why do people need 100fps?

[jaydee]

KevinH,
That link didn't get very much in-depth. The link I have already supplied has given much better detail, and goes into some optometry, which gives you a better idea of how things work. Firing Squad just did a BS argument, and I find it hard to believe anyone found out anything new from it.

For the record, here was the link I orginally posted: http://www.penstarsys.com/editor/30v60/30v60p1.htm

 

[natto fire]

i dont like frames per second so i bought a VooDoo5 5500! It hasn't given me any frames per second problems at all!

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

<< damnit everyone got to my thought first...&quot;penis envy&quot;

we can see 30 fps so 120 fps isn't better than 40..... >>



actully The average human with perfect 20/20 verison can see only 28 frames per sec. So anything over that is useless.


I agree there is no need to have 100FPS those people are just purely in it for the brag vaule.

&quot;huh uuh uh my hard drive is bigger than your hard drive&quot;
pfft whatever. I'm still running a voodoo1 because I can still get 25 FPS on it.

 

[glen]

<< actully The average human with perfect 20/20 verison can see only 28 frames per sec. So anything over that is useless. >>



Way off.

The eye's refresh rate is in the thousands.

The brain is such that we have a hard time detecting the flicker at around 85 hz.
Change your monitor refrsh rate to 65,75 and 85 and I am sure will notice the difference.

Ideally in a game, the fPS does not go below 85 min, so 250avg is not excessive.

 

[V]

Try 60Hz refresh rate. It flickers way more than 75Hz.

 

[SuperCyrix]

check this out, ain't it awesome?



<< In recent view of several findings, the human visual system can detect very small amounts of light (or changes in light). The US Air Force has done tests with their pilots to see how responsive the visual system is. In one experiment a picture of an aircraft was flashed on a screen in a dark room at 1/220th of a second. Pilots were consistently able to &quot;see&quot; the afterimage as well as identify the aircraft. This is a very specific situation though, but it shows how sensitive to light our visual system is. >>

 

[Aenygma]

Didn't read through this thread, but having more FPS also helps in Rocket Jumping...

 

[BP]

<<

<< damnit everyone got to my thought first...&quot;penis envy&quot;

we can see 30 fps so 120 fps isn't better than 40..... >>



actully The average human with perfect 20/20 verison can see only 28 frames per sec. So anything over that is useless. >>



Not entirely true,some people can.Babe Ruth saw the indiviual frames on movies,he said they gave him headaches.



Another reason to get higher frame rates is FPS aren't linear.On TV or movies the rate never changes, but on games the rate goes all over the place depending on what has to be rendered.So if you have 15 bad guys shooting all sorts of things at you in a large open area with lots of light sources and shadows the fps is going to drop like a stone in a well, and that's when you need frames the most.

A bit of choppiness then means b-bye.

 

[jaydee]

For the record:
lowfatbaconboy:

<< we can see 30 fps so 120 fps isn't better than 40..... >>


EvanFerguson:

<< we only see at 30 fps >>


Redwingsguy:

<< we can see up to 200 some fps or something of that figure >>


FFMColbalt:

<< Nope, wrong. We see at 24fps. >>


TheKidd:

<< Actually, the eye can see far more than 24 fps. >>


b00ne:

<< whoever says that the human can only see 24 fps or must be stupid. If it was like that nobody could safely drive a car let alone flying jets at 30m above ground. To test it just set your monitor below 75Hz u will notice it flickers why is that cause usee the switching of the frame so the border must lie around 70-80 Hz what the human can see >>


obiwaynekenobi:

<< actully The average human with perfect 20/20 verison can see only 28 frames per sec. So anything over that is useless. >>


glen:

<< The eye's refresh rate is in the thousands >>


jaydee:

<< It's 72Hz for the average, but everyone is different. I can assume this more valid than anyone elses because its about when the flicker stops on the monitor >>



Someone should have made a poll

 

[SSP]

I see a 30FPS of bull sh!t on this thread.

EDIT - I use &quot;cl_showfps 1&quot; in counterstrike. Its much simpler then net graph.

 

[glen]

<< Someone should have made a poll >>


Or look it up in any biology book.
The proteins in the retina react thousands of times a second.

As far as your eye/brain combo, just change your monitor's refresh rate.
Anyone can see the difference between 60hz, 70hz, and 85hz.

 

[Josh]

someone sent me a 400fps running shot

 

[han888]

70 fps should enough for me

 

[Aihyah]

The 180 degree argument I don't get. What if instead of the current 360 degree unit for a circle, we decide to call 3,600 degrees a full circle and 1,800 degrees a 1/2 circle? Does it follow that we need 1,800 fps to turn around?

supercyrix,

think of it as degree of control. In that 1 second your control depends on fps. at 30 fps your level of control is in 12 degree increments. Not very precise eh? It doesn't matter what you want to call a degree, the level of precision is dependent on fps. Thats why games have mouse smoothing, average out crap like that for low fps.