Why do people love SUVs so much?

[Slew Foot]

I dont need one but Im going to get one anyway. Haha take that.

After having worked in a trauma center, everyone who comes into the ER mangled is driving some crappy econobox. SUV drivers tend to come in with minor scrapes, even when the thing tips over.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: rh71
It's practical when you need it. Mine spent the first half of its life (4.5 years) in the Buffalo snow.. man that was fun. Now I live in the LI burbs and it comes in handy a few months a year with the snow, and Home Depot trips, and my hockey bag (which could fit a human sideways) + sticks, etc. You want to argue about the gas-guzzling ? I don't give @ sh!t I'm spending more... I saw the 12/15mpg sticker when I bought it, thanks. I care about it as much as you care about pollution from any car's exhaust.

I bought this thing in '95 before the SUV craze... it was sporty to me and practical (the Buffalo thing) at the same time. Now people see it and would just think I'm just another SUV-owner clone.... why ? People know jack sh!t and generalize everything as long as it doesn't apply to them. It makes me sick. I'll name names if anyone asks.

Since this is an SUV thread, I'll say it again... you want to argue NEED... you tell me when sports car owners NEED to go 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and how often they do it. You want to argue IMAGE, these owners would be your fvcking target. I hope all of you haters drive econoboxes. G'damned hypocrites.

That's really swell. I'm glad 90% of the country doesn't think like you do...oh wait, they do...or should I say did?

So, because you owned an SUV before the SUV craze it somehow makes you immune to the bashing? Nope, sorry...it doesn't. I'll grant you this, if you live in a snowy climate a 4x4 is nice but I've driven many FWD cars that were much better in the snow than any 4x4 I've ever driven (read SAAB). 4x4 only really helps you to get going which was never a problem driving on paved roads in my SAAB.

In short, I won't hold it against you for owning a 4x4 if you live in a snowy climate but for the rest of the fvcktards in SoCal or pretty much anywhere else that it almost never snows, you people can kiss my ass. You don't NEED an SUV.

Yes we do.

Life sucks without one.

No snowboard trips.
No landscaping.
No home improvement.
No tailgating.
No hauling large electronics that you just bought.
No taking friends out camping.
No firewood.
No planting trees.

Man, life sucks without a SUV.

Oh bullsh!t. I've been a homeowner for 7+ years. I can count the number of times I've needed an SUV or truck on 2 hands. You'd have me believe that it's impossible to do home improvements unless you own an SUV? You're high on crack.

So, you justify purchasing a vehicle that costs $10,000 more than a fullsize sedan or a wagon and gets 7-8mpg worse fuel economy on the off chance that you'll actually use it a few times during the years that you own it? I have one word for you...sucker!!! You're the reason Ford and GM have been floating along in profits for the last 10 years. Pat yourself on the back for you are a sucker!!! You've been had.

Damn dude. Home owner for 7 years and you've only needed a SUV/truck twice per year or less.

Your home and life must really suck. Best of luck to you though.

 

[LandRover]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Yep, I had a Rodeo. I paid $3k for it and it got horrible gas mileage, it was roomy in the back but no moreso than any fullsize sedan and everytime I needed to haul anything larger than a few bags of dirt I needed to hire or borrow a truck from someone else. I think I'm qualified to pass judgement on these vehicles...they suck.

Look, I'm not saying that nobody should own them, just that most people who do own them really don't use them as they are designed to be used. It is clearly a fad and a huge marketing ploy and scam on the consumer. People have been shelling out good money for these ridiculous vehicles for years and I'm glad that the death of the SUV is near.

Sue me. That's how I feel. I'm not going to justify a sports car in this post because at least with a sports car you actually get something for your money other than a few extra sq ft of sheet metal and some carpet.

So owning an old Rodeo that cost you 3 grand is enough to make you qualified to claim that all SUVs suck? Wow, that's brilliant.

The death of the SUV is near? You said it, so it must be true, huh? Smaller Hybrid SUVs that get over 30 MPG are becoming more popular, Einstein.

So having a sports car that gets lousy mileage is just fine and dandy, eh? But owning a 4x4 makes someone the devil? Do you really need all that power? Not unless you're racing. So you better rush out and sell that thing and get a very economic car. Then come back here and rant. Then people might actually listen to your opinions without laughing.

If all SUVs suddenly vanished into thin air, I wonder what would be next on your retarded little checklist.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Sue me. That's how I feel. I'm not going to justify a sports car in this post because at least with a sports car you actually get something for your money other than a few extra sq ft of sheet metal and some carpet.

See, this is why I can't take your arguments with validity. You argue time and time again about NEED yet you won't say anything about needing your sports car. If I start a new thread, would you address it there ?

If I start commenting on how impractical sports cars are because of space and gas mileage and go on to say how infrequently people use them the way they were designed to be used, on roads with speed limits, how does that support the base of your argument which has been NEED or even gas mileage ? You would've been better off getting a family sedan for that family of yours. This self-righteous crap, especially coming from you, is getting ridiculous. Saying "I hate sports cars, sue me" would mean nothing except "I like to make self-serving arguments so I can feel better".

(To be continued tomorrow).

Well, your argument might hold a little more water if 90% of Americans owned sports cars and if sports cars used as much gas as most SUVs do. But they don't...sorry.

SUVs are wasteful and most people own them because they are suckers to marketing...not because they need them. I defy you to argue that even 50% of the people who buy SUVs couldn't be better or equally served by a car. Clearly many people are coming to this realization since SUV sales are dwindling and used car lots are full of them...I guess 100% of the people who have traded them in have come to realize that they don't need them.

Of course, this is just an observation based on current market trends. 😉

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: rh71
It's practical when you need it. Mine spent the first half of its life (4.5 years) in the Buffalo snow.. man that was fun. Now I live in the LI burbs and it comes in handy a few months a year with the snow, and Home Depot trips, and my hockey bag (which could fit a human sideways) + sticks, etc. You want to argue about the gas-guzzling ? I don't give @ sh!t I'm spending more... I saw the 12/15mpg sticker when I bought it, thanks. I care about it as much as you care about pollution from any car's exhaust.

I bought this thing in '95 before the SUV craze... it was sporty to me and practical (the Buffalo thing) at the same time. Now people see it and would just think I'm just another SUV-owner clone.... why ? People know jack sh!t and generalize everything as long as it doesn't apply to them. It makes me sick. I'll name names if anyone asks.

Since this is an SUV thread, I'll say it again... you want to argue NEED... you tell me when sports car owners NEED to go 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and how often they do it. You want to argue IMAGE, these owners would be your fvcking target. I hope all of you haters drive econoboxes. G'damned hypocrites.

That's really swell. I'm glad 90% of the country doesn't think like you do...oh wait, they do...or should I say did?

So, because you owned an SUV before the SUV craze it somehow makes you immune to the bashing? Nope, sorry...it doesn't. I'll grant you this, if you live in a snowy climate a 4x4 is nice but I've driven many FWD cars that were much better in the snow than any 4x4 I've ever driven (read SAAB). 4x4 only really helps you to get going which was never a problem driving on paved roads in my SAAB.

In short, I won't hold it against you for owning a 4x4 if you live in a snowy climate but for the rest of the fvcktards in SoCal or pretty much anywhere else that it almost never snows, you people can kiss my ass. You don't NEED an SUV.

Yes we do.

Life sucks without one.

No snowboard trips.
No landscaping.
No home improvement.
No tailgating.
No hauling large electronics that you just bought.
No taking friends out camping.
No firewood.
No planting trees.

Man, life sucks without a SUV.

Oh bullsh!t. I've been a homeowner for 7+ years. I can count the number of times I've needed an SUV or truck on 2 hands. You'd have me believe that it's impossible to do home improvements unless you own an SUV? You're high on crack.

So, you justify purchasing a vehicle that costs $10,000 more than a fullsize sedan or a wagon and gets 7-8mpg worse fuel economy on the off chance that you'll actually use it a few times during the years that you own it? I have one word for you...sucker!!! You're the reason Ford and GM have been floating along in profits for the last 10 years. Pat yourself on the back for you are a sucker!!! You've been had.

Damn dude. Home owner for 7 years and you've only needed a SUV/truck twice per year or less.

Your home and life must really suck. Best of luck to you though.

Yeah, because pickups, station wagons & minivans can't function in that capacity :roll:

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
SUVs are wasteful and most people own them because they are suckers to marketing...not because they need them. I defy you to argue that even 50% of the people who buy SUVs couldn't be better or equally served by a car. Clearly many people are coming to this realization since SUV sales are dwindling and used car lots are full of them...I guess 100% of the people who have traded them in have come to realize that they don't need them.

Of course, this is just an observation based on current market trends. 😉

*nod* I love how the commercials depict graceful SUVs nimbly handling the offroad situations each one of us encounters daily on our commute to work or on our weekly trips to the grocery store :laugh: But that's what sells, at least to the gullible. And most people are gullible 🙁

 

[LandRover]

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
SUVs are wasteful and most people own them because they are suckers to marketing...not because they need them. I defy you to argue that even 50% of the people who buy SUVs couldn't be better or equally served by a car. Clearly many people are coming to this realization since SUV sales are dwindling and used car lots are full of them...I guess 100% of the people who have traded them in have come to realize that they don't need them.

Of course, this is just an observation based on current market trends. 😉

*nod* I love how the commercials depict graceful SUVs nimbly handling the offroad situations each one of us encounters daily on our commute to work or on our weekly trips to the grocery store :laugh: But that's what sells, at least to the gullible. And most people are gullible 🙁

What about the sports sedan commercials that often feature totally clear roads and they're doing about 120 MPH down Main Street? I guess those same gullible people watch those ads and think "Man, if I get one of those babies, the roads will just open right up for me. I'll get to work so much faster. I gotta get me one of those." Or what about the pickup truck ads where they're dropping some insanely large unidentifiable object into the bed of the truck from a crane? I know a lot of us have cranes in our back yards. And just think of the huge stuff we could dump into the back of one of those trucks!

 

[Rainsford]

Who cares what other people drive? I personally don't like SUVs, I'm more of a sports car guy. Personal choice, who am I to say mine is the right one? The only real reason I can see to bitch about SUVs is the fact that unless you are driving one too, if you get in a car accident with an SUV, you are way more likely to be seriously injured. But then again, people with sports cars tend to drive too fast...which isn't all that safe either.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: LandRover

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
SUVs are wasteful and most people own them because they are suckers to marketing...not because they need them. I defy you to argue that even 50% of the people who buy SUVs couldn't be better or equally served by a car. Clearly many people are coming to this realization since SUV sales are dwindling and used car lots are full of them...I guess 100% of the people who have traded them in have come to realize that they don't need them.

Of course, this is just an observation based on current market trends. 😉

*nod* I love how the commercials depict graceful SUVs nimbly handling the offroad situations each one of us encounters daily on our commute to work or on our weekly trips to the grocery store :laugh: But that's what sells, at least to the gullible. And most people are gullible 🙁

What about the sports sedan commercials that often feature totally clear roads and they're doing about 120 MPH down Main Street? I guess those same gullible people watch those ads and think "Man, if I get one of those babies, the roads will just open right up for me. I'll get to work so much faster. I gotta get me one of those." Or what about the pickup truck ads where they're dropping some insanely large unidentifiable object into the bed of the truck from a crane? I know a lot of us have cranes in our back yards. And just think of the huge stuff we could dump into the back of one of those trucks!

Hehehe, you sorta have a point. Still though, most people who buy sports care are at some point going to roast ricers at stoplights or open them up a bit on a highway... Conversely, most people who buy SUVs are never going to take them offroad unless they have a dirt driveway or shop someplace with a gravel parking lot.

 

[CKent]

dp

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Ornery

1. V8
2. Full frame
3. Easy to access longitudinal mounted engine
4. Elbow and legroom
5. Towing ability
6. Safety
7. Visibility
8. Powerful engine & drive train that never strains
9. RWD cheaper than FWD repairs...

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I hate suv's few people need them and those who buy them but do not need one, are those who seek a sence of power or control over others. Grrrr :evil:

 

[dug777]

You can tow easily, how the fvck else are you supposed to go offroad, high clear driving position, safe if driven responsibly, get the whole family plus dive gear on board, and tow a camper trailer...seem like pretty dam good reasons to own one myself 😛

 

[skyking]

My wife has wanted one since the 80's, and we finally got one. We have loaded it to the gills with stuff several times, way more stuff than we could haul in my camry. We went camping this fall with it, and had a great time. We went as off-road as she could stand< ack! don't go there with my new rig>, many places that the POS camry would never venture. That camry bottoms out on an idea😉
We'll be buying a pop-up camp trailer to tow behind it, and borrow our neighbor's utility trailer to haul materials.
All in all, we are happy with the purchase. it averages 20MPG in a mix of town/highway driving, or all highway over mountain passes with the throttle down. It gets as high as 24MPG if driven conservatively.
In contrast, the '98 camry has never bested 30MPG, and averages 27~28MPG.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: skyking
My wife has wanted one since the 80's, and we finally got one. We have loaded it to the gills with stuff several times, way more stuff than we could haul in my camry. We went camping this fall with it, and had a great time. We went as off-road as she could stand< ack! don't go there with my new rig>, many places that the POS camry would never venture. That camry bottoms out on an idea😉
We'll be buying a pop-up camp trailer to tow behind it, and borrow our neighbor's utility trailer to haul materials.
All in all, we are happy with the purchase. it averages 20MPG in a mix of town/highway driving, or all highway over mountain passes with the throttle down. It gets as high as 24MPG if driven conservatively.
In contrast, the '98 camry has never bested 30MPG, and averages 27~28MPG.

What kind of SUV gets MPG's like that? Most that I know of measure fuel consumtion in GPM- Gallons Per Mile. Seriously what is it?

 

[Tbirdkid]

I go skiing alot in the winter. I go hunting alot in the winter. I go to the beach alot in the summer. I play soccer, i fish, i do lots of stuff. All of which are done nowhere near my house, and i have a mediocre sized family. I am also 6 foot 4 250lbs, and have a dog that weighs around 75 lbs. I also have a 6 month old son, and a 8 year old daughter. My daughter lives in Chesapeake. Thats a long drive for me. I prefer a suv just for plain size and utility wise. I can carry everything i need plus my family. When i go on vacation, i can buy sh1t and not worry about where im going to put it. Such as a garden gnome that is about 4 foot tall (haha, devilsadvocate loves to hump this guy). Try towing a boat with a camry, or a honda accord, or something of that nature.

Sure, i get 20 mpg out of my yukon. That is the default tuning that GM does. No, its not right for my location. It should run leaner, and save more gas... which im working on right now. Not to mention, it needs better exhaust and a better intake. Once all this is done... im golden.

My dodge ram, well, that was a toy. Now i have my motorcycle, i dont need my truck. So, its gone as soon as i can. 14 mpg is terrible and costly.

 

[Shawn]

because they "like to be high"

 

[skyking]

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: skyking
My wife has wanted one since the 80's, and we finally got one. We have loaded it to the gills with stuff several times, way more stuff than we could haul in my camry. We went camping this fall with it, and had a great time. We went as off-road as she could stand< ack! don't go there with my new rig>, many places that the POS camry would never venture. That camry bottoms out on an idea😉
We'll be buying a pop-up camp trailer to tow behind it, and borrow our neighbor's utility trailer to haul materials.
All in all, we are happy with the purchase. it averages 20MPG in a mix of town/highway driving, or all highway over mountain passes with the throttle down. It gets as high as 24MPG if driven conservatively.
In contrast, the '98 camry has never bested 30MPG, and averages 27~28MPG.

What kind of SUV gets MPG's like that? Most that I know of measure fuel consumtion in GPM- Gallons Per Mile. Seriously what is it?

Honda Pilot, rated at 17/22 EPA estimates. The very worst it did on break-in was 17.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Fast? BWAHAHAHA!!! If by fast you mean slow and unsafe then yes, they are fast.

I mean in comparison to vehicles of similar size, like a minivan. Of course it's going to be slower than a sports car.

 

[Loop2kil]

Originally posted by: Ornery

• V8
• Full frame
• Easy to access longitudinal mounted engine
• Elbow and legroom
• Towing ability
• Safety
• Visibility
• Powerful engine & drive train that never strains
• RWD cheaper than FWD repairs...

Well said, I would prefer my wife and child be in one of these if they are ever unfortunate enough to be in an accident.

 

[Overkiller]

Originally posted by: RKS
Why do I love driving an SUV? (Actually I drve a Maxima, my wife has our urban assault vehicle):

Basically my wife likes to talk on her cellphone and can't be bothered with tiny cars getting in her way so we decided to get a large vehicle AND add a bull-bar for added damage points if an econobox gets in the way.

She also shops in bulk and with 10 bags of salt and boxes of bottled water and diapers it is a lot easier to load and unload. More importantly, we both know that mini-vans are emasculating and hideous.

Our large lab (looking to add a second soon) slobers a lot and since we take him everywhere, in the car we like to keep him at a distance.

We are expecting our second child in a few weeks and going on a short trip/hiking/biking with equipment and assorted baby gear takes up a lot space.

Anyway I couldn't care less about gas mileage as long as we are safe and comfortable.

edit: Yes we are both extremely insecure so an SUV was our only choice. 😀

The only honest person here

 

[Overkiller]

Originally posted by: Loop2kil

Originally posted by: Ornery

• V8
• Full frame
• Easy to access longitudinal mounted engine
• Elbow and legroom
• Towing ability
• Safety
• Visibility
• Powerful engine & drive train that never strains
• RWD cheaper than FWD repairs...

Well said, I would prefer my wife and child be in one of these if they are ever unfortunate enough to be in an accident.

The slippery slope argument is the worse such argument created but boy did the SUV marketers exploit it. Over half of SUV owners are females.

There is no need for mr. soccer mom to drive her Excursion XLT DUALLIE MONSTER TRUCK. Especially while she is on the phone and her vehicle is so large she runs me off my road b/c heavnes no she is kind enough to go off the pavement on the small roads I live on in her OFF-ROADING VEHICLE.

🙂

 

[geek4life]

SUV=sign of wealth. Lots of leg room. It's an american thing to have everything big, the bigger the better.

 

[Overkiller]

Originally posted by: geek4life
SUV=sign of wealth. Lots of leg room. It's an american thing to have everything big, the bigger the better.

I can't wait until we can get bionic penii.

Mine will have SPINNAS!!!!!

 

[geek4life]

Honestly, I really don't see any difference between driving SUV as opposed to having 10gig of RAM or 5.0GHz processor or $500 video card to play Solitaire. The only complain i have for SUV drivers is they stealing all the gas from me.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Sue me. That's how I feel. I'm not going to justify a sports car in this post because at least with a sports car you actually get something for your money other than a few extra sq ft of sheet metal and some carpet.

See, this is why I can't take your arguments with validity. You argue time and time again about NEED yet you won't say anything about needing your sports car. If I start a new thread, would you address it there ?

If I start commenting on how impractical sports cars are because of space and gas mileage and go on to say how infrequently people use them the way they were designed to be used, on roads with speed limits, how does that support the base of your argument which has been NEED or even gas mileage ? You would've been better off getting a family sedan for that family of yours. This self-righteous crap, especially coming from you, is getting ridiculous. Saying "I hate sports cars, sue me" would mean nothing except "I like to make self-serving arguments so I can feel better".

(To be continued tomorrow).

Well, your argument might hold a little more water if 90% of Americans owned sports cars and if sports cars used as much gas as most SUVs do. But they don't...sorry.

SUVs are wasteful and most people own them because they are suckers to marketing...not because they need them. I defy you to argue that even 50% of the people who buy SUVs couldn't be better or equally served by a car. Clearly many people are coming to this realization since SUV sales are dwindling and used car lots are full of them...I guess 100% of the people who have traded them in have come to realize that they don't need them.

Of course, this is just an observation based on current market trends. 😉

hold on, you're saying that just because not a lot of people own sports cars it means those who do own them are justified in doing so ? Or are you saying it's not a worry because of it ?

Talk about an argument holding water. :laugh: How many times have you bolded need yet you're unwilling to address it even for a second with the vehicle type you own ? I mean, that's the whole point YOU are arguing here - NEED. Hey family man, you drive an STi. Your logic and obvious self-serving arguments are pathetic.