Why do apple products just work?

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joecool

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
I just think of the exploding macbooks, short life expectancy of ipods, and the apple wifi fiasco.

Yeap.

what wifi fiasco?
 

SoundTheSurrender

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Obviously you haven't read, been a part of, or experienced all of the issues with iTunes running properly on Windows. The software is a pile of trash. Of course it does run fine on a mac.

Oh and I'm not talking about iTunes on Vista but on XP

iTunes runs fine in XP for me.
 

joecool

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Originally posted by: doze
Apple hardware is nice but overpriced and I have never been impressed by quicktime or itunes. Apple software seems to do many different things ok while attempting to take over your machine.

indeed, this is why i refuse to install quicktime, even if it means i miss out on some videos. it's just not worth having apple take over my machine. this is why i don't like them - they're reason for making things "just work" seems to be that they think all users are idiots, and can't make decisions for themselves, therefor they make all the decisions for you.
 

EKKC

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Originally posted by: joecool
Originally posted by: doze
Apple hardware is nice but overpriced and I have never been impressed by quicktime or itunes. Apple software seems to do many different things ok while attempting to take over your machine.

indeed, this is why i refuse to install quicktime, even if it means i miss out on some videos. it's just not worth having apple take over my machine. this is why i don't like them - they're reason for making things "just work" seems to be that they think all users are idiots, and can't make decisions for themselves, therefor they make all the decisions for you.

Apple Quicktime FTL
QuickTime Alternative FTW
Real Player FTL
Real Alternative FTW

K-Lite Mega Codec Pack FTFW
 

amddude

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Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: amddude
What about that airport wireless that can't handle vpn connections? That is friggin sad.

I was under the impression that most routers can't handle VPN...

Uh, my poor man's d-link seems to let me vpn everywhere just fine.
 

Philippine Mango

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Originally posted by: amddude
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Originally posted by: amddude
What about that airport wireless that can't handle vpn connections? That is friggin sad.

I was under the impression that most routers can't handle VPN...

Uh, my poor man's d-link seems to let me vpn everywhere just fine.

Then again the only routers I've worked with are from the '01/'02 era but IIRC my friend's 802.11G router doesn't have VPN support either, from what I know which is limited due to it being his and not mine ;) When did this become a common feature anyways?
 

IGBT

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..my nephew has gone thru numerous ipods. in a rough and tumble world they don't hold up. Not shure if any mp-3 player would but the build quality and the bad from stock failure of apple products seems bad. If it wasen't for the blind devotion of their user base and microsoft's financial transfusion they would have gone under years ago.
 

fleshconsumed

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Just work? Ahahaha.... Installed quicktime plugin for firefox couple of months ago, never worked right. First the video didn't play right, had only video but not the sound. Second, it defaulted to play mp3s, I tried to remove associations, it refused, WTF? Finally made decision to uninstall and get what, it didn't even uninstall correctly. Had to manually delete files after it. Yeah, works my ass. My dad's iPod has abysmal battery life, froze twice during normal operation and once during firmware update (which I believe has been unofficially confirmed by apple). BTW, since we are on firmware topic, why the hell does iPod firmware 60MB in size? Crap is crap...
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: EKKC
even apple admitted, besides graphics and publishing work, mac is designed for home users while the business users are completely windows dominated

Apple needs to admit that (at least based on my experience as a cross platform user) graphics applications really are just a big pain in the ass on macs... I've NEVER EVER had HALF of the errors I do with the Creative Suite on macs, this includes the brand spanking new iMac I got at work all the way down to the POS 400MHz G4 they started me on. Not to mention the font issues. Oh my GOD the font issues. How can anyone say that macs are superior for graphics and publishing when half of the time you try and use fonts they magically get corrupted or just start inserting random characters instead of letters? The fact that right-clicking is a non-existant feature in any of the graphics programs on macs amazes me. Apple even f**cked up a multi-button mouse trying to make it "hip" and "plain-looking in a sexy way". How do you f**k up something that's been around for 15 years? Because they are too set in their ways to add true-right clicking... every right-click function is now "CTRL+Click"... which means now you gotta go with these insance 3-button "quick" key combos for normal commands that require you to bring your hand over from the mouse anyway. Why bother?

You wanna know the REAL reason that this myth was pulled out of people's asses? Because all the tards that bought into that whole "Macs come in pretty colors now" campaign switched over and didn't want to feel stupid for buying into one of the lamest marketing ploys ever. I mean, the orange ones were gauranteed to run programs at least 22% faster simply because they were orange! The green ones boosted productivity 13%! The second reason this BS myth was created is that dinosaur crap of a program Quark. Yeah, you know, the one that is BARELY foward compatible? It doesn't run on a PC. You can pay for it... you can install it... but good luck getting it to work. It runs slightly better on a mac than a kid with two peg legs and vertigo running a marathon. But somehow, some jackasses still consider it "industry standard software". You know why? THE SOFTWARE ONLY HAS ONE COMPETITOR AND NOBODY IS EFFICIENT WITH IT.

Macs are good for one department. Audio/Visual editing. You know why? Because companies are too damn stupid to make hardware that works with PCs, and Final Cut Pro doesn't exist on PCs. Yeah. That's it. You A/V people... go ahead... enjoy your macs. F**k graphics and publishing on macs.

The thing that perhaps bothers me the most is that when something does go wrong (and it happens a lot more often that any mac user will even get close to admitting) there is little to support for the problem. It never seems like anyone knows how to fix something. Anytime I look for help it's always "sorry about your luck, here's an extensive workaround that won't fix the problem, but it'll be fine when you brush it under the rug."

Apple products just work? No no... you're so wrong it hurts. Apple produces an uncustomizable piece of crap with all sorts of expensive uncustomizable proprietary garbage and tells the jackasses buying it that it's the standard because they're too stupid to NOT believe it and NOT want to do things their own way. (at least not without buying more useless clunky error-causing software)

I've never met a mac user that can explain to me why macs are better... but they sure as hell try. I mean if "Because Bill Gates is the devil" and "Because macs don't crash" were true statements, I might actually cosider their opinions.

People's inability to use a PC without installing all sorts of dumb crap and toasting their own system is no reason to believe that you can't f**k up a mac.
 

her209

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Oh, you want that new hardware you just bought to work in your Mac? Too bad...
 

preslove

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My macbook and several other mac laptops I've worked with have had trouble with DHCP. It's a pain in the ass to get them to get a new ip.