then with the overclocked P3 scenario. Now he wants to make sweet love to intel.

That says it all. Fanboys want someone to say good things about the products they own. They don't care as much for the reviewers honest opinion. They want someone to pat them on the back and say "good job on your purchase!"

Fact is, if he feels like one company or another has dropped the ball, he slams them for it. And he does it in a vocal way, which tends to upset the fanatics. Anand also makes negative comments in his reviews, but he words them in a much less harsh way, and usually follows them up with some nice fluffy positive comments. This is smart on his part, since the fans will read what they want to hear, it won't upset them as much, and they've still been patted on the back.

 

[blade]

I think you're right. I know I've never read any America bashing on Toms site, and I'm certain he doesn't hate Americans. Maybe he had a bad trip to America and complained about it on his site, and some people took it and ran.

You're wrong.

As I mentioned earlier for the Tom impaired, this all happened years ago when this forum was a ubb forum. It was NOT just one small incident either that some made a big deal out of. He kept persisting bashing our country and insulting Americans and when banned he'd make new names to come back and troll.

And as I mentioned earlier, he eventually stopped and did so only because it was hurting his business. Since then it appears he has kept his foul and insulting mouth shut. So most since that time would not be aware of what he did unless others told them.


Anyway, it seems pretty clear most don't care how he really feels about Americans and will still support his site regardless. So carry on continue supporting a clear Anti-American.

 

[jasonsRX7]

Originally posted by: blade
You're wrong.

As I mentioned earlier for the Tom impaired, this all happened years ago when this forum was a ubb forum

Not that I don't believe you, but I didn't visit these forums much back then. Does anyone have any of those posts logged? I'd be interested to read them. Then, I could make my own opinion whether he is or not. It wouldn't make his site any less useful, but I certainly don't want to run around saying he's not anti-american if he in fact, is.

So carry on continue supporting a clear Anti-American.

He's not a "clear Anti-American" to those of us who haven't read any anti-american statements.

 

[Mallow]

it's an extremely confusing web page IMO

 

[blade]

Does anyone have any of those posts logged?

Like I said, this all happened years ago when this was a ubb forum. It's very difficult to expect anyone to save things from back then. But I did have some saved, though they were lost in a hard drive crash.

I think Harvey mentioned he had some saved, perhaps he'll post them.

 

[EdipisReks]

i personally liked his site when Tom actually did the reviews. i found that his articles, while occasionally a bit rough around the edges and opinionated, were generally very in depth. however, now that he fishes the reviews out to his lackeys, i don't read his site very much.

 

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Even worse, he's a zealot who's opinion changes with every new product release.

what a hilarious contradiction you have come up with! congratulations!

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: blade

Does anyone have any of those posts logged?

Like I said, this all happened years ago when this was a ubb forum. It's very difficult to expect anyone to save things from back then. But I did have some saved, though they were lost in a hard drive crash.

I think Harvey mentioned he had some saved, perhaps he'll post them.

I'll serve witness on this. Yeah tom had a bad trip to the U.S. and really really lost his cool. If I didn't know better I would have sworn he was a ranting 14 year old. It was really pathetic.


...
you know in the middle of writing this I was looking for "toms blurb" that started all the fuss back in the day, and you know what? He's taken it down. It's not there any longer. Curious.

 

[Sunner]

jasonsRX7
Trust me, he did quite a bit of harsch America bashing.
And this is coming from a Swede, so don't think Im some overreacting fanatically patriotic American.

 

[jasonsRX7]

Originally posted by: Sunner
jasonsRX7
Trust me, he did quite a bit of harsch America bashing.
And this is coming from a Swede, so don't think Im some overreacting fanatically patriotic American.

Really? Now you've piqued my curiosity and I want to read some of this stuff... should be interesting.

Honestly, I think I may remember hearing tid bits about this a long time ago. That's why I thought I recalled it being about a trip to the US that he had a bad experience with. But I can't remember at all what was said, hell, I don't even remember what my user name was on the old forums.

 

[Sunner]

Well, as Blade said, this is quite some time ago, say 3-4 years or something, I don't have anything left, if it were personal mails between me and the Doctor, I'd probably have them around, but these were just posts in forums, etc.

Google cache maybe?

 

[0roo0roo]

no idea, he's putting out more stuff then anandtech right now.

 

[Dewey]

There was a time where the articles were extremely biased and poorly written.
Things seem to be improving now.

 

[Dark4ng3l]

After 9/11 Tom posted an artical about how AT and Hardocp are like the torrorists of the hardware seen trying to destroy his empire or something of that effect, and he called himself a nazi in that artical as well, witch is apropriate.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
no idea, he's putting out more stuff then anandtech right now.

Well you are a hypocrite, you are visiting a site thats a product of a German but ask everyone boycott ALL German products in your sig

 

[blade]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
no idea, he's putting out more stuff then anandtech right now.

Well you are a hypocrite, you are visiting a site thats a product of a German but ask everyone boycott ALL German products in your sig

Now dats a goot one!

 

[eaadams]

They are GERMANS!!!!!!

Almost as bad as a French site!

If they get behind Iraq then I'd go to toms