Why do Asians make good doughnuts?

Exterous

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I occasionally like to get a doughnut for breakfast when traveling and prefer to frequent the non-chain doughnut places. You usually get a good to excellent doughnut for much less than someplace like Timmy Hoe's or Dunkin. Having tried several places over the last couple of years I have had some excellent ones and some terrible ones. One constant remains though - I have never had a bad doughnut at a doughnut place run by asians. The worst one was maybe a 'good' doughnut (which I rank slightly ahead of the chain ones) with most falling into the 'excellent' or the even better 'excellent + super cheap' category.

What type of training do asians get in the art of doughnut making that the rest of us miss out on? Is there some sort of link between kung fu and doughnuts?
 

lxskllr

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By Asian, do you mean Indian? Seems like doughnut places both big and small have more Indian ownership that one would expect. I wonder why.
 

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Where I live, it's asian for sure, specifically Cambodian. Not sure why, but a friend of mine married into a Cambodian family and his wife's relatives own like 3 shops in town. He said in Long Beach where he lived previously, there were a ton of Cambodians running donut shops in the SoCal area. He didn't know why though.
 

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It's funny, my wife and I were talking yesterday about dentists, I think I need a root canal, and our dentist does referrals for that sort of work. She had been referred to this Asian dentist and she said he was good so I said, oh, book me an appointment with him. I've had good luck with Asian dentists, they have an attention to detail that I like. I actually said that to her. Was that racist?

True story. :biggrin:
 

Svnla

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Don't know about doughnuts but most, if not all, nail salons are own/run by Asians around here.
 

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There is a donut shop in West St. Paul MN owned by (I believe) a Korean couple that makes the best donuts by far than any chain or other shop around. I attribute it to the better work ethic - willing to get up in the middle of the night to start one's day, and the desire to perfect one's art. They have been in business for over 20 years, and consistently sell out everything they make. Actually, they struggle to keep up and tend to have little to sell during the 10-12 hours.
 

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have you seen those pyschos drive in their own country. its insane. i think its because they're use to driving without traffic signals and just drive expecting everything to flow around them. kind of like crossing the street in se asia...you just cross and the traffic flows around you.
Explain your driving.
 

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Why do loner white guys go mass murdering?

Because white men are more driven to individual achievement and exceptionalism? Usually in good ways, but sometimes in bad?

The same reason if someone's attempting a solo balloon flight around the world, or a skydive from outer space... you can pretty much bet your ass it's a "loner white guy" ?

The same reason it's a "loner white guy" 99 times out of 100 inventing any important new technology over the last several hundred years?

Or how it was almost entirely white guys who were responsible for us going to the moon and doing everything else in space we've done?

Or how when Asian music prodigies play music it's almost always something that was composed by a loner white guy from Europe?

Or how almost every great novelist or philosopher or great thinker has been a loner white guy?

I guess the dark side of that is sometimes you get a shooting spree. Probably worth it. Mind you, there have been loner black guys who have done mass shootings too.
 

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Where I live, it's asian for sure, specifically Cambodian. Not sure why, but a friend of mine married into a Cambodian family and his wife's relatives own like 3 shops in town. He said in Long Beach where he lived previously, there were a ton of Cambodians running donut shops in the SoCal area. He didn't know why though.

Because back the 80's when one Cambodian saved enough money to get a donut shop and made good money, his other Cambodian friends also did the same.

Koing
 

madoka

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Where I live, it's asian for sure, specifically Cambodian. Not sure why, but a friend of mine married into a Cambodian family and his wife's relatives own like 3 shops in town. He said in Long Beach where he lived previously, there were a ton of Cambodians running donut shops in the SoCal area. He didn't know why though.

A Cambodian immigrant named Ted Ngoy started the trend. He got into donuts because he wouldn't be handicapped by the language barrier as much as in other businesses. After opening a chain of his own shops, he started training other Cambodians because he saw more opportunities in selling supplies to these new donut makers. By the mid-'90s, 80% of California's donut shops were Cambodian owned and operated.

Now you know. :)
 

Exterous

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Hint: None of it is made by Asians, it's all make by Mexicans.

False. I have seen them making the doughnuts with my own eyes

What the f does kung fu have to do with anything?

Everything!

A Cambodian immigrant named Ted Ngoy started the trend. He got into donuts because he wouldn't be handicapped by the language barrier as much as in other businesses. After opening a chain of his own shops, he started training other Cambodians because he saw more opportunities in selling supplies to these new donut makers. By the mid-'90s, 80% of California's donut shops were Cambodian owned and operated.

Now you know. :)

Interesting. Most of the traveling I do for business in in CA or close to teh west coast so that would explain a lot. Still - a fair number of asian doughnut places in Michigan too
 

madoka

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Interesting. Most of the traveling I do for business in in CA or close to teh west coast so that would explain a lot. Still - a fair number of asian doughnut places in Michigan too

Ted Ngoy's story is almost unbelievable. From a fairytale romance to becoming a politically connected multi-millionaire to now being a homeless vagrant.

Check out how he met his wife:

He was born Bun Tek Ngoy. His mother raised him in a rural village near Cambodia's border with Thailand. He was Chinese Cambodian, part of a despised underclass.

In 1967, his mother sent him to study in Phnom Penh, the capital. At school, Ngoy fell in love from afar with a beautiful girl. Her name was Suganthini Khoeun. Her father was a high-ranking government official. Her brother-in-law, Sutsakhan Sak, was chief of police and would become, briefly, the country's president.

Suganthini's parents hoped she would marry well. Until then, she was kept sheltered. At 16, she had no friends, could not talk to boys and was forbidden to leave home alone.

Ngoy lived in an attic apartment a few blocks from the Khoeun family's mansion. The son of a peddler had no chance with such a girl, no right even to think of loving her. But one night, he had an idea.

He sat on the roof of his apartment and played his flute, the music sweeping over the neighborhood. Suganthini and her mother heard the music. Those are the sounds of a man in love, her mother said.

Ngoy wrote to her. I am the flute player, he said in a note passed through the family's maid. A week later, Suganthini wrote back, and the two began a secret correspondence. Ngoy asked to visit.

"I don't think you dare come to my room," she responded. Soldiers and dogs guarded the mansion. One night in a pouring rain, Ngoy scaled a coconut tree beside the wall surrounding her home. He cut his chest sliding under barbed wire. From the wall, he leaped onto the roof and crawled through an open window. Drenched and bleeding, he tiptoed into a hallway. He had to guess which room was hers.

He opened a door, and there she was.

Suganthini was terrified, but she let the stranger stay. For the next 45 days, he lived in her room. He slept under the bed and hid when the maids came to clean.

Late at night, Ngoy would put Suganthini on his back and climb down the roof, then down the coconut tree. They would speed through Phnom Penh on his motorcycle, the couple recalled. Before sunrise, they would climb back into her room.

One night under a full moon, they knelt and prayed. They pricked their fingers and squeezed drops of blood into a cup of water. They both drank and vowed to be faithful.

Eventually, her parents discovered Ngoy and threw him out. They arranged a meeting for the couple at a relative's house, where Ngoy was expected to formally end their romance. Her parents and cousins hid behind curtains so they could hear him break off the relationship.

Ngoy told Suganthini that he didn't love her. He was a fraud, he said.

Then he pulled a knife. That is a lie, he cried, and plunged the blade into his belly. Suganthini's father ran out from hiding and called an ambulance.

Suganthini's parents kept her locked in her room for days. Distraught, she took an overdose of sleeping pills and fell into a coma.

When the couple recovered, her parents finally allowed them to marry.
 

lxskllr

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I don't go to doughnut shops often, but in MD, it seems like they're all Indian. Years ago I worked at a bakery, and really burned out on doughnuts. They don't taste as good as they once did.