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Looney

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
The day comes first because it's the most specific, then the month, then the year.

It's in order of how specific.

YOUR system is the "wack" one.

Um, as far as i've seen, the only people who are using the 'wack' system, is American.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: logic1485
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: notfred
I use yyyy-mm-dd

All other systems are stupid. Everyone should use the ISO standard.

:thumbsup: This is the first thing I change on PCs I have to use for any period of time. Sorting files by date actually means something in this format.

I still don't understand that argument.

You still have to look at the end 6 digits, might as well look at the first 6 digits. I find that particularly easy. Meh, I guess to each his own.

Click on "sort by date" and you can get: (used to with Windows Explorer - they may have fixed it, but it still holds true for scripts that treat the date as a text field for sorting purposes)

01.02.2003
01.03.2004
01.04.2001
01.07.2006
02.19.2003
02.22.2002
05.01.1997


You get this becasue 01.xx.xxxx comes before 05.xx.xxxx, no matter waht's behind the x's. Who the hell wants things sorted by "month" or "day of the month?" We want them sorted by "oldest" to "newest."

1997.05.01
2001.01.04
2002.02.22
2003.01.02
2003.02.19
2004.01.03
2006.01.07


Which YYYY-MM-DD will always do, whether they are treated as calendar dates or as mere text fields.
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: logic1485
Originally posted by: JS80
We already know what year it is, so it's really yyyy-mm-dd but put the yyyy last because it doesn't change for 365 days.

For all you people saying something similar to JS80, you guys must not be achiving stuff over a couple of years, even if it is just old school notes. You may want to know what year your stuff came from, for any amount of reasons, one of those being: which year did you buy that car or house or even iron.

But if it is more then 1 year I don't care about the day or month.
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: NFS4
How about this? Quit the bull**** arguing and use whatever is most efficient/proper for your needs.

No one way is right or wrong.

Yea, actually it is important - absent any context, what is this date: 01/12/2003
 
Dec 27, 2001
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You know why we use Imperial measurements? Cause metric is stupid. Roger Bannister was the first man to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Check that, he was the first man to run 1600 meters in 4 minutes. See? No drama attached to that sentence. Hell, it even begs the question...who was first under 4 minutes for 1500 or 1625 or 799? All distances become relative to the meter. You begin seeing things in relation to this small distance. When somebody says that a building is 40 meters tall, you need to extrapolate, in your mind, what 40 meters will look like. Same with 5000 meters or 2 meters. You've always got to keep going back to the meter.

A mile is a concept as much as a length. It isn't a distance easily run. It's hard to see things at that distance. It means something. Someone says a mile, you don't care, you just know that's damn far. Excuse us if we haven't sold our souls for inter-continental compliance.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You know why we use Imperial measurements? Cause metric is stupid. Roger Bannister was the first man to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Check that, he was the first man to run 1600 meters in 4 minutes. See? No drama attached to that sentence. Hell, it even begs the question...who was first under 4 minutes for 1500 or 1625 or 799? All distances become relative to the meter. You begin seeing things in relation to this small distance. When somebody says that a building is 40 meters tall, you need to extrapolate, in your mind, what 40 meters will look like. Same with 5000 meters or 2 meters. You've always got to keep going back to the meter.

A mile is a concept as much as a length. It isn't a distance easily run. It's hard to see things at that distance. It means something. Someone says a mile, you don't care, you just know that's damn far. Excuse us if we haven't sold our souls for inter-continental compliance.

Wow. For some reason, that really touched my heart. (I'm not even being sarcastic)
It's like I knew what the answer was but I didn't know how to express it, and you just took my thoughts and put it down into words. :thumbsup:
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You know why we use Imperial measurements? Cause metric is stupid. Roger Bannister was the first man to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Check that, he was the first man to run 1600 meters in 4 minutes. See? No drama attached to that sentence. Hell, it even begs the question...who was first under 4 minutes for 1500 or 1625 or 799? All distances become relative to the meter. You begin seeing things in relation to this small distance. When somebody says that a building is 40 meters tall, you need to extrapolate, in your mind, what 40 meters will look like. Same with 5000 meters or 2 meters. You've always got to keep going back to the meter.

A mile is a concept as much as a length. It isn't a distance easily run. It's hard to see things at that distance. It means something. Someone says a mile, you don't care, you just know that's damn far. Excuse us if we haven't sold our souls for inter-continental compliance.

Yep, that's right... use a system that's convoluted for everything else in life because it doesn't have enough drama for sports record.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You know why we use Imperial measurements? Cause metric is stupid. Roger Bannister was the first man to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Check that, he was the first man to run 1600 meters in 4 minutes. See? No drama attached to that sentence. Hell, it even begs the question...who was first under 4 minutes for 1500 or 1625 or 799? All distances become relative to the meter. You begin seeing things in relation to this small distance. When somebody says that a building is 40 meters tall, you need to extrapolate, in your mind, what 40 meters will look like. Same with 5000 meters or 2 meters. You've always got to keep going back to the meter.

A mile is a concept as much as a length. It isn't a distance easily run. It's hard to see things at that distance. It means something. Someone says a mile, you don't care, you just know that's damn far. Excuse us if we haven't sold our souls for inter-continental compliance.

Yep, that's right... use a system that's convoluted for everything else in life because it doesn't have enough drama for sports record.

:laugh:
 
Dec 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You know why we use Imperial measurements? Cause metric is stupid. Roger Bannister was the first man to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Check that, he was the first man to run 1600 meters in 4 minutes. See? No drama attached to that sentence. Hell, it even begs the question...who was first under 4 minutes for 1500 or 1625 or 799? All distances become relative to the meter. You begin seeing things in relation to this small distance. When somebody says that a building is 40 meters tall, you need to extrapolate, in your mind, what 40 meters will look like. Same with 5000 meters or 2 meters. You've always got to keep going back to the meter.

A mile is a concept as much as a length. It isn't a distance easily run. It's hard to see things at that distance. It means something. Someone says a mile, you don't care, you just know that's damn far. Excuse us if we haven't sold our souls for inter-continental compliance.

Yep, that's right... use a system that's convoluted for everything else in life because it doesn't have enough drama for sports record.

Yeah, it's a wonder the United States has become the dominate superpower in the world using this "convoluted" system. :roll:
 

SampSon

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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You know why we use Imperial measurements? Cause metric is stupid. Roger Bannister was the first man to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Check that, he was the first man to run 1600 meters in 4 minutes. See? No drama attached to that sentence. Hell, it even begs the question...who was first under 4 minutes for 1500 or 1625 or 799? All distances become relative to the meter. You begin seeing things in relation to this small distance. When somebody says that a building is 40 meters tall, you need to extrapolate, in your mind, what 40 meters will look like. Same with 5000 meters or 2 meters. You've always got to keep going back to the meter.

A mile is a concept as much as a length. It isn't a distance easily run. It's hard to see things at that distance. It means something. Someone says a mile, you don't care, you just know that's damn far. Excuse us if we haven't sold our souls for inter-continental compliance.

Yep, that's right... use a system that's convoluted for everything else in life because it doesn't have enough drama for sports record.
Who cares about everyone else? Not everyone has to use the same systems.

If everyone should have the same system then why don't we have a global currency? (gold doesn't count).
 
Feb 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You know why we use Imperial measurements? Cause metric is stupid. Roger Bannister was the first man to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Check that, he was the first man to run 1600 meters in 4 minutes. See? No drama attached to that sentence. Hell, it even begs the question...who was first under 4 minutes for 1500 or 1625 or 799? All distances become relative to the meter. You begin seeing things in relation to this small distance. When somebody says that a building is 40 meters tall, you need to extrapolate, in your mind, what 40 meters will look like. Same with 5000 meters or 2 meters. You've always got to keep going back to the meter.

A mile is a concept as much as a length. It isn't a distance easily run. It's hard to see things at that distance. It means something. Someone says a mile, you don't care, you just know that's damn far. Excuse us if we haven't sold our souls for inter-continental compliance.

Yep, that's right... use a system that's convoluted for everything else in life because it doesn't have enough drama for sports record.
Who cares about everyone else? Not everyone has to use the same systems.

If everyone should have the same system then why don't we have a global currency? (gold doesn't count).

Uhhh flawed argument. What does 40 meters look like? Flip it around. What does 40 feet look like? Honestly, meters are more logical than feet.

Sure he ran 1600 metesr in 4 min, but he also ran 1.6 km in 4 minutes. If we didnt have the mile, we would be tlaking about how fast people run kilometers.

Thus. Dead even draw.

The only thing that makes more sense is the whole factor of 10s. I say its easier because everything is a multiple of 10. Other than that, for the mind to get used to either, it's about the same...
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You know why we use Imperial measurements? Cause metric is stupid. Roger Bannister was the first man to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Check that, he was the first man to run 1600 meters in 4 minutes. See? No drama attached to that sentence. Hell, it even begs the question...who was first under 4 minutes for 1500 or 1625 or 799? All distances become relative to the meter. You begin seeing things in relation to this small distance. When somebody says that a building is 40 meters tall, you need to extrapolate, in your mind, what 40 meters will look like. Same with 5000 meters or 2 meters. You've always got to keep going back to the meter.

A mile is a concept as much as a length. It isn't a distance easily run. It's hard to see things at that distance. It means something. Someone says a mile, you don't care, you just know that's damn far. Excuse us if we haven't sold our souls for inter-continental compliance.

Yep, that's right... use a system that's convoluted for everything else in life because it doesn't have enough drama for sports record.

Yeah, it's a wonder the United States has become the dominate superpower in the world using this "convoluted" system. :roll:

It also become the dominate superpower in the world using horse-drawn carriages, slavery, and shitting in dirt holes in their backyard while wearing powdered wigs. Funny you don't see much of that going on anymore.

You fail at logic.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You know why we use Imperial measurements? Cause metric is stupid. Roger Bannister was the first man to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Check that, he was the first man to run 1600 meters in 4 minutes. See? No drama attached to that sentence. Hell, it even begs the question...who was first under 4 minutes for 1500 or 1625 or 799? All distances become relative to the meter. You begin seeing things in relation to this small distance. When somebody says that a building is 40 meters tall, you need to extrapolate, in your mind, what 40 meters will look like. Same with 5000 meters or 2 meters. You've always got to keep going back to the meter.

A mile is a concept as much as a length. It isn't a distance easily run. It's hard to see things at that distance. It means something. Someone says a mile, you don't care, you just know that's damn far. Excuse us if we haven't sold our souls for inter-continental compliance.

Yep, that's right... use a system that's convoluted for everything else in life because it doesn't have enough drama for sports record.

Yeah, it's a wonder the United States has become the dominate superpower in the world using this "convoluted" system. :roll:

Well, part of the reason why it's become a superpower was because it was able to exploit slavery and used that cheap labor to build a strong base for the economy to build on. And because a lot of the people who came to America, had the type of spirit who would be willing to give up all their possessions in a world they knew and was safe in, to take a risk in a foreign land and start over, hoping to build a better life.

But i can see your point... since you can't argue on the issue, you're trying to cheerleader an issue that has nothing to do with it, because it would be senseless to argue on that. We all know how militarily strong a nation is compared to the rest of the world reflects how great a society it really is to live in. Yep, Russia is the second best country to live aside from the US.
 
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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You know why we use Imperial measurements? Cause metric is stupid. Roger Bannister was the first man to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Check that, he was the first man to run 1600 meters in 4 minutes. See? No drama attached to that sentence. Hell, it even begs the question...who was first under 4 minutes for 1500 or 1625 or 799? All distances become relative to the meter. You begin seeing things in relation to this small distance. When somebody says that a building is 40 meters tall, you need to extrapolate, in your mind, what 40 meters will look like. Same with 5000 meters or 2 meters. You've always got to keep going back to the meter.

A mile is a concept as much as a length. It isn't a distance easily run. It's hard to see things at that distance. It means something. Someone says a mile, you don't care, you just know that's damn far. Excuse us if we haven't sold our souls for inter-continental compliance.

Yep, that's right... use a system that's convoluted for everything else in life because it doesn't have enough drama for sports record.

Yeah, it's a wonder the United States has become the dominate superpower in the world using this "convoluted" system. :roll:

It also become the dominate superpower in the world using horse-drawn carriages, slavery, and shitting in dirt holes in their backyard while wearing powdered wigs. Funny you don't see much of that going on anymore.

You fail at logic.

The rest of the world did that too. Logic would tell you that, while the Imperial measurement system might not be what cused the success, it obviously didn't hinder it.

Funny you claim logic. I've taken 3 college courses on it. How many have you taken?
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You know why we use Imperial measurements? Cause metric is stupid. Roger Bannister was the first man to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Check that, he was the first man to run 1600 meters in 4 minutes. See? No drama attached to that sentence. Hell, it even begs the question...who was first under 4 minutes for 1500 or 1625 or 799? All distances become relative to the meter. You begin seeing things in relation to this small distance. When somebody says that a building is 40 meters tall, you need to extrapolate, in your mind, what 40 meters will look like. Same with 5000 meters or 2 meters. You've always got to keep going back to the meter.

A mile is a concept as much as a length. It isn't a distance easily run. It's hard to see things at that distance. It means something. Someone says a mile, you don't care, you just know that's damn far. Excuse us if we haven't sold our souls for inter-continental compliance.

Yep, that's right... use a system that's convoluted for everything else in life because it doesn't have enough drama for sports record.
Who cares about everyone else? Not everyone has to use the same systems.

Well, it would be good if everybody uses the same system... since this is a global economy and global village and all now. That probe that crashed into Mars a few years back probably wouldn't have happened too.

But that's not what i said. I said it was dumb to use a system simply because it didn't have enough drama for sporting statistics.

If everyone should have the same system then why don't we have a global currency? (gold doesn't count).

Why doesn't it count?
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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To confuse everyone else who is too stupid to figure out what format it is in.

/thread
 
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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You know why we use Imperial measurements? Cause metric is stupid. Roger Bannister was the first man to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Check that, he was the first man to run 1600 meters in 4 minutes. See? No drama attached to that sentence. Hell, it even begs the question...who was first under 4 minutes for 1500 or 1625 or 799? All distances become relative to the meter. You begin seeing things in relation to this small distance. When somebody says that a building is 40 meters tall, you need to extrapolate, in your mind, what 40 meters will look like. Same with 5000 meters or 2 meters. You've always got to keep going back to the meter.

A mile is a concept as much as a length. It isn't a distance easily run. It's hard to see things at that distance. It means something. Someone says a mile, you don't care, you just know that's damn far. Excuse us if we haven't sold our souls for inter-continental compliance.

Yep, that's right... use a system that's convoluted for everything else in life because it doesn't have enough drama for sports record.

Yeah, it's a wonder the United States has become the dominate superpower in the world using this "convoluted" system. :roll:

Well, part of the reason why it's become a superpower was because it was able to exploit slavery and used that cheap labor to build a strong base for the economy to build on. And because a lot of the people who came to America, had the type of spirit who would be willing to give up all their possessions in a world they knew and was safe in, to take a risk in a foreign land and start over, hoping to build a better life.

But i can see your point... since you can't argue on the issue, you're trying to cheerleader an issue that has nothing to do with it, because it would be senseless to argue on that. We all know how militarily strong a nation is compared to the rest of the world reflects how great a society it really is to live in. Yep, Russia is the second best country to live aside from the US.

Except, Russia's military really isn't that strong anymore, and their economy sucks balls... The United States, contrary to popular belief, has a relatively strong economy
 

JDrake

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Your Anandtech overlords chose the MM/DD/YYYY method.
If I were you, I wouldn't anger them :Q
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You know why we use Imperial measurements? Cause metric is stupid. Roger Bannister was the first man to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Check that, he was the first man to run 1600 meters in 4 minutes. See? No drama attached to that sentence. Hell, it even begs the question...who was first under 4 minutes for 1500 or 1625 or 799? All distances become relative to the meter. You begin seeing things in relation to this small distance. When somebody says that a building is 40 meters tall, you need to extrapolate, in your mind, what 40 meters will look like. Same with 5000 meters or 2 meters. You've always got to keep going back to the meter.

A mile is a concept as much as a length. It isn't a distance easily run. It's hard to see things at that distance. It means something. Someone says a mile, you don't care, you just know that's damn far. Excuse us if we haven't sold our souls for inter-continental compliance.

Yep, that's right... use a system that's convoluted for everything else in life because it doesn't have enough drama for sports record.

Yeah, it's a wonder the United States has become the dominate superpower in the world using this "convoluted" system. :roll:

It also become the dominate superpower in the world using horse-drawn carriages, slavery, and shitting in dirt holes in their backyard while wearing powdered wigs. Funny you don't see much of that going on anymore.

You fail at logic.

The rest of the world did that too. Logic would tell you that, while the Imperial measurement system might not be what cused the success, it obviously didn't hinder it.

Funny you claim logic. I've taken 3 college courses on it. How many have you taken?

Oh oh oh, i have a minor in philosophy! Do i beat you?
 

Phlargo

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Originally posted by: joedrake
Because month and year are the most important, so you can just chop out the middle
AKA:
Today is 4/3/2006
but get rid of that 3 for more general
4/2006
or 4/06

Have you ever played JENGA? You take out the middle peices first... duhhhh.


That's a pretty silly argument - if you want the month/year combo in the other system, you can find a hundred other equally justifiable reasons why you removing the first part is easier than the middle. It has nothing to do with it. We do it merely out of tradition.
 
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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You know why we use Imperial measurements? Cause metric is stupid. Roger Bannister was the first man to run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Check that, he was the first man to run 1600 meters in 4 minutes. See? No drama attached to that sentence. Hell, it even begs the question...who was first under 4 minutes for 1500 or 1625 or 799? All distances become relative to the meter. You begin seeing things in relation to this small distance. When somebody says that a building is 40 meters tall, you need to extrapolate, in your mind, what 40 meters will look like. Same with 5000 meters or 2 meters. You've always got to keep going back to the meter.

A mile is a concept as much as a length. It isn't a distance easily run. It's hard to see things at that distance. It means something. Someone says a mile, you don't care, you just know that's damn far. Excuse us if we haven't sold our souls for inter-continental compliance.

Yep, that's right... use a system that's convoluted for everything else in life because it doesn't have enough drama for sports record.

Yeah, it's a wonder the United States has become the dominate superpower in the world using this "convoluted" system. :roll:

It also become the dominate superpower in the world using horse-drawn carriages, slavery, and shitting in dirt holes in their backyard while wearing powdered wigs. Funny you don't see much of that going on anymore.

You fail at logic.

The rest of the world did that too. Logic would tell you that, while the Imperial measurement system might not be what cused the success, it obviously didn't hinder it.

Funny you claim logic. I've taken 3 college courses on it. How many have you taken?

Oh oh oh, i have a minor in philosophy! Do i beat you?

Only if I told you you failed logic.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
The rest of the world did that too. Logic would tell you that, while the Imperial measurement system might not be what cused the success, it obviously didn't hinder it.

Funny you claim logic. I've taken 3 college courses on it. How many have you taken?

Funny, your "The plane does not take off" in another thread and the above post are just enough to indicate that, while you may have taken 3 whole logic courses in college, you obviously spent your time staring out the window and picking your nose.

Again, horse-drawn carriages obviously didn't "hinder" the US's success, so why aren't we still using them? Are you trying to tell me that we adopted a more efficient and streamlined system of transportation for no good reason? That it was "stupid" to upgrade because having 3 tons of horseflesh pulling us around was obviously "good enough" up to that point?

Try more thinking, and less ePeen waving, Mr "I went to college." :laugh:
 
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Originally posted by: Phlargo
Originally posted by: joedrake
Because month and year are the most important, so you can just chop out the middle
AKA:
Today is 4/3/2006
but get rid of that 3 for more general
4/2006
or 4/06

Have you ever played JENGA? You take out the middle peices first... duhhhh.


That's a pretty silly argument
- if you want the month/year combo in the other system, you can find a hundred other equally justifiable reasons why you removing the first part is easier than the middle. It has nothing to do with it. We do it merely out of tradition.

no shiet