Well, the apartment only had a little window unit to heat the place and it was really expensive to operate and since it was a apartment complex, the heat from the other apartments probably kept the water pipes fine.
heating with electricity: electricity is converted from fossil fuel presumably and then turned into heat again.
heating with gas: no conversion = more efficient.
heating with gas: no conversion = more efficient.
dullard
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1) Gas WAS cheaper. But then gas price increases have outpaced electricity price increases. Right now the two are fairly close in price to heat a house/apartment depending on the efficiency of your furnace.
2) Gas has some advantages. (A) Water heaters can heat faster with gas if that is a problem (and if you get the right gas water heater). (B) Some inexperienced chefs can cook better with gas on a gas stove (a good chef can do both quite well).
But gas has one major disadvantage: In the spring/summer/fall the monthly service fee kills you. That wipes out any cost advantage gas ever had and in fact makes gas easilly more expensive now.
Then there are minor disadvantages such as safety, leaks, multiple bills to pay, etc.
2) Gas has some advantages. (A) Water heaters can heat faster with gas if that is a problem (and if you get the right gas water heater). (B) Some inexperienced chefs can cook better with gas on a gas stove (a good chef can do both quite well).
But gas has one major disadvantage: In the spring/summer/fall the monthly service fee kills you. That wipes out any cost advantage gas ever had and in fact makes gas easilly more expensive now.
Then there are minor disadvantages such as safety, leaks, multiple bills to pay, etc.
What service fees? My gas bill during the summer is like $15... and we have a gas water heater and range.
dullard
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My gas bill service fees are ~$13/month. For 9 months I use a grand total of $2/month of gas. That is a waste of $13*9 = $117/year. $117/year is what it costs to heat a decent small apartment with electricity where I live in Nebraska. Just for the gas service fee alone for the year, I could heat my apartment with electricity for the year.
Having a gas hot water heater means you still have hot showers when the power goes out.
A couple of years ago, and ice storm knocked power out for 1.6M people in NC. We still had hot showers, the gas fireplace kept the house comfortable, and we cooked with the gas grill.
A couple of years ago, and ice storm knocked power out for 1.6M people in NC. We still had hot showers, the gas fireplace kept the house comfortable, and we cooked with the gas grill.
Guess I'll have to look at the break down on my next bill and see what the fees are. But I can't imagine that having an electric water heater and range would result in much less than an extra $15 on my electric bill each month.
Rumpltzer
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My apartment lease in Illinois specifically stated that I needed to keep the place warm enough in winter to keep the pipes from freezing.
My girlfriend lived in a large building with interiro hallways and henighbors above, below, and to both sides. She'd let them keep her warm to some extent, and she'd use her hot water (included in the rent) from the shower to heat the place up when she really wanted to. She'd fog the whole place up and damage her books doing this.
She has a PhD in Chemical Engineering, but that doesn't mean she's got a lot of common sense.
She's hot, though, so I suppose it doesn't matter.
OutHouse
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Originally posted by: Rumpltzer
My apartment lease in Illinois specifically stated that I needed to keep the place warm enough in winter to keep the pipes from freezing.
My girlfriend lived in a large building with interiro hallways and henighbors above, below, and to both sides. She'd let them keep her warm to some extent, and she'd use her hot water (included in the rent) from the shower to heat the place up when she really wanted to. She'd fog the whole place up and damage her books doing this.
She has a PhD in Chemical Engineering, but that doesn't mean she's got a lot of common sense.
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Picture's worth a thousand words...
I converted everything to gas, that I reasonably could:
I converted everything to gas, that I reasonably could:
- Furnace
- Hot Water Tank
- Stove
- Drier
- Fireplace
Why? Because I didnt want to spend $200 a month on a heating bill when my rent was less than $400? I couldnt afford it jackass, so i suffered through the winter without heat, understand idiot? If the apartment cared they would have put in central heating instead of inefficient old window units as heaters. The pipes arent gonna freeze when my unit is part of many other units.
The heater also was on off only, so If i went to work for 8 hours, it wouldnt shut off
anyway, it never froze in my apartment
because no one wants to cook with electric stove. People see an apartment with electric stove and they won't even think about it .
Brainonska511
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Gas is good for cooking, but can be expensive for home heating. In my house, it is oil heating (with 3 gallon on-demand water heating system), gas cooking, and electric for everything else.
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