Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
same reason women have orgasms
Actually it helps fertilization as the muscle spasms of the cervix move the sperm to the egg.
Yes, i watch way too much discovery channel.
Actually it helps fertilization as the muscle spasms of the cervix move the sperm to the egg.
Yes, i watch way too much discovery channel.
0roo0roo
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
same reason women have orgasms
Actually it helps fertilization as the muscle spasms of the cervix move the sperm to the egg.
Yes, i watch way too much discovery channel.
naw, ithink thats the pc explanation.
if our survival depended on female orgasms we would have become extinct long ago.
Sexual differentiation actually begins fairly late in the process. We all start off the exact same and then the organs in question begin to develop or recede depending on the hormones and codes.
Just read something which made me remember this thread:
http://www.divinecaroline.com/...y-leftovers-human-body
Page 2.
http://www.divinecaroline.com/...y-leftovers-human-body
Page 2.
IronWing
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Men have nipples because the gods had foresight.
Men w/o nipples: Woman have nipples! We are men! We want everything, all the time! We want nipples! We'll tattoo or brand nipples on ourselves! Ouch! <time passes> Plastic surgery, hurrah, male nipples here we come!
There was no downside to giving men nipples and it avoided a lot of embarrassing silliness.
Men w/o nipples: Woman have nipples! We are men! We want everything, all the time! We want nipples! We'll tattoo or brand nipples on ourselves! Ouch! <time passes> Plastic surgery, hurrah, male nipples here we come!
There was no downside to giving men nipples and it avoided a lot of embarrassing silliness.
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destrekor
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To add more detail to what ADDAvenger was saying...
I think it's just because, well... it happened. Any mammalian species in which the female breastfeeds, and thus has nipples, the males also have nipples. It makes no sense from an evolutionary point of view, but it also makes perfect sense. The species itself was developed to breastfeed the young. For whatever reason, the genetic coding that decided certain spots on the chest would become nipples, was a section of code in common coding, and not sex-specific code. It happened that way, because it just did... and there was no need/chance for it to happen the other way, because not a single male in that first mammalian species with nipples, had any problems in surviving and mating. After that fateful generation, our fates were sealed. All future mammalian males that fit the criteria, were doomed to have nipples.
It doesn't hurt our chances of reproduction, nor of surviving, so nature never had to backtrack and come up with a different solution. Natural selection played its part.
Hell, there may actually have been two species that came to be with the two different nipple solutions - one was a common genetic coding, while the other had sex-specific nipple coding. Maybe natural selection, for wholly different reasons, played into the situation and for some reason the species with sex-specific nipples died off.
Hell, this may have been the case, because most times in evolution, opposites will appear. One time a random mutation leads to this, and another time, somewhere else in the population/world, a random mutation that's seemingly the exact opposite of the first will appear. One might work, the other might not. Both might work, and lead to different species. Neither might work, and time will tell if another mutation will come along that's beneficial.
We have a lot of evolutionary baggage, mostly of the same roots as nipples in natural selection. What works will stick. What causes problems will fall by the wayside. What doesn't work, but doesn't cause any problems, might just stick around too.
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males having nipples is nothing about evolution...it's about embryology. Many of the differences between man and woman begin as similarities and mature into the proper 'parts'.
A male on hormones can lactate though...the nipples are functional. Males just don't produce the proper hormones to create milk.
A male on hormones can lactate though...the nipples are functional. Males just don't produce the proper hormones to create milk.
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Well unless you simply don't believe in evolution, it should be easy to realize that it's still easily said to be rooted in evolution. Males only are that way in the womb because well... that's how mammalian life came to be. A different evolutionary path could have resulted in something quite different.
It's easy to look at everything here in the present today with wonder, amazement, or curiosity, and far too easy to take everything for granted. We're at the end game of a complex system that gave way to some of the strangest creatures, and then took that life away in favor of other life, while others fought and stuck around for the ages. Everything might seem perfect now, and all answers seemingly easily given because of what we know about how life currently operates, but how it got here, and why here and not something else... that's where an answer to something seemingly as simple as nipples will truly be found, aka never to be known.
And as you were stating, male and female develop in the same body style, sexual identity by way of sex-specific genetic material doesn't even develop until a specific period in the cycle. Meaning: we develop as a unisex prior to becoming whatever sex was determined at conception, because those sex-specific genetics don't even have a play in the development of life until the rest of the genetic material can shape cells into the base structure on which the sex-specific code can manipulate.
So, back to the root: why are nipples included in the base, unisex human genetic material, and not included only in the female-specific coding, thus never developing in the base structure until the sex-specific genetic material begins to change the fetus ?
See how I got there? Right there is the true question, and as I offered earlier, the best theory would be that at some point far back in time, some of the first mammals, the way they happened to have been coded was with nipples in the unisex/common genetic material. Some mammals may have had it sex-specific, but apparently they never made it, or the random mutation of nipples, with coding being unisex, just happened to have occurred first, and worked. It produced unnecessary nipples in males, but in the end it worked, and through no means did the males have any problems, and thus, they survived, mated, and the offspring lived. Thus, that coding stuck. And through the ages, it stuck, because it just worked. Sex-specific could have just as easily worked in the end, but through whatever random natural occurrences, that was never given a chance.
I'm sure the nipples would be cleaned beforehand, not to worry. unless there's whipped cream on there or something else erotic.
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