Why do black folks have such a distrust for the police and white folks?

[AntiEverything]

Originally posted by: mugs

Well aren't you just anti-everything.

I do my best.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: AntiEverything
Do you think those dealers and gangsters are white? So tell me what race is oppressing blacks?

Right. My point was that throwing money at the situation is not going to make it go away. I mean, how do kids learn if they're too scared to go to class?

 

[Black88GTA]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Black88GTA
With the way the issue is portrayed in media, you'd think that white people are getting away with every crime they commit, where black people are jumped, beaten, and thrown in jail for walking down the street. It's done in a joking way, but that kind of thing works on a subconscious level in terms of how people perceive it IRL.

I think it has a lot to do with the perception that blue collar crimes receive harder punishment when compared to white collar crimes, e.g. Martha Stewart, Enron executives, etc.

True...however, blue collar type crimes usually involve physical violence/threats e.g. holding up a convenience mart with a gun, beating someone, etc., where white-collar crimes typically do not involve physical threats/danger to others - falsifying financial records, insurance fraud, etc.

I would think that the punishment for crimes that put other innocent people in danger is typically more harsh, because the person who committed the crime is seen as more of a danger to society. I don't know this for sure, as I don't know what the typical punishment is for say a c-store robbery vs. insurance fraud, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein

Originally posted by: FleshLight
Because for 2,000 years, the white man has oppressed the black man. That and they need a scapegoat for their problems.

Wow... just wow! 🙁

Open your eyes. You can't hide behind alcohol, you know. The world isn't some fairy land where everything is harmonious.

:beer: Cheers Howard! 🙂

 

[Rebasxer]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: AntiEverything
Do you think those dealers and gangsters are white? So tell me what race is oppressing blacks?

Right. My point was that throwing money at the situation is not going to make it go away. I mean, how do kids learn if they're too scared to go to class?

Not our problem, tell blacks to stop trying to take the easy way out and stop glorifying the drug/gangsta culture and work for sucess the real way. Until that happens the problem will never be solved and racism will continue to grow.

 

[Brackis]

Originally posted by: Rebasxer

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: AntiEverything
Do you think those dealers and gangsters are white? So tell me what race is oppressing blacks?

Right. My point was that throwing money at the situation is not going to make it go away. I mean, how do kids learn if they're too scared to go to class?

Not our problem, tell blacks to stop trying to take the easy way out and stop glorifying the drug/gangsta culture and work for sucess the real way. Until that happens the problem will never be solved and racism will continue to grow.

This lifestyle happenes to be championed by white owned music labels.

 

[Brackis]

Originally posted by: AntiEverything

Originally posted by: Brackis

Add total amount of money spent on child by their parents to all figures and come back to me with an answer.

What does that have to do with anything?

If a kid is being brought up and having his parents spend lots of money to send him to camps, fund their sports and hobbies, feed them more expensive and nutricious oofds, afford better preschool etc... then the kid is setup to achieve more than a kid who is ignored because their parents have to work all the time at lowpaying jobs.
I'd love to hear your retort.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Twista
i dont have a distrust for white people... but mostly every race hates the police.. well every teen in w/e race you name

I grew up in inner city Philly. That meant we were poor, and the blacks there were too. We had our problems with each other (not me personally, but whites/blacks often did). One thing we shared was a fear of the police. Those not well off were better off avoiding them. Having been jumped and beaten by the cops because I was standing at the wrong place at the wrong time, I know why what Twista says is true.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Black88GTA
True...however, blue collar type crimes usually involve physical violence/threats e.g. holding up a convenience mart with a gun, beating someone, etc., where white-collar crimes typically do not involve physical threats/danger to others - falsifying financial records, insurance fraud, etc.

I would think that the punishment for crimes that put other innocent people in danger is typically more harsh, because the person who committed the crime is seen as more of a danger to society. I don't know this for sure, as I don't know what the typical punishment is for say a c-store robbery vs. insurance fraud, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I would say for the most part that is true. But shouldn't punishment deter someone from committing the crime in the first place?

 

[moshquerade]

this thread was started to do nothing but stir the pot :roll:

 

[Mark]

Black people have a reason to distrust the police, because police tend to be harder on blacks than whites or any other race.

 

[Taejin]

Originally posted by: FleshLight
Because for 2,000 years, the white man has oppressed the black man. That and they need a scapegoat for their problems.

Except black people themselves are to blame for the entire problem. It was their leaders and their kings that AGREED for greed and money to sell their people to the Europeans.

The Europeans were twisted enough to buy the slaves, and their leaders were stupid enough to sell them.

(And yes I know people were forcibly taken as well, but the majority were sold..by boatloads).

 

[Whitecloak]

Most criminals are black and that's true.

 

[Nomada]

This continent is not the all successful melting-pot. Whites usually get along best with whites. Blacks with blacks. It's human nature. Now since there are many times more whites than blacks, blacks will always feel singled out and whites will always, unwittingly much of the time, single out blacks( and hispanics, muslim ,et cetera.) Our races cumulatively, are racist, and that aint about to change.

 

fvck da police!

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: whitecloak
Most criminals are black and that's true.

That statement really doesn't say much by itself.

A few ASSumptions that could be made from it are:

Black people are more likely to be criminals.
Black people are unfairly targeted by police officers because of their race.

 

[Black88GTA]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Black88GTA
True...however, blue collar type crimes usually involve physical violence/threats e.g. holding up a convenience mart with a gun, beating someone, etc., where white-collar crimes typically do not involve physical threats/danger to others - falsifying financial records, insurance fraud, etc.

I would think that the punishment for crimes that put other innocent people in danger is typically more harsh, because the person who committed the crime is seen as more of a danger to society. I don't know this for sure, as I don't know what the typical punishment is for say a c-store robbery vs. insurance fraud, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I would say for the most part that is true. But shouldn't punishment deter someone from committing the crime in the first place?

Good point....but I would think that rational thought tends to go out the window when you're desparate for cash, need your next fix, are encouraged by friends, involved with a gang, etc. For some in very low income areas, with little or no education, that's all they know.

Many will accept the risk for some quick, easy cash, rather than work 30 hours a week at some McJob for minimum wage. Not to mention, I would imagine that you'd be pretty much viewed as a "punk" if you were to take a Mickey D's job over the illegal (but more lucrative) alternative.

Besides, they know that the overall risk that they'll be caught is relatively low, due to inadequate / overworked police, with too many crimes to worry about, and not enough time / manpower to devote to all of them.

There will always be people committing crimes, regardless of the punishment. Especially when they know that even if they are caught, they'll be out on parole in a few months (assuming their crime isn't *really* bad.)

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Black88GTA
will always be people committing crimes, regardless of the punishment. Especially when they know that even if they are caught, they'll be out on parole in a few months (assuming their crime isn't *really* bad.)

I agree, but that mentality is the same when talking about white collar crimes also (especially when talking about people who have loads of money and good lawyers on their side). What motivation does a millionaire have to embezzle more money?

 

[Ryuson99]

White people hate what they yet to understand?

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: whitecloak
Most criminals are black and that's true.

Um, no. They're overrepresented proportionately by race, but those statistics neglect economic class, which undoubtedly has a more profound impact on criminality.

 

[Black88GTA]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Black88GTA
will always be people committing crimes, regardless of the punishment. Especially when they know that even if they are caught, they'll be out on parole in a few months (assuming their crime isn't *really* bad.)

I agree, but that mentality is the same when talking about white collar crimes also (especially when talking about people who have loads of money and good lawyers on their side). What motivation does a millionaire have to embezzle more money?

There's no good answer for that. Pure greed is the best I can come up with. Some people are just never happy, no matter how much they already have. Or possibly the very fact that they do have a high-priced team of lawyers, and enough money to post bail for themselves, gives them a false sense of invincibility when it comes to actually serving time for what they've done?

 

[LordMorpheus]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: AntiEverything
Is that not at least partly true? Here in Minneapolis the inner city schools spend more per student than many schools in the suburbs but have a lower graduation rate. It's not like we're not giving inner city kids the opportunity to become educated. They'd just prefer not to be.

I never had to deal with drug dealers and gangstas waiting outside my classroom to shoot me when class was over.

I went to a highschool in a fairly rough part of the city. It was a private high school, but my point is the neighborhood (and we did have gets getting mugged at the bus stop and countless car break-ins) didn't stop all of us from getting great educations.

Its not that they have to deal with crime, I believe when a student doesn't it make it through basic schooling the problem is, 90% of the time, lazy parenting.

 

[Generator]

Do you people believe that in some small, innocent way that white people look upon black skin (not black people) negatively?

 

[Brackis]

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: AntiEverything
Is that not at least partly true? Here in Minneapolis the inner city schools spend more per student than many schools in the suburbs but have a lower graduation rate. It's not like we're not giving inner city kids the opportunity to become educated. They'd just prefer not to be.

I never had to deal with drug dealers and gangstas waiting outside my classroom to shoot me when class was over.

I went to a highschool in a fairly rough part of the city. It was a private high school, but my point is the neighborhood (and we did have gets getting mugged at the bus stop and countless car break-ins) didn't stop all of us from getting great educations.

Its not that they have to deal with crime, I believe when a student doesn't it make it through basic schooling the problem is, 90% of the time, lazy parenting.

Did you live and grow up in that neighborhood? Kthnx

 

[AntiEverything]

Originally posted by: Brackis

Originally posted by: AntiEverything

Originally posted by: Brackis

Add total amount of money spent on child by their parents to all figures and come back to me with an answer.

What does that have to do with anything?

If a kid is being brought up and having his parents spend lots of money to send him to camps, fund their sports and hobbies, feed them more expensive and nutricious oofds, afford better preschool etc... then the kid is setup to achieve more than a kid who is ignored because their parents have to work all the time at lowpaying jobs.
I'd love to hear your retort.

I'd love to run you over. Then back up and do it again. Unfortunely we can't always get everything we want.

If you think it requires money to love your child, and make them feel loved, then you're a sad excuse for a human being and hope you never have children.