Why didn't people tell me how awesome linux was??

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: dfi
All I can do is hope they make win4lin for windows XP!

It's called VMware.

I find Virtual PC to be much easier to use. Of course, it's a MS product, but oh well.

 

[dfi]

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: dfi
All I can do is hope they make win4lin for windows XP!

It's called VMware.

VMware is an emulation as far as I understand. It's slower than win4lin.

dfi

 

[JoeKing]

BeOS 0wnz j00!!

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: dfi

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: dfi
All I can do is hope they make win4lin for windows XP!

It's called VMware.

VMware is an emulation as far as I understand. It's slower than win4lin.

dfi

I was recently playing with it. I installed three different flavors of linux and two different versions of windows and it wasn't slow at all.

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: dfi
VMware is an emulation as far as I understand. It's slower than win4lin.

No, they're pretty similar. VMware emulates (in a very loose definition of the word emulates) some of the peripheral hardware like sound, video, IDE, and net but the actual CPU instructions are passed directly to the host processor.

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: MAME
just by curiousity, why do you like linux?

I use os x, linux, xp and 2000 very often, but I prefer xp

can someone please answer my question??

1. Free(dom)

2. Ability to choose your window manager - window management on Windows BLOWS.
a. Viewports
b. Window control keybindings (alt + left click to move, alt + right click to resize. Notice my screenshots have no window decorations)
c. My window manager is totally scriptable, it gives me *tons* of freedom to set things up the way I want it.

3. Powerful command line
a. My command line is powerful enough to do everything I could want from anywhere in the world using sshd, with no more than a few kB/sec worth of bandwidth. I don't know how I ever survived without it.

4. It's pretty.

5. Extremely stable (except for the GOD FORSAKEN PIECE OF SH*T ATI DRIVERS!!! *(*&@#^...and a few kahakai bugs here and there, but nothing big)

6. Everything's always in a constant state of improvement. I like watching change, and even helping occasionally.

7. It's a hobby.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: Spencer278
Linux general sucks. The fonts are usually ugly software is a pain to install and the chance of having all the dependeces is about 10%.

The management of installed programs is better than Windows, but the people making distros need to come to some agreement about a system for installing, uninstalling, updating, etc..
(I know there are people trying, but it is too slw if you constantly keep up with the newest versions of software)

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: Spencer278

Originally posted by: ergeorge

Originally posted by: Spencer278

Originally posted by: Sust

Originally posted by: Spencer278
Linux general sucks. The fonts are usually ugly software is a pain to install and the chance of having all the dependeces is about 10%.

The only cool thing about unix in genral is x11 tunneling. It kicks some much ass being able to log into different computers and have everything basicly work like it should.

Doesnt apt-get and synaptic solve the dependency problem for you?
Plus, there are an assload of fonts you can try in linux so I wouldnt give up just yet.

Yeah because that is what I want to do, look thru as assload of fonts to find the 3 that don't look like ass.

haven't used Linux lately eh? I haven't noticed any font problems since I left RedHat 6 years ago.

it is just that everything is done half-assed.

Use better distros? SuSe, Knoppix, Mandrake...even Slackware are fairly easy* to use and have good font choices now (even a year and a half ago most had the fugliest fonts used for some reason).

* - with Slackware, fairly is a key term.

 

[Kadarin]

There are things about Windows that literally bug the crap out of me: For example, when trying to move video files around for which you don't have the codec, the entire world stops while Windows tries to connect to the Microsoft codec site, where it invariably fails to find the appropriate one. Secondly, let's say you select a few files to move to another drive. The Windows Explorer file manager video preview feature creates a sharing violation for the first video you select when you attempt to move the group of files. Whoever coded this aspect of Windows was definitely riding the short bus...

Ever try to kill a hung Windows process and have the OS tell you something like "this process cannot be terminated"?

In my Gentoo linux install, the process of emerging the Totem video player also installed what seems to be every codec known to Man. I can even play partially downloaded .avi files.. In addition, in the Nautilus file manager, totem generates a nice little icon for the file by picking a random frame.

BitTorrent and Overnet will randomly either bluescreen or force a reboot on my Win2K box, but not in Gentoo.

 

[Fiveohhh]

I've just jumped on the linux bandwagon and have been playing with redhat 9, and fedora core 1. Most likely I'll always use windows or mac for my desktop both my servers run linux and I like it way more than 2003, or 2000. One of the big things is its free...but once you get used to the commands, you can do most things fairly easily. Also with apt-get its easy to DL new programs and not worry about depending on another prog, since its gets them all for you. Going to be trying debian on another server at my parents work this week and their apt get repository is about way bigger than fedoras(from what I've been told).

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: dpm

Originally posted by: DrNoobie

Originally posted by: fivespeed5 Linux's biggest hole isn't gaming it's the fact that newbie users don't know how to use it. It has a high learning curve but once you know how to fix it/use it/make it for you it's way better than windows. That's why I'm thinking about getting a Mac w/ OS X. It has most of the benfits of Linux, well BSD, in something that actually works 90% of the time.

I've only had Windows crash on me once since Windows 95.

:Q
Unless you went from 95 to NT, which you only used at work, and then to 2000. Then, maybe.

I had more crashes than that I did go to NT...for my school/game box, even.

 

[MikeMike]

ive got gentoo, just printed out the guide to installing. need to use partition magic and partition my current HD to allow me ample room for linux.

MIKE

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: MAME
just by curiousity, why do you like linux?

I use os x, linux, xp and 2000 very often, but I prefer xp

can someone please answer my question??

Install Windows XP on a PII 400 w/ 128MB RAM and a small HD. Slow as molasses, no?
Well, there's one reason.
Another is you can do anything, ANYTHING, from the command line.
Also better protection for yourself, as you get prompted for the root PW every time you could screw the system up .
It's not up to Windows on the desktop, and won't be for some time, though.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: Pocatello
Linux has one great thing, it's free and the applications included are pretty good. I don't know how long that will last though, I mean programmers have to eat too.

Quite a few programs, like PAN, need to stay free, else they'll probably get to sucking, like Agent (it's kinda scary to remember that at one point, Agent was actually worth buying, compared to the competition). A lot of others could go commercial. With the frameworks free (kernel, development environment, etc.) and real applications costing $$$, it could work out (games, anyone?). The biggest problem with that at the moment is lack of desktop presence.
If it had enough desktop market, current windows applications would be ported (some have been or are now in the process)...hey, they're not free!
As soon as it gets enough desktop use, economics will kick in. "Hey, we can port this to Linux easily enough, and get around 15% more users!"
Remember, the main $$$ is in games and business apps.

Originally posted by: Joker81
You have't experienced linux until you've tried to install debian

(emphassis added)

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: ergeorge

Originally posted by: xyyz
cause it's a collective way to give msft the finger?

honestly, i don't see any other reason it's pushed by an average admin or a power user over say BSD.

linux has become the institution used to vent against msft... that's why it's so popular.

this is IMHO of course.

I started using Linux because WinNT was pissing me off with it's instability. I stay with it because it's simply a better way to use a computer for me. When I have to work on a Windows machine, I feel crippled .... crappy command line, need a gui for everything, no virtual desktops, no native remote desktops, etc.

Were it not for Litestep (and a few other third-party apps), I'd probably not use Win2k for my desktop...I'd probably have it as a second OS for gaming only.
But I have virtual workspaces, a bit more of a command line, and it runs about anything I want. If I couldn't control my media player, get and use the normal command line, and log off, shutdown, calculate, do google searches, and start most applications from my keyboard, I'd go crazy and get rid of Windows.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: Cerb

Originally posted by: Spencer278

Originally posted by: ergeorge

Originally posted by: Spencer278

Originally posted by: Sust

Originally posted by: Spencer278
Linux general sucks. The fonts are usually ugly software is a pain to install and the chance of having all the dependeces is about 10%.

The only cool thing about unix in genral is x11 tunneling. It kicks some much ass being able to log into different computers and have everything basicly work like it should.

Doesnt apt-get and synaptic solve the dependency problem for you?
Plus, there are an assload of fonts you can try in linux so I wouldnt give up just yet.

Yeah because that is what I want to do, look thru as assload of fonts to find the 3 that don't look like ass.

haven't used Linux lately eh? I haven't noticed any font problems since I left RedHat 6 years ago.

it is just that everything is done half-assed.

Use better distros? SuSe, Knoppix, Mandrake...even Slackware are fairly easy* to use and have good font choices now (even a year and a half ago most had the fugliest fonts used for some reason).

* - with Slackware, fairly is a key term.

I haven't tried mandrake lately but last time I installed it the boot loader would not install. Suse I couldn't figure out how to make the refresh rate be something other then 59hz. I haven't tried slackware in a while but when i did try it my network connect didn't come to life so I gave up.

Also lindows killed my network card so that is when I gave up on linux.

 

[Cerb]

Wow. That really is bad luck.