Why do mobiles suck so much?

scaramoosh

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All I want is a Smart Phone that is good and yet every one seems to have too many downsides to justify buying one. If I'm putting down £500 for a phone, I at least want it to be just what I'm looking for.

The new Lumia 920 looks lovely but aside from the weak specs, the faked pictures and lack of micro SD support, it's using Windows Phone 8. It doesn't support flash player and it doesn't let you use it like a HD on your PC so it's pointless. I hate locked OS because you can never do what you want with them and not to mention how hard that thing must be to repair. Such a shame because it does look lovely.

I've tried an iPhone before but returned it quite quickly because you're forced to use iTunes but getting content off your phone is impossible and you cannot just transfer anything you want to your phone via iTunes. No flash player is a major problem because most sites need it, even loads of Youtube videos need flash and the youtube app sucks... like all the apps to bypass the lack of flash, I want to use the BBC iPlayer desktop site and not the app PLEASE!

So my only option is Android but oh look every frigging phone company wants to put their own UI over Android. I could use a custom rom but they're always buggy and end up being worse. I would quite happily buy a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 or GS3 but not until you remove Touchwiz! The thing with Android handsets too is one might look great but have crap hardware and one might be cheap and plastic like the GS3 but have great hardware. Yet the camera in the GS3 is crap and the screen is a lackluster pentile...


Why do they all suck? Just someone please make a good smart phone that I want.
 

shortylickens

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Theres plenty. You need to research. And based on some of your comments, I think you have to be trolling.
Or hideously ignorant. Which can be cured with research.
 

vshah

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hopefully some nice new nexus devices will come out later this year without crap cameras and plastic bodies.
 

Headcase_Fargone

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So my only option is Android but oh look every frigging phone company wants to put their own UI over Android. I could use a custom rom but they're always buggy and end up being worse. I would quite happily buy a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 or GS3 but not until you remove Touchwiz! The thing with Android handsets too is one might look great but have crap hardware and one might be cheap and plastic like the GS3 but have great hardware. Yet the camera in the GS3 is crap and the screen is a lackluster pentile...

This is patently false. ROMs like Cyanogenmod and AOKP are known to be far more stable and much faster than carrier releases. You really should try CM10 on an S3 before condemning Android completely.

I'm running it on my Galaxy Nexus and it's rock solid. And this is a nightly build, not even a so-called "stable" release.
 
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This is patently false. ROMs like Cyanogenmod and AOKP are known to be far more stable and much faster than carrier releases. You really should try CM10 on an S3 before condemning Android completely.

I'm running it on my Galaxy Nexus and it's rock solid. And this is a nightly build, not even a so-called "stable" release.

But CM10 isn't even fully stable for the S3. It's not the same level of smoothness as a GNex simply because of proprietary blobs and stuff.
 

openwheel

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I completely disagree with you regarding the 920. You probably need a reality check.
Flash is going away. You have swallow that fact.
I understand your pain with iPhone, iTune and Apple's locked down eco-system.

Your three best options:
1. Get the phone you want and install Apex Launcher or similar.
2. Get a Nexus. Any Nexus.
3. Stop being so picky and whine about EVERYTHING. Choose the best option at the moment. This is technology.
 

Headcase_Fargone

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But CM10 isn't even fully stable for the S3. It's not the same level of smoothness as a GNex simply because of proprietary blobs and stuff.

I wasn't aware of that as I don't own one. So he won't be able to get the most recent hardware with stable third party ROMs right out of the gate. That's to be expected actually.

There are other Android phones out there with still decent specs that DO have very stable vanilla ROMs.
 

Strk

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What specs are weak on the Lumia 920? And are you referring to the video when it was first announced? The camera is actually awesome on the Lumia.

And flash sucks. It will be nice when companies stop using it. As for an Android device, I would only go for a Nexus phone, personally.
 
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I wasn't aware of that as I don't own one. So he won't be able to get the most recent hardware with stable third party ROMs right out of the gate. That's to be expected actually.

There are other Android phones out there with still decent specs that DO have very stable vanilla ROMs.

the only phone you should expect excellent ROM support is the GNex. There's ROMs for my SGS2 i9100, but seeing how CyangenMod always had issues for this phone, I don't know.

I'm going with a Nexus next round. I don't think a ROM is a true solution. It may be a stopgap solution until Google and manufacturers release a good enough OS, but I don't recommend ROMing unless you're ready to step into the field of always having an incomplete product.
 

Headcase_Fargone

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the only phone you should expect excellent ROM support is the GNex. There's ROMs for my SGS2 i9100, but seeing how CyangenMod always had issues for this phone, I don't know.

I'm going with a Nexus next round. I don't think a ROM is a true solution. It may be a stopgap solution until Google and manufacturers release a good enough OS, but I don't recommend ROMing unless you're ready to step into the field of always having an incomplete product.

Definitely a last-gen (maybe two back) phone, but my OG Evo 4G was far more stable with CM7 than it was with stock Sense ROM. That's where I'm coming from with my argument. Both phones I've used so far have been better with CM.
 

mosco

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I wasn't aware of that as I don't own one. So he won't be able to get the most recent hardware with stable third party ROMs right out of the gate. That's to be expected actually.

There are other Android phones out there with still decent specs that DO have very stable vanilla ROMs.

I think we are past "out of the gate" phase. It's been out for almost 3 months in US.
 

aylafan

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So my only option is Android but oh look every frigging phone company wants to put their own UI over Android. I could use a custom rom but they're always buggy and end up being worse. I would quite happily buy a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 or GS3 but not until you remove Touchwiz! The thing with Android handsets too is one might look great but have crap hardware and one might be cheap and plastic like the GS3 but have great hardware. Yet the camera in the GS3 is crap and the screen is a lackluster pentile...

Touchwiz isn't that bad of a user interface. It isn't as pretty as the stock Android or HTC interface, but it's simple enough to use and looks pretty nice. The camera on the S3 is actually great; however, the iPhone does take better photos. Burst Shot with Best Photo works very well on the S3. HDR and other settings are decent too. I'm in love with the screen. I bet you wouldn't even know that it was pentile if you did not read the specs. The screen provides vivid colors, the resolution is HD, it's 4.8 inches, and it's easy on the eyes for daily usage.

I also own a iPhone 4S and a BlackBerry Bold. They are great phones too. Not trying to be offensive, but you sound whiny with your statement. Either buy a smartphone and enjoy it or don't buy one at all. Nobody is forcing you to buy one in the first place.
 

s44

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Honestly, the real question is -- why are they so awesome? Main problem these days is that you want to play with them so much that the battery will die.

Anyway, buy the Note 2, turn off Voice, install Nova, profit. TW doesn't do anything like screw with multitasking (ahem, Sense); all you'll really notice is different default icons and power toggles that you'd want to install anyway.
 

mikegg

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Why does life suck so much?

Just get something and be done with it. No phone is perfect. Most highend phones are damn good.
 

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In addition to comments from others, you should probably learn to get over the Flash thing, because Flash on mobile devices is dead. It was always a battery sucking program that never really translated well to touch interfaces, and should never have been created IMO. But then again, I tend to think Flash in general can't die soon enough. About the only good use of Flash I have ever seen, is the street view on google maps.
 

jimhsu

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Contrary to the OP, I'm amazed by the progress that mobile phones have made just in the past few years. A few years ago, flip-out keyboards were seen as "cool", copy and paste was an exciting new feature, (laggy) animated windows turned eyeballs, and manufacturers competed on how many garish color schemes they could release (well, that's still happening today, but still). Now you have phones with more computing power than a top-of-the-line Powerbook, cameras that rival (or can even beat) point and shoots, and bandwidth 10x faster than what average people were using in their offices 10 years ago. That's progress.

PS Mobile phones were also responsible for the single fastest leap in display technology (PPI), probably in the history of display technology. Think about that. The phone responsible for this is not the iPhone or any Android devices, but rather the Portege G900.
 
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kaerflog

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You need to go buy some cheese with your whinning.
Its a weak rant or you're probably just trolling.
From 4 yrs ago, its amazing where mobile technology has taken us.
Its like a portable computer in our hands that we can carry with us 24/7.
 

mikegg

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You need to go buy some cheese with your whinning.
Its a weak rant or you're probably just trolling.
From 4 yrs ago, its amazing where mobile technology has taken us.
Its like a portable computer in our hands that we can carry with us 24/7.
It's doing stuff that portable computers(laptops) couldn't do. Instant on. Convenient camera. GPS in your pocket. Long battery life. I could go on and on.
 

scaramoosh

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I don't care if Flash is going away, I'm not a fanboi to anything and don't want to restrict myself, this is the whole point, I'm not taking sides.

However Flash is needed for web browsing right now, I've tried to use IOS devices but the amount of content I cannot view just makes those devices pointless. Desktop sites like BBCiPlayer, youtube or any porn site I might like to wank off to. I like to watch live steaming of Sky F1 because they bought the rights, I tried paying for it but they offered a lackluster service so now I view flash streams.

Flash is needed, any device without it is useless to me and that is why Android is key. Even if Jelly Bean doesn't come with it, you can still download it yourself.
 

scaramoosh

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Since when do you need flash for YouTube?

Since when I view the desktop site because the app sucks and I keep getting lots of videos requiring flash...

I mean are you all noobs here because none of you seem to have a clue..


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