Why Do People Always seem to Blame or Ignore God?

[TheShiz]

Originally posted by: rasholianmon
I just want to know, since when do any of you have the wisdom that God does?
I mean, people just don't listen to him at all, and it amazes me how in the end, they either blame him for their failures in life or just refuse to acknowledge that trying it His way might actually be of a benefit to them.

Better yet, they're quick to torture, persecute, or just plain insult anyone looking to follow Him.

Anything great that you could come up with, any great creation or great idea or great accomplishment by man, God has done before. He created everyone and everything, yet few give him proper respect. By "weak" people, these aren't really the weak in physical stature, but spiritually weak, in terms that they rely on their own selves more than they would on anything else.

really, I'd rather be a sheep than a lemming. If you're not following God, you're following someone else.

Your thoughts here.

Since god does not speak to you or me directly, all we have to go on is what others have said who claim to have spoken to god or whatever. I don't know about you, but I don't believe a word some nutjob says who claims to have "talked to god". Think about it, the only accounts god allows to filter through to us are from some nutjobs, how can you follow this garbage?


If there is a god, it does not interfere with the plight of man. If it did, I?m thinking we would not exist after all the pillaging, raping, and killing that has been committed in god's name.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: rasholianmon
I just want to know, since when do any of you have the wisdom that God does?
I mean, people just don't listen to him at all, and it amazes me how in the end, they either blame him for their failures in life or just refuse to acknowledge that trying it His way might actually be of a benefit to them.

Better yet, they're quick to torture, persecute, or just plain insult anyone looking to follow Him.

Anything great that you could come up with, any great creation or great idea or great accomplishment by man, God has done before. He created everyone and everything, yet few give him proper respect. By "weak" people, these aren't really the weak in physical stature, but spiritually weak, in terms that they rely on their own selves more than they would on anything else.

really, I'd rather be a sheep than a lemming. If you're not following God, you're following someone else.

Your thoughts here.

You know that lemmings don't actually commit mass suicide, right?
And if you're not following god, who's to say you have to follow anyone?
And how do you know god is male?

yes, I do... just as sheep aren't actually mindless...
if you follow no one, aren't you yourself choosing to do that? so then, you're following yourself.
God created man in his own image.... not "her" own image.

Haha, well that is NOT proof God is "male." I am a pretty faithful Christian, and I will be the first to admit that we know a lot less about God than some people would like to believe. The words "own image" could mean anything, besides the Bible has been re-written by man. The Bible should NOT be taken literally when it comes to things like this.

2 Timothy 3:16 makes it clear that the bible should be taken into account for all matters... go and read it...

"Taken into account" does not equal the Bible should be taken literlally. The Bible was written so common could read it. Try explain how a motherboard works to someone who lived 5000 years ago.

sure, give me the chalk...

:roll:

You're missing my point, or ignoring it. The point I am trying to make is that if God exists, and He created the universe and all, the process of doing so, and the description of God, would be so complicated and complex that no one 5000 years ago would have understood it, or even believed it. So it was "dumbed down." Much like I am doing for you now.

 

[rasholianmon]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: rasholianmon
I just want to know, since when do any of you have the wisdom that God does?
I mean, people just don't listen to him at all, and it amazes me how in the end, they either blame him for their failures in life or just refuse to acknowledge that trying it His way might actually be of a benefit to them.

Better yet, they're quick to torture, persecute, or just plain insult anyone looking to follow Him.

Anything great that you could come up with, any great creation or great idea or great accomplishment by man, God has done before. He created everyone and everything, yet few give him proper respect. By "weak" people, these aren't really the weak in physical stature, but spiritually weak, in terms that they rely on their own selves more than they would on anything else.

really, I'd rather be a sheep than a lemming. If you're not following God, you're following someone else.

Your thoughts here.

You know that lemmings don't actually commit mass suicide, right?
And if you're not following god, who's to say you have to follow anyone?
And how do you know god is male?

yes, I do... just as sheep aren't actually mindless...
if you follow no one, aren't you yourself choosing to do that? so then, you're following yourself.
God created man in his own image.... not "her" own image.

Haha, well that is NOT proof God is "male." I am a pretty faithful Christian, and I will be the first to admit that we know a lot less about God than some people would like to believe. The words "own image" could mean anything, besides the Bible has been re-written by man. The Bible should NOT be taken literally when it comes to things like this.

2 Timothy 3:16 makes it clear that the bible should be taken into account for all matters... go and read it...

"Taken into account" does not equal the Bible should be taken literlally. The Bible was written so common could read it. Try explain how a motherboard works to someone who lived 5000 years ago.

sure, give me the chalk...

:roll:

You're missing my point, or ignoring it. The point I am trying to make is that if God exists, and He created the universe and all, the process of doing so, and the description of God, would be so complicated and complex that no one 5000 years ago would have understood it, or even believed it. So it was "dumbed down." Much like I am doing for you now.

ok... so why is it that people ignore the "dumbed down" versions of things such as the ten commandments, or matthew 24:14, or the sermon on the mount?

 

[rasholianmon]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: rasholianmon
2 Timothy 3:16 makes it clear that the bible should be taken into account for all matters... go and read it...

There's your problem.

The Bible was written by many men over a long period of time and incorporated stories from several cultures.

People like you who take it literally are the ones twisting the Bible. The Bible is merely a means of recounting the human condition and a struggle to maintain faith in God at all times. Nothing more.

"merely"?

ha, I might get banned, but the mod upstairs is certainly going to note that post for sure...

 

[yllus]

I just want to know, since when do any of you have the wisdom that God does?

I surely encompass at least the wisdom God does, because he's a fairy-tale creation.

Better yet, they're quick to torture, persecute, or just plain insult anyone looking to follow Him.

You think you're far more important to athiests/agnostics than you really are. This is a message board and it makes for an easy outlet to laugh at how completely illogical you act. Few here are going to lift a finger to torture to persecute your oh-so-maligned faith. Please kid...you ain't a martyr.

really, I'd rather be a sheep than a lemming. If you're not following God, you're following someone else.

LOL - Yes...don't try to think for yourself. You might hurt yourself.

 

[TheShiz]

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: rasholianmon
2 Timothy 3:16 makes it clear that the bible should be taken into account for all matters... go and read it...

There's your problem.

The Bible was written by many men over a long period of time and incorporated stories from several cultures.

People like you who take it literally are the ones twisting the Bible. The Bible is merely a means of recounting the human condition and a struggle to maintain faith in God at all times. Nothing more.

"merely"?

ha, I might get banned, but the mod upstairs is certainly going to note that post for sure...

is it just me or do religious fanatics seem to take pleasure in judging others. I'll partake in the fun too, since you like to judge so much, I'm guessing the mod downstairs will have fun with you... for sure.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: rasholianmon
2 Timothy 3:16 makes it clear that the bible should be taken into account for all matters... go and read it...

There's your problem.

The Bible was written by many men over a long period of time and incorporated stories from several cultures.

People like you who take it literally are the ones twisting the Bible. The Bible is merely a means of recounting the human condition and a struggle to maintain faith in God at all times. Nothing more.

"merely"?

ha, I might get banned, but the mod upstairs is certainly going to note that post for sure...

It's obvious as all get-out that Jesus was just a preacher. He wasn't some god or super-natural being. There's a greater chance he was an alien from another solar system than of him being a deity.

You have to look at the big picture and the history of the church in its efforts to deify Christ and create a "virgin" Mary. It was all about power and politics. Do some reading on Constantine and the early church.

 

[PoPPeR]

sorry but I have control over my own life. When I succeed, I can tell you who was responsible. When I fail, I can also tell you why. And believe me, the word "God" never comes into play. I respect people that believe in him, because I think it's good to have hope. But I also think those that take the bible literally and let it dictate their lives are complete idiots. And that's just the way I am, sorry.

 

[Nitemare]

and God loved us so much that he gave us his only son...


so that we could adorn our trailerparks with cheap plastic replicas of him

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: rasholianmon
I just want to know, since when do any of you have the wisdom that God does?
I mean, people just don't listen to him at all, and it amazes me how in the end, they either blame him for their failures in life or just refuse to acknowledge that trying it His way might actually be of a benefit to them.

Better yet, they're quick to torture, persecute, or just plain insult anyone looking to follow Him.

Anything great that you could come up with, any great creation or great idea or great accomplishment by man, God has done before. He created everyone and everything, yet few give him proper respect. By "weak" people, these aren't really the weak in physical stature, but spiritually weak, in terms that they rely on their own selves more than they would on anything else.

really, I'd rather be a sheep than a lemming. If you're not following God, you're following someone else.

Your thoughts here.

You know that lemmings don't actually commit mass suicide, right?
And if you're not following god, who's to say you have to follow anyone?
And how do you know god is male?

yes, I do... just as sheep aren't actually mindless...
if you follow no one, aren't you yourself choosing to do that? so then, you're following yourself.
God created man in his own image.... not "her" own image.

Haha, well that is NOT proof God is "male." I am a pretty faithful Christian, and I will be the first to admit that we know a lot less about God than some people would like to believe. The words "own image" could mean anything, besides the Bible has been re-written by man. The Bible should NOT be taken literally when it comes to things like this.

2 Timothy 3:16 makes it clear that the bible should be taken into account for all matters... go and read it...

"Taken into account" does not equal the Bible should be taken literlally. The Bible was written so common could read it. Try explain how a motherboard works to someone who lived 5000 years ago.

sure, give me the chalk...

:roll:

You're missing my point, or ignoring it. The point I am trying to make is that if God exists, and He created the universe and all, the process of doing so, and the description of God, would be so complicated and complex that no one 5000 years ago would have understood it, or even believed it. So it was "dumbed down." Much like I am doing for you now.

ok... so why is it that people ignore the "dumbed down" versions of things such as the ten commandments, or matthew 24:14, or the sermon on the mount?

I wasn't aware that people ignore the 10 Commandments.

I am just saying that it's very unlikely that God created the Earth in seven days (at least not how we define "days").

 

[rasholianmon]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: rasholianmon
I just want to know, since when do any of you have the wisdom that God does?
I mean, people just don't listen to him at all, and it amazes me how in the end, they either blame him for their failures in life or just refuse to acknowledge that trying it His way might actually be of a benefit to them.

Better yet, they're quick to torture, persecute, or just plain insult anyone looking to follow Him.

Anything great that you could come up with, any great creation or great idea or great accomplishment by man, God has done before. He created everyone and everything, yet few give him proper respect. By "weak" people, these aren't really the weak in physical stature, but spiritually weak, in terms that they rely on their own selves more than they would on anything else.

really, I'd rather be a sheep than a lemming. If you're not following God, you're following someone else.

Your thoughts here.

You know that lemmings don't actually commit mass suicide, right?
And if you're not following god, who's to say you have to follow anyone?
And how do you know god is male?

yes, I do... just as sheep aren't actually mindless...
if you follow no one, aren't you yourself choosing to do that? so then, you're following yourself.
God created man in his own image.... not "her" own image.

Haha, well that is NOT proof God is "male." I am a pretty faithful Christian, and I will be the first to admit that we know a lot less about God than some people would like to believe. The words "own image" could mean anything, besides the Bible has been re-written by man. The Bible should NOT be taken literally when it comes to things like this.

2 Timothy 3:16 makes it clear that the bible should be taken into account for all matters... go and read it...

"Taken into account" does not equal the Bible should be taken literlally. The Bible was written so common could read it. Try explain how a motherboard works to someone who lived 5000 years ago.

sure, give me the chalk...

:roll:

You're missing my point, or ignoring it. The point I am trying to make is that if God exists, and He created the universe and all, the process of doing so, and the description of God, would be so complicated and complex that no one 5000 years ago would have understood it, or even believed it. So it was "dumbed down." Much like I am doing for you now.

ok... so why is it that people ignore the "dumbed down" versions of things such as the ten commandments, or matthew 24:14, or the sermon on the mount?

I wasn't aware that people ignore the 10 Commandments.

I am just saying that it's very unlikely that God created the Earth in seven days (at least not how we define "days").

but another scripture clearly explains that a "day" is but a "thousand years" to Jehovah, meaning that the earth was not created in human 'days', but over the course of billions of years. to God, who created everything, that would pass as mere days. it's like if you were shrunken to the size of an ant and ran what seemed to you like a marathon. in human distance, you'd be running about 5 feet or something.

 

[Mallow]

I see people give thanks to god all the time... usually after making a touchdown or a good goal.

 

[rasholianmon]

Originally posted by: Mallow
I see people give thanks to god all the time... usually after making a touchdown or a good goal.

is this before or after they decide to do the worm?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: rasholianmon

Originally posted by: bamacre
I wasn't aware that people ignore the 10 Commandments.

I am just saying that it's very unlikely that God created the Earth in seven days (at least not how we define "days").

but another scripture clearly explains that a "day" is but a "thousand years" to Jehovah, meaning that the earth was not created in human 'days', but over the course of billions of years. to God, who created everything, that would pass as mere days. it's like if you were shrunken to the size of an ant and ran what seemed to you like a marathon. in human distance, you'd be running about 5 feet or something.

You're getting there.

Now, take the rest of the symbolism (esp. the use of numbers such as 3 and 40) in the Bible and you're on the road to the real truth.

 

[OutHouse]

Damn, yesterdays talk radio had me riled up. all the religious nuts were calling in and saying how it was gods plan, we should have seen the signs, the region is full of sinners... holy f*ck i was pissed. Tell that to the 50K kids who drowned, tell that to the parents, tell that to the orphans...

God did not make that earthquake. its call the natural movement of the earths tetonic plates you asses! :|