Why do people buy Full-Screen DVDs?

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Wag

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: Turkz
AFAIK TV shows only come in full screen DVDs.

Very true. :(

I have a 19" 4:3 TV at the moment, but I still buy widescreen DVDs mainly. I don't plan on having this tiny TV indefinitely afterall. And I'm used to seeing it with the black bars regardless. 4:3 Fullscreen seems a little odd now.
Yes? Considering most TV shows are shot in 4:3, what's wrong with that? Kung Fu is a 4:3 show and the DVD is cropped to 16:9 and it looks terrible.

That said, with the advent of HDTV there are plenty of newer shows shot in 16:9. Babylon5, Stargate, Andromeda, Earth TFC, Smallville, 24, Enterprise, Alias, CSI...Shall I go on? All have widescreen anamorphic DVDs available.

 

Kaervak

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Originally posted by: ribbon13
Why do people buy dvds when for $20 a month you can rent all you want, rip, and burn.

You realize you pay a tax on blank media that was enacted to recoup money lost from piracy. I heard about the MPAA forcing public libraries to charge people for checking out dvds. I feel no pity. The production crew gets paid long before the movie hits dvd.

Um no. The tax on blank media is in Canada. The only extra "tax" anyone here pays on blank media is for "Music CD-Rs."
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Originally posted by: gigapet
my guess is NOT EVERYONE OWNS A WIDESCREEN TELEVISION! DUH!

Unless you were kidding, You're probably one of the people this post is aimed at. only RETARDS think that you need a widescreen TV to watch a widescreen DVD. Hello.. McFly... What shape is a movie screen? Wide rectangle. What shape is a TV? Almost square. How do you fit a rectangular picture onto an almost square TV? You either just put it on there which leaves some black space above and below the picture, or you shop out half the picture to make it into a square....

Morons and old people buy full screen. They don't know (and probably can't comprehend) any better.

so if i have a 28inch tv minus the black bars a wide screen would create my total viewing area would probably be <20 inches. I'd have to sit 4 feet away to make out anything....at that point i could care less if im missing seemingly irrelevant footage anyways. A better question to pose is why not have both formats on every DVD?
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Originally posted by: gigapet
my guess is NOT EVERYONE OWNS A WIDESCREEN TELEVISION! DUH!

Unless you were kidding, You're probably one of the people this post is aimed at. only RETARDS think that you need a widescreen TV to watch a widescreen DVD. Hello.. McFly... What shape is a movie screen? Wide rectangle. What shape is a TV? Almost square. How do you fit a rectangular picture onto an almost square TV? You either just put it on there which leaves some black space above and below the picture, or you shop out half the picture to make it into a square....

Morons and old people buy full screen. They don't know (and probably can't comprehend) any better.

so if i have a 28inch tv minus the black bars a wide screen would create my total viewing area would probably be <20 inches. I'd have to sit 4 feet away to make out anything....at that point i could care less if im missing seemingly irrelevant footage anyways. A better question to pose is why not have both formats on every DVD?

You know most DVD players have a zoom option that will automatically crop widescreen DVDs for 4:3. If you don't care about losing the picture, you should just use this feature.
 
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How does a 4:3 TV show look on a 16:9 TV? Does it have black bars on the side or do thewy actually stretch the picture? Stretching looks so so so wrong.
 

Wag

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Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
How does a 4:3 TV show look on a 16:9 TV? Does it have black bars on the side or do thewy actually stretch the picture? Stretching looks so so so wrong.
Yes. It will either have black/grey bars, or you can zoom/stretch it- up to you.

I have a 30" 16:9 HDTV and I do not stretch anything.

 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Originally posted by: gigapet
my guess is NOT EVERYONE OWNS A WIDESCREEN TELEVISION! DUH!

Unless you were kidding, You're probably one of the people this post is aimed at. only RETARDS think that you need a widescreen TV to watch a widescreen DVD. Hello.. McFly... What shape is a movie screen? Wide rectangle. What shape is a TV? Almost square. How do you fit a rectangular picture onto an almost square TV? You either just put it on there which leaves some black space above and below the picture, or you shop out half the picture to make it into a square....

Morons and old people buy full screen. They don't know (and probably can't comprehend) any better.

so if i have a 28inch tv minus the black bars a wide screen would create my total viewing area would probably be <20 inches. I'd have to sit 4 feet away to make out anything....at that point i could care less if im missing seemingly irrelevant footage anyways. A better question to pose is why not have both formats on every DVD?

You know most DVD players have a zoom option that will automatically crop widescreen DVDs for 4:3. If you don't care about losing the picture, you should just use this feature.

Not everyone especially my parents would even understand what you are talking about. So fro them fullscreen is what is easiest. but like i said .....would it costs what 4 cents more to print the dvd with both formats?
 

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Originally posted by: MrChad
Some people have the misconception that widescreen DVDs + widescreen TV = no black bars. If you watch a 2.35:1 movie on a 16:9 TV, you are going to get black bars, but it's still the right way to watch it. I just shudder to think that casual consumers are going to push for 16:9 Pan & Scan when (and if) widescreen adoption becomes more prevalent.
thats why im going to laugh my nuts off when more people start buying hdtv's and still complain about the black bars. i mean, the black bars are so thin on a hdtv, who cares?!? and im going to double-over in even more laughter when they put in their pan&scan dvd and see it is surrounded by bars.
 

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Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
How does a 4:3 TV show look on a 16:9 TV? Does it have black bars on the side or do thewy actually stretch the picture? Stretching looks so so so wrong.

I've wondered the same thing.
 

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Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: ribbon13
Why do people buy dvds when for $20 a month you can rent all you want, rip, and burn.

You realize you pay a tax on blank media that was enacted to recoup money lost from piracy. I heard about the MPAA forcing public libraries to charge people for checking out dvds. I feel no pity. The production crew gets paid long before the movie hits dvd.

Because that's stealing, douchebag. :roll:

And, you can't rent all you want for $20 a month.. you can only have so many at a time.

Now, if you paid for cable and recorded it from cable for your own personal use, that'd be legal (AFAIK) I think you're supposed to erase VCR tapes and such after 1 year though, or something like that... Regardless, I don't buy dvd-rw, so I can't erase them :)
 

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Because it's Full screen, obviously you want to use the whole screen. Leaving those blacks bars is SUCH a waste!
 

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There are some movies that were actually shot in 4:3. sometimes the distributor still releases them in widescreen formats as well because there are also ignorant people who think that widescreen is always better. This is especially true of some older movies.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Originally posted by: gigapet
my guess is NOT EVERYONE OWNS A WIDESCREEN TELEVISION! DUH!

Unless you were kidding, You're probably one of the people this post is aimed at. only RETARDS think that you need a widescreen TV to watch a widescreen DVD. Hello.. McFly... What shape is a movie screen? Wide rectangle. What shape is a TV? Almost square. How do you fit a rectangular picture onto an almost square TV? You either just put it on there which leaves some black space above and below the picture, or you shop out half the picture to make it into a square....

Morons and old people buy full screen. They don't know (and probably can't comprehend) any better.

Maybe if I wanted WS, I go to a fvckin movie theater then, junior. Did your parents have any kids that survived?
 

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
For the people that own smaller tvs. If I was watching movies on a 32" TV or less, I'd probably buy full screen as well.

that's why i do it.
 

Argo

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I actually regret doing that. I have over 40 full screen dvds and now that I plan on buying HDTV - i have no idea what I'm going to do with them.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: gigapet
Not everyone especially my parents would even understand what you are talking about. So fro them fullscreen is what is easiest. but like i said .....would it costs what 4 cents more to print the dvd with both formats?

First of all, the zoom feature is a simple setting on the DVD player. If you read the manual you can locate it easily.

Secondly, you clearly don't understand what's involved in mastering a DVD. P&S transfers take a great deal of effort to create (the zoomed-in portion pans across specific portions of the full widescreen image, and this area changes as the scene changes). DVDs also have limited space, so adding a P&S version would require sacrificing things like a) video quality, b) audio tracks or c) special features. It is not as simple as "4 cents."
 

Kelemvor

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Um, maybe those people w/out a widescreen tv don't like black bars? How much of the population with a DVD player have a widescreen tv? My guess is less than 20% of the population. Out of that 80%, I would venture to say only about 20-30% mind the black bars on the movie. Nice to see that you can't comprehend what the mass public wants.

20-30% of 80% is only 25% of the total. That's hardly the Mass Public. And history easily shows that the Mass Public is so compeltely uninformed that basing anything "Because the mass public says so" is just adidiotic as wanting a Full Screen Movie.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: ribbon13
Why do people buy dvds when for $20 a month you can rent all you want, rip, and burn.

You realize you pay a tax on blank media that was enacted to recoup money lost from piracy. I heard about the MPAA forcing public libraries to charge people for checking out dvds. I feel no pity. The production crew gets paid long before the movie hits dvd.

Stupid newb. You won't be around much.
 

Kelemvor

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Originally posted by: gigapet
my guess is NOT EVERYONE OWNS A WIDESCREEN TELEVISION! DUH!

Unless you were kidding, You're probably one of the people this post is aimed at. only RETARDS think that you need a widescreen TV to watch a widescreen DVD. Hello.. McFly... What shape is a movie screen? Wide rectangle. What shape is a TV? Almost square. How do you fit a rectangular picture onto an almost square TV? You either just put it on there which leaves some black space above and below the picture, or you shop out half the picture to make it into a square....

Morons and old people buy full screen. They don't know (and probably can't comprehend) any better.

Maybe if I wanted WS, I go to a fvckin movie theater then, junior. Did your parents have any kids that survived?

You make my point exactly. So if you're not old, you're obviosuly a Moron.
 

Deeko

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I'll never understand people who won't tolerate bars on the top or side of their picture.

The people with fullscreen TV's that buy fullscreen movies. Idiots. Purely.

I have a widescreen TV now, and my roommates insist on stretching any 4:3 signal to cover the bars on the side. Why??? It looks terrible.

There are some questions with no answers....
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: gigapet
Not everyone especially my parents would even understand what you are talking about. So fro them fullscreen is what is easiest. but like i said .....would it costs what 4 cents more to print the dvd with both formats?

First of all, the zoom feature is a simple setting on the DVD player. If you read the manual you can locate it easily.

Secondly, you clearly don't understand what's involved in mastering a DVD. P&S transfers take a great deal of effort to create (the zoomed-in portion pans across specific portions of the full widescreen image, and this area changes as the scene changes). DVDs also have limited space, so adding a P&S version would require sacrificing things like a) video quality, b) audio tracks or c) special features. It is not as simple as "4 cents."


have you ever dealt with ppl over 50 before? they can have 50 friggin manuals, a video, a powerpoint, an instructor and still not know how to even switch the tv input to view the dvd channel. Get over it man some ppl are content with full screen and until the the majority of dvd watchers all have giant lcd panels on there walls i dont see them stopping full screen dvds from being made.

and your point about its not as simple as 4 cents perhaps is not four cents perhaps its 50 cents. I have bought a few dvds for 12 bucks that have both formats and bonus scenes.
 

Kelemvor

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Originally posted by: Deeko
I'll never understand people who won't tolerate bars on the top or side of their picture.

The people with fullscreen TV's that buy fullscreen movies. Idiots. Purely.

I have a widescreen TV now, and my roommates insist on stretching any 4:3 signal to cover the bars on the side. Why??? It looks terrible.

There are some questions with no answers....

Only reason for that is if most of the TV you watch is in 4:3, you can get burn in real easy on widescreen TVs. You do get used to having it stretch eventually. My brother had to have his TV replaced because he had major burn in lines after less than a month just from watching normal TV.
 

clamum

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People actually care about other people buying full- or wide-screen DVDs? HAHAHAHAHA