Why do Jews get thier own race?

notfred

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Hindus aren't a race. Christians aren't a race. Muslims aren't a race. Why is it that the Jewish religion is considered a race? I've heard someone call an anti-jewish commnet "racist" many times. Judaism isn't a race though, it's a religion. Why is judaism the only religion whose members get thier own racial group?
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: notfred
Hindus aren't a race. Christians aren't a race. Muslims aren't a race. Why is it that the Jewish religion is considered a race? I've heard someone call an anti-jewish commnet "racist" many times. Judaism isn't a race though, it's a religion. Why is judaism the only religion whose members get thier own racial group?

Don't worry about it. People say stupid, uninformed things all the time.
 

JonTheBaller

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I'm Jewish. I don't think that Jews "get their own race". I don't see how you can say there is a Jewish race, because race is based strictly on genetic components. You can convert to a religion, but you cannot change your genes. Judaism is definitely an ethnicity though.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
They don't. They are white.

"White" isn't a single ethnic group. There's quite a bit of difference between a white person from, say, Birmingham, versus a white person from Moscow. My understanding was that Jewish people were their own separate ethnic group, as well as a religious group.
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: johnnytightlips
I'm Jewish. I don't think that Jews "get their own race". I don't see how you can say there is a Jewish race, because race is based strictly on genetic components. You can convert to a religion, but you cannot change your genes. Judaism is definitely an ethnicity though.

Ok, so one can't be racist against jews then? It'd be some other type of prejudice, right?
 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
They don't. They are white.

"White" isn't a single ethnic group. There's quite a bit of difference between a white person from, say, Birmingham, versus a white person from Moscow. My understanding was that Jewish people were their own separate ethnic group, as well as a religious group.

He was talking about race, not ethnic group.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Because it was easier for the Nazis to explain they were superior as a race than to say "They are exactly the same as us, but we don't like their religion!".

If you want to claim to be better than others you have to make up a reason why. Same reasoning for the KKK or any other racist organisation.
 

gopunk

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A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.



i think under the definition of race, there is a jewish race.
 

ScottyB

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Originally posted by: notfred
Hindus aren't a race. Christians aren't a race. Muslims aren't a race. Why is it that the Jewish religion is considered a race? I've heard someone call an anti-jewish commnet "racist" many times. Judaism isn't a race though, it's a religion. Why is judaism the only religion whose members get thier own racial group?

They are more special than you, that's why. :p
 

Gameboy999

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By jewish law, your mother must be jewish for you to be considered jewish. No other (major) religion has this requirement
Correct me if I am wrong however.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: Gameboy999
By jewish law, your mother must be jewish for you to be considered jewish. No other (major) religion has this requirement
Correct me if I am wrong however.

You can also convert to Jew. It just requires you to become an Orthodox Jew I think.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: johnnytightlips
I'm Jewish. I don't think that Jews "get their own race". I don't see how you can say there is a Jewish race, because race is based strictly on genetic components. You can convert to a religion, but you cannot change your genes. Judaism is definitely an ethnicity though.

lol yea, just slap a yamika and some glasses on hitler and he looks like a stereotypical jew:) oy!
 

Analog

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Originally posted by: Gameboy999
By jewish law, your mother must be jewish for you to be considered jewish. No other (major) religion has this requirement
Correct me if I am wrong however.

Sammy Davis Jr?
 

guyver01

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Originally posted by: Gameboy999
By jewish law, your mother must be jewish for you to be considered jewish. No other (major) religion has this requirement
Correct me if I am wrong however.

you also have to chop off your wee wee if you haven't yet :Q


:D

<-- jew at birth.


and you ARE correct.

The original and current Jewish definition of a born Jew is someone whose mother is Jewish. Even though the Torah forbids a Jewish woman to marry a Gentile man, if she does, her children will still be Jewish.

The Torah also forbids a Jewish man to marry a Gentile woman, and if he does, his children by that woman will not be Jewish.


 

BDawg

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The notion of race is a sham anyway. It's just people wanting to make distinctions for no good reason. We're all the same species, same race.
 

wiin

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A jew will only marry another jew(correct me if i'm wrong here, please). Isn't that what one would call a racist?
 

BDawg

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Originally posted by: wiin
A jew will only marry another jew(correct me if i'm wrong here, please). Isn't that what one would call a racist?

There are plenty of Jewish, non-Jewish relationships. Just like there are plenty of Asian, non-Asian, Black, non-Black etc. relationships.
 

Amused

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I can't think of any religion that does not forbid marrying outside of it. Only some religions feel more strongly about it than others.