Why do people hate on Christians so much?

[alimoalem]

i don't hate on groups - i just dislike certain people associated with the groups. there are a couple exceptions (devil worshippers, etc.). i haven't read through the thread (TOOOOOOOO LONG) so if someone's already said this then oh well. my answer is that christianity is currently the largest religion (Islam has almost caught up). both of these get hated on. it's kind of like mc donalds and the fast food industry. mc donalds gets hated on cause it's the biggest one. walmart also comes to mind. need more examples? when something is wrong or when a group generally dislikes something, i guess they for the "biggest fish" in the category and make it look bad

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I'm an Atheist and I don't hate the vast majority of Christians. Granted some of them annoy the hell out of me (read Funda Mental Cases) and I wish they'd mind their own business.

have you been an atheist your whole life or are you a convert?

Convert? How do you convert into not believing Fairy Tales?

Good example of how many atheists drive me nuts because they will bash or otherwise attack religion at every possible moment, and do so for apparently no reason.

Would it really be too difficult to answer the question without being insulting or otherwise negative?

So it's an attack because I believe that religion is nothing more than a fairy tale? That's just my opinion. If stating my opinion drive you nuts then I think you have some deep seated emotional problems.

You did not give your opinion, but rather you took the opportunity to slander somebody's beliefs. Calling religious beliefs "fairy tales" implies a rather negative, and childish, opinion. You could have just as easily replaced "fairy tales" with the words "faith" or "religion" or "God" or whatever.

Instead you methodically chose to use a phrase which implies a belittling nature. Again, would it have been so difficult of you to answer the question without belittling a concept that many people hold dear? Is that too much to ask for?

If you can not, or choose not, to understand this then I think this speaks volumes about your character.

You may want to look up the definition of "tact."

Blah,blah,blah blah....Give me your paypal info and I'll send you$.35 so you can call someone who gives a damn.

Why are you being so hateful? You're an unhappy person, and you know it. I know you'll deny it, but that's only because it hurts you even more to face the reality of your sadness.

I'm an open-minded guy. Prove to me why God doesn't exist. PM me if you don't want a mature debate to turn into a public fight.

Hateful, unhappy? You got that from my posts? Wow you're good:roll:

Actually the truth of the matter is I don't like being lectured by some know nothing for expressing my opinion. If you were to read my first post you'd see where I said I didn't hate Christians at all and that the vast majority of my friends are Christian, just that I find some Christians like Babbles extremely annoying. I don't see where thinking of religions (not just Christianity) as nothing more than Fairy Tales is being hateful, after all don't most people find Fairy Tales enjoyable? Hey if you don't agree that they are Fairy Tales that's fine with me, I haven't any qualms about it as long as you don't expect me to agree with you. If you object to me labeling them as Fairy Tales then how about Myths. That's how Christians label other religions, especially those of the Ancients.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

There are various levels of "believing" in the Bible. I don't believe the world was created in 7 days or even 7 eras, but rather, it serves as a moral story to teach lessons about God and the spiritual world, which can't be approached through reason alone.

Kind of like Fairy Tales!

 

[loic2003]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

There are various levels of "believing" in the Bible. I don't believe the world was created in 7 days or even 7 eras, but rather, it serves as a moral story to teach lessons about God and the spiritual world, which can't be approached through reason alone

So, you pick and choose which bits you like, and follow those, but ignore all the sections you don't like, such as offering your daughter to be raped over any harm coming to your son, etc.
Why not just ditch the religion completely since you've already started to think for yourself and make your own informed decisions using your intelligence? Or, if you really want to pick sections you like from a book and live your life by them, why not pick any book you fancy?


See, I regard the religious with contempt because I see them as hypocritical and intellectually immature. How would you regard a fully grown man who still believes in santa at 25 years of age?
Exactly.

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I'm an Atheist and I don't hate the vast majority of Christians. Granted some of them annoy the hell out of me (read Funda Mental Cases) and I wish they'd mind their own business.

have you been an atheist your whole life or are you a convert?

Convert? How do you convert into not believing Fairy Tales?

Good example of how many atheists drive me nuts because they will bash or otherwise attack religion at every possible moment, and do so for apparently no reason.

Would it really be too difficult to answer the question without being insulting or otherwise negative?

So it's an attack because I believe that religion is nothing more than a fairy tale? That's just my opinion. If stating my opinion drive you nuts then I think you have some deep seated emotional problems.

You did not give your opinion, but rather you took the opportunity to slander somebody's beliefs. Calling religious beliefs "fairy tales" implies a rather negative, and childish, opinion. You could have just as easily replaced "fairy tales" with the words "faith" or "religion" or "God" or whatever.

Instead you methodically chose to use a phrase which implies a belittling nature. Again, would it have been so difficult of you to answer the question without belittling a concept that many people hold dear? Is that too much to ask for?

If you can not, or choose not, to understand this then I think this speaks volumes about your character.

You may want to look up the definition of "tact."

Blah,blah,blah blah....Give me your paypal info and I'll send you$.35 so you can call someone who gives a damn.

Why are you being so hateful? You're an unhappy person, and you know it. I know you'll deny it, but that's only because it hurts you even more to face the reality of your sadness.

I'm an open-minded guy. Prove to me why God doesn't exist. PM me if you don't want a mature debate to turn into a public fight.

Hateful, unhappy? You got that from my posts? Wow you're good:roll:

Actually the truth of the matter is I don't like being lectured by some know nothing for expressing my opinion. If you were to read my first post you'd see where I said I didn't hate Christians at all and that the vast majority of my friends are Christian, just that I find some Christians like Babbles extremely annoying. I don't see where thinking of religions (not just Christianity) as nothing more than Fairy Tales is being hateful, after all don't most people find Fairy Tales enjoyable? Hey if you don't agree that they are Fairy Tales that's fine with me, I haven't any qualms about it as long as you don't expect me to agree with you. If you object to me labeling them as Fairy Tales then how about Myths. That's how Christians label other religions, especially those of the Ancients.

Need to run off to work, but thought I would take a moment and address one little point.

I don't consider myself a Christian.

With that being said regardless of my personal beliefs I still think it is immature and weak to disparagingly attack a person's belief set, be it Christian or other. You have no tact and are a very closed-minded individual and yes you do harbor a sense of anger/hate - your inability to answer a simple question without belittling it is perfect evidence. Your incessant closed-minded opinion would be more evidence (you don't even know my personal beliefs, but you will just make assumptions and attack them anyhow). You may not think of yourself in such a way, but the words that represent you tell a different story.

Here is a life strategy: Just because you are not a member of the group (e.g. Christianity or whatever religion you are not a part of) doesn't mean you should talk ill of said group. How can anybody be expected to respect you when you don't bother to respect others? (and I am sure here will enter the "Soandso disrespected me first" argument that is by it's nature quite childish)

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Actually the truth of the matter is I don't like being lectured by some know nothing for expressing my opinion. If you were to read my first post you'd see where I said I didn't hate Christians at all and that the vast majority of my friends are Christian, just that I find some Christians like Babbles extremely annoying. I don't see where thinking of religions (not just Christianity) as nothing more than Fairy Tales is being hateful, after all don't most people find Fairy Tales enjoyable? Hey if you don't agree that they are Fairy Tales that's fine with me, I haven't any qualms about it as long as you don't expect me to agree with you. If you object to me labeling them as Fairy Tales then how about Myths. That's how Christians label other religions, especially those of the Ancients.

Need to run off to work, but thought I would take a moment and address one little point.

I don't consider myself a Christian.

With that being said regardless of my personal beliefs I still think it is immature and weak to disparagingly attack a person's belief set, be it Christian or other. You have no tact and are a very closed-minded individual and yes you do harbor a sense of anger/hate - your inability to answer a simple question without belittling it is perfect evidence. Your incessant closed-minded opinion would be more evidence (you don't even know my personal beliefs, but you will just make assumptions and attack them anyhow). You may not think of yourself in such a way, but the words that represent you tell a different story.

Here is a life strategy: Just because you are not a member of the group (e.g. Christianity or whatever religion you are not a part of) doesn't mean you should talk ill of said group. How can anybody be expected to respect you when you don't bother to respect others? (and I am sure here will enter the "Soandso disrespected me first" argument that is by it's nature quite childish)

If stating that I think Religion is nothing more than Fairy Tales is your definition of hate or being deragatory then that's your problem not mine. From my perspective I don't see it as being hateful at all. I also don't see it as talking ill of any group.

The only hatred I see is from those that hate that I see Religion as nothing more than Fairy Tales or Myths.

Have a nice day at work.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Actually the truth of the matter is I don't like being lectured by some know nothing for expressing my opinion. If you were to read my first post you'd see where I said I didn't hate Christians at all and that the vast majority of my friends are Christian, just that I find some Christians like Babbles extremely annoying. I don't see where thinking of religions (not just Christianity) as nothing more than Fairy Tales is being hateful, after all don't most people find Fairy Tales enjoyable? Hey if you don't agree that they are Fairy Tales that's fine with me, I haven't any qualms about it as long as you don't expect me to agree with you. If you object to me labeling them as Fairy Tales then how about Myths. That's how Christians label other religions, especially those of the Ancients.

Need to run off to work, but thought I would take a moment and address one little point.

I don't consider myself a Christian.

With that being said regardless of my personal beliefs I still think it is immature and weak to disparagingly attack a person's belief set, be it Christian or other. You have no tact and are a very closed-minded individual and yes you do harbor a sense of anger/hate - your inability to answer a simple question without belittling it is perfect evidence. Your incessant closed-minded opinion would be more evidence (you don't even know my personal beliefs, but you will just make assumptions and attack them anyhow). You may not think of yourself in such a way, but the words that represent you tell a different story.

Here is a life strategy: Just because you are not a member of the group (e.g. Christianity or whatever religion you are not a part of) doesn't mean you should talk ill of said group. How can anybody be expected to respect you when you don't bother to respect others? (and I am sure here will enter the "Soandso disrespected me first" argument that is by it's nature quite childish)

If stating that I think Religion is nothing more than Fairy Tales is your definition of hate or being deragatory then that's your problem not mine. From my perspective I don't see it as being hateful at all. I also don't see it as talking ill of any group.

The only hatred I see is from those that hate that I see Religion as nothing more than Fairy Tales or Myths.

Have a nice day at work.

I'll tell you a ferry tale ,last time I went up to see the kids, I took the Port Townsend ferry across to Bainbridge Island was about a 45 minute ride. Water was calm and the sun was shining.
The end

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: kogase
People, especially Americans, hate anyone who tries to tell them what to do, or tells them they know what's best for them. Christians are very loud on this front, whether they are doing door-to-door proselytising or wide-scale political activism. Of course many people who say they hate Christians are making major generalizations. Episcopalians, for example, are very different from Southern Baptists.

I'm Catholic, and we don't do any "door to door" stuff. In fact, we go to church, help the community, and try to be nice to each other. Yet, people focus on the small percentage of negative stuff that's happening in the church instead.

Our religion's baseline rule is "Love your fellow man", and we're getting crap about it. I don't get it.

The problem is your Priests are taking "Love your fellow man" to literally. Frankly I think in the case of Catholics it's the Church not the followers that are getting the bulk of the criticism, a lot of it from Catholics themselves.

BTW do you realize than a lot of Fundies don't even consider you guys Christian and consider your Church the "Whore of Babylon"?

I don't see how they could say that...Catholicism is the original Christian religion. Every other one branched off of Catholicism.

 

[DaShen]

Because too many Christians are so brainwashed into believeing that anything labeled as Christian behavior, material, belief is therefore totally true. Most of them cannot even back up there claims with Biblically grounded teaching (they may take a few quotes here and there and take them out of context though).

More than half of the Christians I know, don't really spend the time to understand what and why they believe what they do, and take blind ignorance as "blind faith" (which are polar opposites IMO). It pisses me off because they cannot use logic and concrete Biblical evidence to support what they believe, but because it is labeled as "Christian" by political / power hungry people, they will support it whole-heartedly.

 

[tigerslicer]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: kogase
People, especially Americans, hate anyone who tries to tell them what to do, or tells them they know what's best for them. Christians are very loud on this front, whether they are doing door-to-door proselytising or wide-scale political activism. Of course many people who say they hate Christians are making major generalizations. Episcopalians, for example, are very different from Southern Baptists.

I'm Catholic, and we don't do any "door to door" stuff. In fact, we go to church, help the community, and try to be nice to each other. Yet, people focus on the small percentage of negative stuff that's happening in the church instead.

Our religion's baseline rule is "Love your fellow man", and we're getting crap about it. I don't get it.

The problem is your Priests are taking "Love your fellow man" to literally. Frankly I think in the case of Catholics it's the Church not the followers that are getting the bulk of the criticism, a lot of it from Catholics themselves.

BTW do you realize than a lot of Fundies don't even consider you guys Christian and consider your Church the "Whore of Babylon"?

I don't see how they could say that...Catholicism is the original Christian religion. Every other one branched off of Catholicism.

not true
mormonism is not a branch or catholicism

also I dont like how everyone is talking about bad things about the catholic church and saying that all christianity is bad for the things catholics have done. Not all christians are catholics.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: BigJ
A similar question should be proposed to the atheists. Prove that a higher being does not exist. They cannot.

That's now how it works. The claim is the existence of a deity, thus the burden of proof lies only with the religious

Lack of proof of existence != proof of non-existence.

Again, proof of nonexistence is not required... it's damn good evidence though, think about it. Religion has been and continues to be the most important thing there is to our species - and yet over thousands of years, billions of people haven't managed to turn up a single shred of evidence.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: BigJ
A similar question should be proposed to the atheists. Prove that a higher being does not exist. They cannot.

That's now how it works. The claim is the existence of a deity, thus the burden of proof lies only with the religious

Lack of proof of existence != proof of non-existence.

Again, proof of nonexistence is not required... it's damn good evidence though, think about it. Religion has been and continues to be the most important thing there is to our species - and yet over thousands of years, billions of people haven't managed to turn up a single shred of evidence.

Since non-belief in a god is the newer theory of the two, actually proof would seem to work both ways. But I understand that through Predicate Cal the above is the case.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: BigJ
A similar question should be proposed to the atheists. Prove that a higher being does not exist. They cannot.

That's now how it works. The claim is the existence of a deity, thus the burden of proof lies only with the religious

Lack of proof of existence != proof of non-existence.

Again, proof of nonexistence is not required... it's damn good evidence though, think about it. Religion has been and continues to be the most important thing there is to our species - and yet over thousands of years, billions of people haven't managed to turn up a single shred of evidence.

Since non-belief in a god is the newer theory of the two, actually proof would seem to work both ways. But I understand that through Predicate Cal the above is the case.

By this logic there exists no such thing as fact.

 

[DougK62]

ATOT does not represent the general public.

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: PowerEngineer

Well, personally I do not hate Christians -- I fear them.

All groups that require members to accept without question the teaching of their leaders make me uneasy. So-called "organized religions" worries me most of all because "faith" can be involked by their members as a shield against all rational discussion. I worry that the upswing in fundamentalist Christian groups is moving us toward a less tolerant religious oligarchy here in the United States. We can see what this looks like in the Middle East.

This is the most perfect reply ever.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: PowerEngineer

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: PowerEngineer

Well, personally I do not hate Christians -- I fear them.

All groups that require members to accept without question the teaching of their leaders make me uneasy. So-called "organized religions" worries me most of all because "faith" can be involked by their members as a shield against all rational discussion. I worry that the upswing in fundamentalist Christian groups is moving us toward a less tolerant religious oligarchy here in the United States. We can see what this looks like in the Middle East.

you are out of your fvckin mind.

Well, I always wondered how someone could compile over 24000 posts. I gather that your strategy has been to dash off thoughtless insults whenever someone expresses an opinion that is at odds with your own. I suggest you try something new and use "your fvkin mind" before posting again.

don't tell me what to do.
and the smack talk about post count ranks up there with questioning reading comprehension and calling out someone's spelling. good job.

 

[BudAshes2]

Its cause they are easy pickens

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: PowerEngineer

Well, personally I do not hate Christians -- I fear them.

All groups that require members to accept without question the teaching of their leaders make me uneasy. So-called "organized religions" worries me most of all because "faith" can be involked by their members as a shield against all rational discussion. I worry that the upswing in fundamentalist Christian groups is moving us toward a less tolerant religious oligarchy here in the United States. We can see what this looks like in the Middle East.

This is the most perfect reply ever.

except for a couple of small details number one it very loudly says that he has never been an active member of a church because he doesn't understand even in the slightest how ridiculous this statement is: All groups that require members to accept without question the teaching of their leaders make me uneasy.

#1) Any church has a very basic statement of articles of what they believe (ie: Jesus died upon the cross and was ressurected in three days for the atonement of our sins (might be a common one)) and if someone becomes a member they probably get to see it, but beyond that there is really a very wide range of opinions about scripture and the degree of importance a person places on a particular passage. Opinions about various social issues can often vary also. People disagreeing with a pastor on something can happen quite often also.

#2 thinking that anybody wants a christian version of the middle east is just lunacy.:roll:

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: tigerslicer

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: kogase
People, especially Americans, hate anyone who tries to tell them what to do, or tells them they know what's best for them. Christians are very loud on this front, whether they are doing door-to-door proselytising or wide-scale political activism. Of course many people who say they hate Christians are making major generalizations. Episcopalians, for example, are very different from Southern Baptists.

I'm Catholic, and we don't do any "door to door" stuff. In fact, we go to church, help the community, and try to be nice to each other. Yet, people focus on the small percentage of negative stuff that's happening in the church instead.

Our religion's baseline rule is "Love your fellow man", and we're getting crap about it. I don't get it.

The problem is your Priests are taking "Love your fellow man" to literally. Frankly I think in the case of Catholics it's the Church not the followers that are getting the bulk of the criticism, a lot of it from Catholics themselves.

BTW do you realize than a lot of Fundies don't even consider you guys Christian and consider your Church the "Whore of Babylon"?

I don't see how they could say that...Catholicism is the original Christian religion. Every other one branched off of Catholicism.

not true
mormonism is not a branch or catholicism

also I dont like how everyone is talking about bad things about the catholic church and saying that all christianity is bad for the things catholics have done. Not all christians are catholics.

Again another obvious statement of ignorance. :roll: Mormonism is not even christianity at all. Any more then Jehovas witnesses, or moonies, or scientology, or christian science.

these are all considered religious cults and thier teachings differ quite a bit from mainstream Christianity.

 

[CStan]

Wow my thread is still alive? Thanks for keeping the conversation civilized!

 

[randay]

After reading about 8 pages and only finding a couple of truly informative posts, I can honestly say, that I hate you all. Thank you, good day.

 

[tigerslicer]

Originally posted by: daniel49

Originally posted by: tigerslicer

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: kogase
People, especially Americans, hate anyone who tries to tell them what to do, or tells them they know what's best for them. Christians are very loud on this front, whether they are doing door-to-door proselytising or wide-scale political activism. Of course many people who say they hate Christians are making major generalizations. Episcopalians, for example, are very different from Southern Baptists.

I'm Catholic, and we don't do any "door to door" stuff. In fact, we go to church, help the community, and try to be nice to each other. Yet, people focus on the small percentage of negative stuff that's happening in the church instead.

Our religion's baseline rule is "Love your fellow man", and we're getting crap about it. I don't get it.

The problem is your Priests are taking "Love your fellow man" to literally. Frankly I think in the case of Catholics it's the Church not the followers that are getting the bulk of the criticism, a lot of it from Catholics themselves.

BTW do you realize than a lot of Fundies don't even consider you guys Christian and consider your Church the "Whore of Babylon"?

I don't see how they could say that...Catholicism is the original Christian religion. Every other one branched off of Catholicism.

not true
mormonism is not a branch or catholicism

also I dont like how everyone is talking about bad things about the catholic church and saying that all christianity is bad for the things catholics have done. Not all christians are catholics.

Again another obvious statement of ignorance. :roll: Mormonism is not even christianity at all. Any more then Jehovas witnesses, or moonies, or scientology, or christian science.

these are all considered religious cults and thier teachings differ quite a bit from mainstream Christianity.

You are calling me ignorant?
Christianity is believing in jesus as the savior. Mormons believe this. Thus they are christian. And where the heck do you get that mormonism is a cult. It has just as much validity as any other religion.

EDIT: I read some more and mormonism can be considered a cult to/in relation to mainstream christians/christianity but that does not make it a cult to/in relation to the world in general. Mainstream christians believe taht religions that believe in additional revelation in conjuction with the bible to be cults. This does not make mormonism more of a cult than any other religion to anyone but mainstream christians.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: tigerslicerYou are calling me ignorant?
Christianity is believing in jesus as the savior. Mormons believe this. Thus they are christian. And where the heck do you get that mormonism is a cult. It has just as much validity as any other religion.

there can be only one?

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: tigerslicer

Originally posted by: daniel49

Originally posted by: tigerslicer

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: kogase
People, especially Americans, hate anyone who tries to tell them what to do, or tells them they know what's best for them. Christians are very loud on this front, whether they are doing door-to-door proselytising or wide-scale political activism. Of course many people who say they hate Christians are making major generalizations. Episcopalians, for example, are very different from Southern Baptists.

I'm Catholic, and we don't do any "door to door" stuff. In fact, we go to church, help the community, and try to be nice to each other. Yet, people focus on the small percentage of negative stuff that's happening in the church instead.

Our religion's baseline rule is "Love your fellow man", and we're getting crap about it. I don't get it.

The problem is your Priests are taking "Love your fellow man" to literally. Frankly I think in the case of Catholics it's the Church not the followers that are getting the bulk of the criticism, a lot of it from Catholics themselves.

BTW do you realize than a lot of Fundies don't even consider you guys Christian and consider your Church the "Whore of Babylon"?

I don't see how they could say that...Catholicism is the original Christian religion. Every other one branched off of Catholicism.

not true
mormonism is not a branch or catholicism

also I dont like how everyone is talking about bad things about the catholic church and saying that all christianity is bad for the things catholics have done. Not all christians are catholics.

Again another obvious statement of ignorance. :roll: Mormonism is not even christianity at all. Any more then Jehovas witnesses, or moonies, or scientology, or christian science.

these are all considered religious cults and thier teachings differ quite a bit from mainstream Christianity.

You are calling me ignorant? Your statement was untrue and therefore based in ignorance. further you did some research and found that I was right. Good for you🙂Christianity is believing in jesus as the savior. Mormons believe this. No, salvation to Mormons is a combination of church membership and missons, not faith in Christ.Thus they are christian. They are a religion not Christian however And where the heck do you get that mormonism is a cult. It has just as much validity as any other religion.

EDIT: I read some more and mormonism can be considered a cult to/in relation to mainstream christians/christianity again kudos to you for educating yourself but that does not make it a cult to/in relation to the world in general. I'm not sure what that means so I can neither agree with it or disagree Mainstream christians believe taht religions that believe in additional revelation in conjuction with the bible to be cults. This does not make mormonism more of a cult than any other religion to anyone but mainstream christians.

And I am not sure why It would matter to anyone but mainstream christians either most unbelievers would not know the difference but your talking apples and oranges.
Does that mean thier wicked, immoral, evil people...No, it just means they are not Christian.

 

[randay]

Its easy to call people ignorant for this is a discussion board, not a fact telling contest. Calling someone ignorant is just a roundabout way of telling someone they are stupid. I notice it is used a lot on these boards.

It would probably be better if you just told people they were wrong.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

edits: reading your post before posting 4tw.