the biggest thing that gets me is how many of those elitist indie fans have the mentality that its only cool if only THEY listen to the music. like its a game and you need to keep the good music only in the hands of the "true fans". heaven forbid a talented group should get popular attention and let the masses hear their music. no, if everyone likes it then its not cool anymore. if i hear a cool band, i want to spread it around and let everyone else know about it, not just keep it to myself...whats the fun in listening to great music alone?