Why did Hersheys Chocolate move to Mexico?

OutHouse

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its a crying shame. a American company with a rich history just packs ups and leaves 1600 FAMILIES high and dry. sad sad sad.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Citrix
its a crying shame. a American company with a rich history just packs ups and leaves 1600 FAMILIES high and dry. sad sad sad.

Probably for the same reasons that we get our wheat from China to put in our dog/cat food. FFS, couldn't possibly put American wheat in food that we feed animals because it as we all know dog food cost tons of money to produce. Fvck Hershey's. I will no longer buy their products.
 

daveshel

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I had to move away from my home town in Pennsylvania 25 years ago because the unions had got all the jobs exported.
 

Slick5150

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: Citrix
its a crying shame. a American company with a rich history just packs ups and leaves 1600 FAMILIES high and dry. sad sad sad.



Could it be the high costs of labor because of the union?


Most likely a combination of payroll expenses and keeping old factories running

Man, it only took 1 reply to jump on the union bandwagon. Nice.

Hershey's profits have continued to rise, but "below expectations". Meaning, rich stockholders want to get richer, so moving to Mexico will do that. It has nothing to do with unions.

 

tw1164

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Originally posted by: Citrix
its a crying shame. a American company with a rich history just packs ups and leaves 1600 FAMILIES high and dry. sad sad sad.

At least they're getting offered early retirement and not just being shoved out the door.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Slick5150
Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: Citrix
its a crying shame. a American company with a rich history just packs ups and leaves 1600 FAMILIES high and dry. sad sad sad.



Could it be the high costs of labor because of the union?


Most likely a combination of payroll expenses and keeping old factories running

Man, it only took 1 reply to jump on the union bandwagon. Nice.

Hershey's profits have continued to rise, but "below expectations". Meaning, rich stockholders want to get richer, so moving to Mexico will do that. It has nothing to do with unions.

That statement is clearly obvious to those of us who don't suckle at the big corp profits teet. I blame unions for many things but not as far as making chocolate goes. His link was pure BS.
 

OutHouse

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the only flag Hershey should fly outside their building is one with a green $ on it.
 

Steeplerot

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Keep up the outsourcing and union busting and we will be eating our worthless dollar bills for candy.
 

RiverDog

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Originally posted by: daveshel
I had to move away from my home town in Pennsylvania 25 years ago because the unions had got all the jobs exported.


I live in PA, pretty much everything sucks. Taxes, government, and now Hershey.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: RiverDog
Originally posted by: daveshel
I had to move away from my home town in Pennsylvania 25 years ago because the unions had got all the jobs exported.


I live in PA, pretty much everything sucks. Taxes, government, and now Hershey.

I went through Pittsburgh last year for the first time since the late 80s, totally unrecognizable.

All strip malls, restaurants/big box stores -no industry in sight anymore.
 

techs

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Yeah, I guess we should have a country like Mexico. Lets just get rid of the unions, job safety, environmental protectins etc and we can keep all the jobs in America.
At 1.00 per hour.
 

dmcowen674

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I say strip the Company of it's American Corporate Charter.

Using Eminent Domain:

Take away the Amusement park from the Company.

Take away the land and buildings the company has remaining.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: techs
Yeah, I guess we should have a country like Mexico. Lets just get rid of the unions, job safety, environmental protectins etc and we can keep all the jobs in America.
At 1.00 per hour.

im scared. if this crap continues the middle class will be destoyed. if that happens who is going to buy all the crap that the companies make? I dont think our governement totally understands how bad it is hurting our country by big companies leaving. in my world any company who moves operations to another country gets a automatic 1000% tariff on their imported goods.
 

daveshel

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: RiverDog
Originally posted by: daveshel
I had to move away from my home town in Pennsylvania 25 years ago because the unions had got all the jobs exported.


I live in PA, pretty much everything sucks. Taxes, government, and now Hershey.

I went through Pittsburgh last year for the first time since the late 80s, totally unrecognizable.

All strip malls, restaurants/big box stores -no industry in sight anymore.

Pittsburgh has rebounded better than the smaller towns. I grew up near Sharon. When I was a kid there were at least 2 dozen steel mills and fabrication plants. Now there are maybe 2 mills.

When I graduated from high school in 1974, if you weren't going to college, your goal was to get a mill job and hold it long enough to get full unemployment benefits when you got laid off. I went to college and worked for $5, while the mills were paying $12. I said at the time that if you were being paid $12 to lean on a broom you were taking bread from 2 other people's mouths.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: techs
Yeah, I guess we should have a country like Mexico. Lets just get rid of the unions, job safety, environmental protectins etc and we can keep all the jobs in America.
At 1.00 per hour.

im scared. if this crap continues the middle class will be destoyed. if that happens who is going to buy all the crap that the companies make?

I dont think our government totally understands how bad it is hurting our country by big companies leaving.

in my world any company who moves operations to another country gets a automatic 1000% tariff on their imported goods.

I've shown time and time again this is all by design by the Republican Government so this should not be a surprise.

The resident Republicans have been and continue to be thrilled with every offshore move and doing away with unions.

I originally said their target was $3.96 hr to compete with China but it is clear the target is 25 cents an hr to match Mexico.
 

steppinthrax

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What the hell do you expect. It's cheaper that is the only reason. You can pay a hispanic worker less then 1/3 that you pay an American and the job gets done more efficient due to the lack of worker rights that we have here in the U.S.. The same worker rights that inhibit work lowers efficientcy and causes every other company to leave the United States. Have you considered that Americans have done this to themselves......
 

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imported_Shivetya

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Originally posted by: Slick5150
Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: Citrix
its a crying shame. a American company with a rich history just packs ups and leaves 1600 FAMILIES high and dry. sad sad sad.



Could it be the high costs of labor because of the union?


Most likely a combination of payroll expenses and keeping old factories running

Man, it only took 1 reply to jump on the union bandwagon. Nice.

Hershey's profits have continued to rise, but "below expectations". Meaning, rich stockholders want to get richer, so moving to Mexico will do that. It has nothing to do with unions.

did you RTFA? Obviously not, its right in it.

 

Moonbeam

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Somebody said on the radio yesterday, imagine telling Jefferson that the 97% of American farmers would dwindle to 3% in two hundred years. He would want to know what the hell the 97% would do to stay alive.

It was suggested that just as then so now. A new and better way of life is coming to those who are losing jobs.

His point was that we are not managing the change with a social network. This problem is only going to get worse and the job will be to manage the change till we have gone through the transformation.

I guess the question is what will the new America do for a living in the future. Will such an optimistic view become real?
 

imported_Shivetya

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: techs
Yeah, I guess we should have a country like Mexico. Lets just get rid of the unions, job safety, environmental protectins etc and we can keep all the jobs in America.
At 1.00 per hour.

im scared. if this crap continues the middle class will be destoyed. if that happens who is going to buy all the crap that the companies make? I dont think our governement totally understands how bad it is hurting our country by big companies leaving. in my world any company who moves operations to another country gets a automatic 1000% tariff on their imported goods.

Companies don't vote.

As such Democrats will continue to villify corporations to justify even more taxes on them further driving them off our shores.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Somebody said on the radio yesterday, imagine telling Jefferson that the 97% of American farmers would dwindle to 3% in two hundred years. He would want to know what the hell the 97% would do to stay alive.

It was suggested that just as then so now. A new and better way of life is coming to those who are losing jobs.

His point was that we are not managing the change with a social network. This problem is only going to get worse and the job will be to manage the change till we have gone through the transformation.

I guess the question is what will the new America do for a living in the future. Will such an optimistic view become real?

Mangement can make labor labor, but labor can't make mangment manage, at least not when they are free to just pack up and move.

For me there will be no more Hershey products in my house.

:music:
Keep movin', movin', movin'
Though they're disapprovin'
Keep them dogies movin'
Rawhide!
Don't try to understand 'em
Just rope, throw, and brand 'em
Soon we'll be living high and wide.
My hearts calculatin'
My true love will be waitin',
Be waitin' at the end of my ride.

Rawhide!
Rawhide!
:music:
 

Slick5150

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: Slick5150
Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: Citrix
its a crying shame. a American company with a rich history just packs ups and leaves 1600 FAMILIES high and dry. sad sad sad.



Could it be the high costs of labor because of the union?


Most likely a combination of payroll expenses and keeping old factories running

Man, it only took 1 reply to jump on the union bandwagon. Nice.

Hershey's profits have continued to rise, but "below expectations". Meaning, rich stockholders want to get richer, so moving to Mexico will do that. It has nothing to do with unions.

did you RTFA? Obviously not, its right in it.

Uh, yeah, I did. Its a lot of BS. Of course the company is going to blame it on "high union costs" but that doesn't mean its true.