Why didn't people tell me how awesome linux was??

[GhettoFob]

Gentoo roxorz my boxorz.

 

[dighn]

it's ok. but it doesn't feel as polished as windows and takes more effort to get things working. gaming support isn't great either.

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

give me a fvckin break, youre just temporaily impressed with whatever different GUI it has compared to what you had. linux is garbage

Fanboy


But I agree, I give it a week before he is back to windows.

 

[upsciLLion]

Home: XP Pro
Work: OS 10.3 and Debian.

I'm working on setting up an FTP server at work on the Debian machine so that I can do file transfer backups to it since networks only gives 30 megs (by default) of backup space to student techs. I'm just going to go around them and set up my own network drive.

 

[Joker81]

You have't experienced linux until you've tried to install debian

 

[SaturnX]

dual-booting gentoo on my main rig, oooh the joys of a stage 1 tarball ... those of you who know gentoo will understand what I'm talking about.

--Mark

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

Originally posted by: Spencer278
Linux general sucks. The fonts are usually ugly software is a pain to install and the chance of having all the dependeces is about 10%.

The only cool thing about unix in genral is x11 tunneling. It kicks some much ass being able to log into different computers and have everything basicly work like it should.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/nuckey/fonts.png
http://pics.apartment808.com/users/nuckey/bitvera.png

My fonts > you.

$ emerge cdrdao -pv

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild N ] dev-util/pccts-1.33.33 721 kB
[ebuild N ] app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01_alpha27 -dvdr 1,371 kB
[ebuild N ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.1.8-r1 -debug -gnome 1,499 kB

Total size of downloads: 3,592 kB

oh look, dependencies. amazing.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n

Originally posted by: Spencer278
Linux general sucks. The fonts are usually ugly software is a pain to install and the chance of having all the dependeces is about 10%.

The only cool thing about unix in genral is x11 tunneling. It kicks some much ass being able to log into different computers and have everything basicly work like it should.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/nuckey/fonts.png
http://pics.apartment808.com/users/nuckey/bitvera.png

My fonts > you.

$ emerge cdrdao -pv

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild N ] dev-util/pccts-1.33.33 721 kB
[ebuild N ] app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01_alpha27 -dvdr 1,371 kB
[ebuild N ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.1.8-r1 -debug -gnome 1,499 kB

Total size of downloads: 3,592 kB

oh look, dependencies. amazing.

And how many hours does it take to install gentoo? Sure the dependence checking might work but you still need to have it put in the packing mangement system by someone. Also you can click on one a link in a webpage and install it by click ok and next a few times.

 

[dpm]

Originally posted by: DrNoobie

Originally posted by: fivespeed5 Linux's biggest hole isn't gaming it's the fact that newbie users don't know how to use it. It has a high learning curve but once you know how to fix it/use it/make it for you it's way better than windows. That's why I'm thinking about getting a Mac w/ OS X. It has most of the benfits of Linux, well BSD, in something that actually works 90% of the time.

I've only had Windows crash on me once since Windows 95.

:Q

Unless you went from 95 to NT, which you only used at work, and then to 2000. Then, maybe.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Spencer278

Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n

Originally posted by: Spencer278
Linux general sucks. The fonts are usually ugly software is a pain to install and the chance of having all the dependeces is about 10%.

The only cool thing about unix in genral is x11 tunneling. It kicks some much ass being able to log into different computers and have everything basicly work like it should.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/nuckey/fonts.png
http://pics.apartment808.com/users/nuckey/bitvera.png

My fonts > you.

$ emerge cdrdao -pv

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild N ] dev-util/pccts-1.33.33 721 kB
[ebuild N ] app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01_alpha27 -dvdr 1,371 kB
[ebuild N ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.1.8-r1 -debug -gnome 1,499 kB

Total size of downloads: 3,592 kB

oh look, dependencies. amazing.

And how many hours does it take to install gentoo? Sure the dependence checking might work but you still need to have it put in the packing mangement system by someone. Also you can click on one a link in a webpage and install it by click ok and next a few times.

Gentoo can take 12 hours to install if you build everything from source... or it can be done in about 30 minutes using precompiled stuff.

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

Originally posted by: Spencer278

Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n

Originally posted by: Spencer278
Linux general sucks. The fonts are usually ugly software is a pain to install and the chance of having all the dependeces is about 10%.

The only cool thing about unix in genral is x11 tunneling. It kicks some much ass being able to log into different computers and have everything basicly work like it should.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/nuckey/fonts.png
http://pics.apartment808.com/users/nuckey/bitvera.png

My fonts > you.

$ emerge cdrdao -pv

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild N ] dev-util/pccts-1.33.33 721 kB
[ebuild N ] app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01_alpha27 -dvdr 1,371 kB
[ebuild N ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.1.8-r1 -debug -gnome 1,499 kB

Total size of downloads: 3,592 kB

oh look, dependencies. amazing.

And how many hours does it take to install gentoo? Sure the dependence checking might work but you still need to have it put in the packing mangement system by someone. Also you can click on one a link in a webpage and install it by click ok and next a few times.

from a web page:
1. download.
2. untar
3. ./configure && make && make install

not that hard.

oh, it took me about 30 minutes to set up the install, 8 hours to sleep while it installed, and i was ready to go the next morning.

 

[Falloutboy]

I've only had Windows crash on me once since Windows 95.

I call BS windows is a whole lot stabler than it used to be but unless you don't actually use the computer its puked more than once

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: fivespeed5

Originally posted by: Ameesh

give me a fvckin break, youre just temporaily impressed with whatever different GUI it has compared to what you had. linux is garbage

linux is only garbage if you don't know how to use it properly. I assume you have no fscking clue how to.

Nah, Ameesh used to work for Microsoft. He's been brainwashed into hating the OS

 

[ghostman]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

give me a fvckin break, youre just temporaily impressed with whatever different GUI it has compared to what you had. linux is garbage

Besides the "linux is garbage" statement, I agree that most people are just temporarily impressed with a different GUI. I've known people who raved about linux to me turn around and says it sucks after a week of using it. If you're only into Linux because it looks nice, then you'll be disappointed after you realize you can't do certain Windows things on it. That being said, I was pleasantly surprised that booting off Knoppix Linux allowed me to read an NTFS drive that Windows XP couldn't recognize and recover the data to an open share on another Windows XP machine over the network. So I would say that's a pretty impressive GUI.

Sure the dependence checking might work but you still need to have it put in the packing mangement system by someone. Also you can click on one a link in a webpage and install it by click ok and next a few times.

...in which case, the Windows program had to be put in a package management system. And the nifty thing is, not all of those packages can be uninstalled! I do understand the frustration with linux dependencies though. Debian's apt-get fixes some of those problems, but it's still a pain if you want to install the latest app and only have Debian woody installed. So far, I'm rather impressed with Gentoo's stage 1 installation. I'll have to familiarize myself with it more.

 

[ghostman]

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/nuckey/fonts.png
http://pics.apartment808.com/users/nuckey/bitvera.png

Damn, that's a nice looking system.

 

[PowerMacG5]

I will have to say this, and it's only my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt. I personally think Linux is a wonderful operating system for servers. Now, for desktops, thats another thing. I don't think it is close to competing with the likes of Windows and Mac OS X...yet. Now, if IBM's rumored Linux distribution is as good as it sounds, then things may change. Package Management for Linux in distros like gentoo and debian, portage and apt-get respectively are amazing. I am waiting for Gentoo to release portage-ng for use on my PowerBook running Mac OS X. This brings me to another point. I find Mac OS X to be the perfect combination of Linux's features, with Windows userability. It allows me to get everything done workwise, and still fulfill my inner geek with the BSD subsystem. And to the comment on games relating to Linux and Mac OS X: On Mac OS X, game support is equal nowadays with releases for each OS being the same time, or only weeks off, Linux is coming close to this point as well. For games that aren't ported by the companies themselves you have wine, which works okay, and you have other companies porting. In a few years, who knows, maybe Linux as a desktop OS will be better, but at this time I can't see that happening just yet.

 

[MikeMike]

so what is the easiest linux version to look and mess around with, dual booted with a NTFS XP disk

MIKE

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
so what is the easiest linux version to look and mess around with, dual booted with a NTFS XP disk

MIKE

mandrake is an easy "newbie" distro

 

[Linux23]

you rang?

 

[MikeMike]

well, what is a distro that i can still mess around with, and get the full effect, yet not be running crying to you guys when i format my hd?

MIKE

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
so what is the easiest linux version to look and mess around with, dual booted with a NTFS XP disk

MIKE

The only distro that ever found not real annoying to use was lycoris distro but then they stopped updating it and it started to suck. Only distro I ever used that support divx, xivd and other video formats along with support my TV tuner.

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: Marauder911
I will have to say this, and it's only my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt. I personally think Linux is a wonderful operating system for servers. Now, for desktops, thats another thing. I don't think it is close to competing with the likes of Windows and Mac OS X...yet. Now, if IBM's rumored Linux distribution is as good as it sounds, then things may change. Package Management for Linux in distros like gentoo and debian, portage and apt-get respectively are amazing. I am waiting for Gentoo to release portage-ng for use on my PowerBook running Mac OS X. This brings me to another point. I find Mac OS X to be the perfect combination of Linux's features, with Windows userability. It allows me to get everything done workwise, and still fulfill my inner geek with the BSD subsystem. And to the comment on games relating to Linux and Mac OS X: On Mac OS X, game support is equal nowadays with releases for each OS being the same time, or only weeks off, Linux is coming close to this point as well. For games that aren't ported by the companies themselves you have wine, which works okay, and you have other companies porting. In a few years, who knows, maybe Linux as a desktop OS will be better, but at this time I can't see that happening just yet.

Personally, I think that it will be a cold day in hell before IBM releases for their own Linux distribution for public consumption. They have solid development partnerships with Red Hat, SuSE, and Red Flag, which would go all to hell if IBM started competing against them.

 

[Platypus]

FreeBSD
Debian x 2
Gentoo

 

[xyyz]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

give me a fvckin break, youre just temporaily impressed with whatever different GUI it has compared to what you had. linux is garbage

very right.

isn't there a perpetual linux thread or something for the "i pick linux over women" rants?

 

[Platypus]

if you fail to see linux's value then you're completely blind.