Why do I need the "Java Virtual Machine"?

[transluko]

I have XP. Why isn't it already installed? I keep getting the message that I need to download it but the link given never works.

Micro$oft sucks so much!

 

[amdskip]

Included with service pack 1

 

[arod]

I get the same thing on my laptop but never could find something to install to put it on.... My desktop has it but my laptop doesnt even they were isntalled from teh same CD.

 

[Deeko]

maybe you didn't intstall it w/ windows. when do you get this message

 

[Mday]

java virtual machine, is what allows you to use java. without it java will not work. go to java.sun.com and download sun's jvm.

the lawsuit by sun against MS is why winxp did not come with a jvm.

 

[BCYL]

There was a battle a while along between MS and Sun, so MS cut support for Java from it's products...

That thing is settled now, so you can again download Java support for winXP...

 

[transluko]

the message occurs when it's trying to load java stuff, of course. i'll try downloading from the sun site.

 

[Colt45]

I have a hard time understanding how this is a M$ problem.

SUN owns JAVA, not MS.

 

[yakko]

It is now part of service pack 1 for XP.

 

[Mrburns2007]

First SUN sued to get Java in Windows then they sued to get JAVA out of Windows. To funny.


Basically M$ doesn't want to pay SUN for the linsense so now we all have to use the crappy SUN Java. Java is the first thing from microsoft that was basically small and efficient compared with a competing product.

 

[tcsenter]

Why do I need the "Java Virtual Machine"?

You have made an unauthorized inquiry. If you continue to make unauthorized inquiries questioning the necessity of a Microsoft product or component, I will have no choice but to report you to Microsoft's Department of Product Education, Acceptance, and Conformity. There, you will be sent and held against your will, subjected to re-education measures until you no longer demonstrate a propensity to question the necessity or usefulness of any Microsoft product or component.

 

[fr]

I tried Sun's Java and my comp would freeze for 3 seconds each time I went to a site that had Java.


Back to Virtual Machine.

 

[fluxquantum]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

Why do I need the "Java Virtual Machine"?

You have made an unauthorized inquiry. If you continue to make unauthorized inquiries questioning the necessity of a Microsoft product or component, I will have no choice but to report you to Microsoft's Department of Product Education, Acceptance, and Conformity. There, you will be sent and held against your will, subjected to re-education measures until you no longer demonstrate a propensity to question the necessity or usefulness of any Microsoft product or component.

uhhh...ooookay.

 

[Iron Woode]

I have it on my hdd.

Actually I downloaded it from here

 

Please stop saying JAVA guys, it's "Java".

JAVA = Just Another Vague Acronym

 

[PrincessGuard]

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
First SUN sued to get Java in Windows then they sued to get JAVA out of Windows. To funny.


Basically M$ doesn't want to pay SUN for the linsense so now we all have to use the crappy SUN Java. Java is the first thing from microsoft that was basically small and efficient compared with a competing product.

To be fair to Sun, the MS JVM is "small and efficient" because it is based on an ancient version of Java that Sun made obsolete almost 2 years ago. Some pretty major changes and additions have happened since then.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: PrincessGuard

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
First SUN sued to get Java in Windows then they sued to get JAVA out of Windows. To funny.


Basically M$ doesn't want to pay SUN for the linsense so now we all have to use the crappy SUN Java. Java is the first thing from microsoft that was basically small and efficient compared with a competing product.

To be fair to Sun, the MS JVM is "small and efficient" because it is based on an ancient version of Java that Sun made obsolete almost 2 years ago. Some pretty major changes and additions have happened since then.

Does that mean that programs written for Java 1.4.1 can't be run with the JVM?

 

[NetworkDad]

Java stuff always took forever to load using sun's version for me. Once i upgraded to XP, uninstalled sun, and chose MS vm, all Java loads much quicker.

 

[michaelh20]

>> Does that mean that programs written for Java 1.4.1 can't be run with the JVM?

Can't be run with the MicroSquash version, which I think is version 1.1, or so...

Part of the slow down with browsers is that they are using plugins and not the native VM in the browsers (like they used to have for 1.0 and 1.1 versions). I don't much care for the Java Plugin myself. I wish Sun had just made this a compiling language, and then it wouldn't be so sllllllloooooooowwww..

 

[gopunk]

blame Sun, not microsoft!

 

[KeyserSoze]

Quick question. I'm not sure about this, and it's why I'm asking.


Didn't Sun sue MS because they didn't represent Java properly in MS J++. Like using MS API's in their Dev?

Just Wondering.




KeyserSoze

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: KeyserSoze
Quick question. I'm not sure about this, and it's why I'm asking.


Didn't Sun sue MS because they didn't represent Java properly in MS J++. Like using MS API's in their Dev?

Just Wondering.




KeyserSoze

that's my understanding... they complained that ms was violating the TOS or something. naturally, ms obeyed the law, and ceased violating it

ahaha i love how MS screwed Sun over on that one...

 

[John]

http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html

 

[manly]

Originally posted by: gopunk

that's my understanding... they complained that ms was violating the TOS or something. naturally, ms obeyed the law, and ceased violating it

ahaha i love how MS screwed Sun over on that one...

TOS are for AOL losers, not tech companies.

Your MS fanboy analysis is wrong anyhow. Sun prevented MS from pulling its infamous embrace/extend strategy on Java. Java may not crack the Windows desktop, but on a similar note, MS wasn't able to crack Java in enterprise software.

Sun made the right decision to protect their own interests.

 

[Aceshigh]

I would download SP1 and get it that way. I cannot stand Sun's version of JVM.