Why do people call pizza "pie"?

[Viperoni]

Threw me off when I went to NYC and the pizza guy taking my order asked me what I wanted on my pizza pie.

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[thawolfman]

Where's DrPizza when you need him...

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Viperoni
Threw me off when I went to NYC and the pizza guy taking my order asked me what I wanted on my pizza pie.

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I'm from NJ and went to college in Indiana and some of my friends thought it was odd when I asked if they wanted to get a pie for dinner. Maybe it's a soda/pop kind of thing.

 

[Juno]

in NJ, people call pie instead of pizza.

do you want a slice of pie?

 

[So]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Because its circumfirance is still 3.14 times its diameter.

Pizza pi. :laugh:

I don't get the square slices though.

:laugh::thumbsup:

 

[moshquerade]

don't Italians call it pizza pie?

"when the moon hits your eye
like a big pizza pie..."

 

[Al Neri]

City: Mammoth



Province/State: Wyoming

that explains enough

 

[Al Neri]

in all seriousness,

this is pure speculation.

in my family at easter dinner we have among other things, Pizza Rustica also called Easter Pie, which is like a pie filled with ricotta, salami, prosciutto, eggs, etc.

I assume that pizza is a derivative from that and thats where you get the term pizza pie.

probably not too much italian culture up there in Wyoming eh?

 

[J Heartless Slick]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
People seem to relish calling pizzas "pies"... yet there is nothing pielike about a pizza except that it's round. Whenever someone does that, I picture a sweet blueberry pie. It completely turns me off of the pizza and I want pie instead. You might as well refer to chicken as "ice cream". I'd have been pissed if I was at KFC ordering chicken and the cashier asked me if wanted crispy or original recipe ice cream.

Also, a pizza doesn't fit the definition of a pie.

A pie is a baked dish with a pastry shell that covers or completely contains a filling of meat, fish, vegetables, fruit, cheeses, creams, chocolate, custards, nuts, or other sweet or savoury ingredient. Pies can be either 'one-crust', where the filling is placed in a dish and covered with a pastry top before baking, or 'two-crust', with the filling completely enclosed in the pastry shell. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pie


People, until you put a crust on top of your pizza, stop calling it a pie! Stop torturing me!


Edit: Also, cheesecake is not a cake. It's some sweet cheeselike substance in a pie crust. If you say "I like cheesecake" what you should really be saying is "I like sweet cheeslike substance with some crumbs".

When I was a kid I heard an Italian pizza maker call it a "pizza pie". I call it "pizza" and have not heard anyone call it "pizza pie" in a long time

 

[Sc4freak]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Because its circumfirance is still 3.14 times its diameter.

Pizza pi. :laugh:

I don't get the square slices though.

Haha, I saw that one coming! :laugh:

 

[Al Neri]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
People seem to relish calling pizzas "pies"... yet there is nothing pielike about a pizza except that it's round. Whenever someone does that, I picture a sweet blueberry pie. It completely turns me off of the pizza and I want pie instead. You might as well refer to chicken as "ice cream". I'd have been pissed if I was at KFC ordering chicken and the cashier asked me if wanted crispy or original recipe ice cream.

Also, a pizza doesn't fit the definition of a pie.

A pie is a baked dish with a pastry shell that covers or completely contains a filling of meat, fish, vegetables, fruit, cheeses, creams, chocolate, custards, nuts, or other sweet or savoury ingredient. Pies can be either 'one-crust', where the filling is placed in a dish and covered with a pastry top before baking, or 'two-crust', with the filling completely enclosed in the pastry shell. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pie


People, until you put a crust on top of your pizza, stop calling it a pie! Stop torturing me!


Edit: Also, cheesecake is not a cake. It's some sweet cheeselike substance in a pie crust. If you say "I like cheesecake" what you should really be saying is "I like sweet cheeslike substance with some crumbs".

now that i think about it. this post is retarded. different people have regional dialects... wtf is a grinder, what is being grinded? wtf is a sub, does it go underwater? etc.

U=TehSuck!

 

[misle]

pie, meat, fish, fowl, fruit, or vegetables baked with a crust of pastry, or pastry shells filled with custard or pudding. The pies of the Romans, especially at banquets in the days of the empire, were often elaborate concoctions, such as the showpieces in which were enclosed live birds. In England meat and fish pies had become common by the 14th cent., and fruit pies, often called tarts, by the 16th cent. The mince pie was an important feature of the Christmas festivities and was called ?superstitious? pie by the Puritans in protest against what seemed to them a pagan manner of celebrating a holy feast. The mincemeat filling was a finely chopped, cooked mixture including raisins, currants, apples, suet, sugar, spice, and often meat, brandy or cider, candied peel, and other ingredients. The English settlers in North America retained their taste for pie and adapted it to their new conditions, creating the pumpkin and the cranberry pies. Pie has remained a popular dessert in the United States. In Italy, pie, or pizza, consists, in its most basic form, of a spread of dough covered with tomatoes and mozzarella cheese and baked in an oven.

Link

 

[funboy6942]

What about the ones made with fruit topping?
What about a stuffed Pizza Pie with a top and bottom layer of crust with filling inside????????????

 

[Cristatus]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
I've devoured many a delicous pie that does not include crust across the top. Pumpkin, pecan, key lime, the list of tasty pies mercanucaribe denies the existence of is tragically immense!

Yet another example of why only the gullible should treat the contents of wiki as gospel.

Speaking of which, did you know that there is no entry for the word "gullible" in wiki?

Because it's an encyclopedia. If you want definitions, look it up in the wiktionary.

 

[GeneValgene]

"You wanna go halves on a pie?"

 

[frankgomez75]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Pie- has crust
Pizza- has crust
CHECK!

Pie- has filling AND/OR TOPPINGS ie: Lemon Merengue Pie, Pecan Pie
Pizza- has toppings just like Lemon Merengue and Pecan Pie
CHECK!

Pie- is baked
Pizza- is baked
CHECK!

Pie- is yummy
Pizza- is yummy
CHECK!

Pie- Can be eaten warm or cold
Pizza- Can be eaten warm or cold
CHECK!

So, Pizza meets 5/5 criteria for Pie. PIZZA PIE!!!!

Fixed.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
don't Italians call it pizza pie?

"when the moon hits your eye
like a big pizza pie..."

Pizza isn't Italian + Dean Martin was always drunk, so you can't use him as a reliable source.

I'm with the pie theory though.

 

[dullard]

Tart definition "A pastry shell with shallow sides, no top crust, and any of various fillings."

A pizza: a pastry shell with shallow sides, no top crust, and any of various fillings. Hmm, a pizza fits the defintion of a tart exactly.

Pie definition "A baked food composed of a pastry shell filled with fruit, meat, cheese, or other ingredients, and usually covered with a pastry crust."

Pizza: baked, pastry shell, feilled with meat and cheese, and can be covered with a pastry crust. Seems like it fits the definition of pie. However, pizza is usually uncovered, while pies are usually covered. But neither has to be that way.

Pizza definition: "A baked pie of Italian origin consisting of a shallow breadlike crust covered with seasoned tomato sauce, cheese, and often other toppings, such as sausage or olives."

So, this is what we know.
(1) A pizza is a pizza.
(2) A pizza is a form of a pie.
(3) A pizza is a form of a tart.
(4) A cat is a form of a mammal.
(5) Only a moron would say "I want a cat mammal". They should simply state "I want a cat". The "mammal" part is redundant and unnecessary.
(6) Only a moron would say "I want a pizza pie". They should simply state "I want a pizza". The "pie" part is redundant and unnecessary.

 

[technorazzi]

because of Dean Maritn!?!?

"Pizza is a baked pie of Italian origin consisting of a shallow bread-like crust covered with seasoned tomato sauce, cheese, and often other toppings such as sausage or olive. The world pizza is believed to be from an Old Italian word meaning "a point," which in turn became the Italian word "pizzicare," which means "to pinch" or "pluck."

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: misle
pie, meat, fish, fowl, fruit, or vegetables baked with a crust of pastry, or pastry shells filled with custard or pudding. The pies of the Romans, especially at banquets in the days of the empire, were often elaborate concoctions, such as the showpieces in which were enclosed live birds. In England meat and fish pies had become common by the 14th cent., and fruit pies, often called tarts, by the 16th cent. The mince pie was an important feature of the Christmas festivities and was called ?superstitious? pie by the Puritans in protest against what seemed to them a pagan manner of celebrating a holy feast. The mincemeat filling was a finely chopped, cooked mixture including raisins, currants, apples, suet, sugar, spice, and often meat, brandy or cider, candied peel, and other ingredients. The English settlers in North America retained their taste for pie and adapted it to their new conditions, creating the pumpkin and the cranberry pies. Pie has remained a popular dessert in the United States. In Italy, pie, or pizza, consists, in its most basic form, of a spread of dough covered with tomatoes and mozzarella cheese and baked in an oven.

Link

I'll accept that as a valid reason to call a pizza a pie.

 

[Injury]

Why do we even call it "pizza"?

 

[Al Neri]

i kno, like why do we use words or speak, or communicate??

this thread is broken i think.

 

[SilthDraeth]

I am not 100% sure if this is said, but the OP did mention cheesecake as an example.

Pumpkin pie does not have a crust on top, cheesecake is more akin to pie if pumpkin pie is a pie. Lemon Meringue Pie has a custard top, so technically it really isn't a pie either. IMO all pie's should have a crust on top, not just a pie shell on the bottom.

As I am replying I notice that there is a post stating that North Americans adopted pie to include pumpkin, and cranberry pies, so on that note then a pizza can fit definitions of pie, if a pumpkin pie can, and then cheesecake should be called cheese pie.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: moshquerade
don't Italians call it pizza pie?

"when the moon hits your eye
like a big pizza pie..."

Pizza isn't Italian + Dean Martin was always drunk, so you can't use him as a reliable source.

I'm with the pie theory though.

well how about Sicilian? you gonna tell me pizza isn't Sicilian either?
no easter bunny or santa next?

 

[PastaPete]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: moshquerade
don't Italians call it pizza pie?

"when the moon hits your eye
like a big pizza pie..."

Pizza isn't Italian + Dean Martin was always drunk, so you can't use him as a reliable source.

I'm with the pie theory though.

well how about Sicilian? you gonna tell me pizza isn't Sicilian either?
no easter bunny or santa next?

um Sicilians != Italians