Why Dems Are Going Down in November

[Double Trouble]

So the Democrats are going down because they pissed off the radical right?

No, it's because the economy sucks and they managed to piss off both conservatives and independents at the same time.

 

[Zebo]

Most American are stupid. That's why they are broke, in debt, w/o health insurance and whatnot. Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[trenchfoot]

What's absolutely hilarious about this thread is the repubs acting like they had absolutely nothing to do with the situation the country is currently in, and that it's all Pres. Obama's fault, while they completely ignore the fact that the crushing damage their ideology caused over the Bush years will take many more years to correct. And what's their plan to fix what they broke?.....Just more of the same crap that got us into this fine mess to begin with.

Where's the "new" plan? What's in the "new" plan? The old plan certainly didn't work. Look at the damage the old plan created. We're still suffering because of it....well, MOST of us are still suffering, and the ones that aren't are the ones that emptied out the treasury and stuffed their pockets with our tax $$$ AND drove us deeply into debt.

Once the repubs take over again, and historically, they will, their ideology will compel them to get right back to where they left off before they got kicked off the hill. That's all I've been hearing from them over the time they've been out of power. Well, that and NO NO NO NO NO, even to legislation that they themselves have sponsored/co-sponsored.

Maybe we really need to have them back in power to remind us all just what they really stand for. Maybe even the dumbest stupidest ones that blindly support their ideology will finally get the message that they're all being sucked dry and scammed for one reason and one reason only: to make the rich richer at the expense of everyone else, which is exactly what happened during the Bush years.

 

[ericlp]

Let's just pray that our new Republican overlords learned the lessons taught to them by Newt and Bush.

Act like a conservative and rule like one and things go good, start acting like a progressive Democrat (aka compassionate conservative) and things go to hell.

Also, balance the damn budget and keep it balanced.

Sorry god isn't going to help you...

Why don't you just wake up and figure out the two party system is complete "FAIL!"

Until then you can pray all you want but it's not gonna change anything. I'll send you a rabbits foot for good luck, you'll have just as good as chance.

 

[Zebo]

Most American are stupid. That's why they are broke, in debt, w/o health insurance and whatnot. Stupid is as stupid does.

And that's with highest GDP per capita in the world.

 

[OrByte]

Most voters are NOT single issue voters?!

waaachutalkinbout Willis!?!

 

[OrByte]

Craig, you, and your attitude, is EXACTLY why the Dems are going to lose control of both houses.

The "we know better than you" "you're too ignorant" elitism doesn't sit well with people. Top that off with "if I/we fail, it's THEIR fault" passing of the buck and you've doomed yourself.

One day, hopefully the left will realize that your brand of elitist authoritarianism does NOT work and will return to real liberalism.

Craig, the people aren't ignorant. You are. And your first ignorant mistake is calling the masses ignorant, insulting them, and trying to impose your will on them "for their own good."

oh yeah, like republicans don't whistle the same "elitist" tune.

"We THE People"

Its the "Grassroots, Mid-Westerns" that are "REAL AMERICANS"

If leftist are condescending its because "We THE PEOPLE" earned it. Plain and simple.

 

[Craig234]

He's right about one thing - the house gets cleaned in November. Have a nice day!

You don't clean the house by dumping more dirt in it. The only clean thing in the House are the progressives.

 

[Craig234]

The Dems painted themselves into a corner by hitching their future to Obama and his vision.

Not like the American people who would never elect Obama. Who ever heard of a party tying itself to the President from their party? Crazy!

When he did not fully explain his vision, nor was able to lead;

Idiotology.

he passed the batton to Congress.

Typical tight-wing cult mentality. Turning constitutional law professor Obama's preference to respect Congress into this sort of six year old idiot slam attack.

Obama was wrong to do it, but not for the reasons cult members like CC say.

The lack of leadership from Obama

Say it enough times, the big lie technique.

along with the pork attitude and elite attitude of "we know better for you" of Congress has backfired.

Here's a cracker, for your doing nothing but parroting right-wing propaganda.

Now can the Dems dig themselves out of their hole. While Obama may have been able to accomplish somethings; what the American voter expected and what is being seen are miles apart.
Blaming the Republicans for his inability to close the gap smacks of desperation on his part. Voters can smell fear and insecurity. Perception matters more than actual accomplishments.

Which is a good reason why massive funding from rich interests for propaganda campaigns is to poisonous to democracy. It kills it with lies.

Obama promised change and to the voters, "the moon". The Dems stood right besided him. Now voters are seeing that the emperor has no clothes and his buddies are stealing from the public.

Which would be a fair discussion if your post wasn't predictably completely absent of a word about the alternative, the disastrous Republicans who are far worse.

That does matter in an election.

The election isn't between Democrats and Republicans, it's between voters either voting 'are they happy with how things are going and blindly voting in Republicans', or are they going to notice that they are picking Democrats or Republicans and voting Republicans is disastrous.

That's why Republicans almost only talk about Democrats, and why Democrats are referring to a choice between the parties.

Exactly what you'd expect from an election with terribly low approval for Democrats (make the election about them!) and worse for Republicans (make it about choice!)

 

[hellotyler]

Dems are going down because they are divided and broken. Obama lived up to zero of the promises he made and people are disillusioned and tired of BS. Republicans may win spots solely because they have candidates to stand behind and a purpose. It's just sad to see how badly the dems screwed things up... and everybody says just KEEP ON VOTING FOR THEM... yeah right... if we ever want to see any changes we have to vote out the corrupt dems, even if it means another 4 years of republican rule...

 

[qliveur]

If we ever want to see any real and meaningful change, we need to get rid of both parties. The first step would be ignoring the shills...

 

[Craig234]

Dems are going down because they are divided and broken. Obama lived up to zero of the promises he made and people are disillusioned and tired of BS. Republicans may win spots solely because they have candidates to stand behind and a purpose. It's just sad to see how badly the dems screwed things up... and everybody says just KEEP ON VOTING FOR THEM... yeah right... if we ever want to see any changes we have to vote out the corrupt dems, even if it means another 4 years of republican rule...

Another person, with good intentions, clueless about how much the Republicans are to blame for their abuse of the veto.

'Let's block hundreds of the Democrats' bills by abusing the veto at new records of how it's ever been used, right after the Democrats get a mandate, after Republicans screwed the nation up for years - only problem is, won't the voters understand the Republicans are blocking reform, and blame the Republicans?' 'No, they'll blame the Democrats.'

 

[umbrella39]

oh yeah, like republicans don't whistle the same "elitist" tune.

"We THE People"

Its the "Grassroots, Mid-Westerns" that are "REAL AMERICANS"

If leftist are condescending its because "We THE PEOPLE" earned it. Plain and simple.

LOL. We The People can go fuck themselves. This country deserves to have these American hating bastards back in power so they can shove us even deeper down the shithole than they did up until 2 years ago. Oh how quickly we forget. Get those sock puppets fired up... you have lots of sunshine yet to spread before November.

 

[dawp]

When the fuck are you people gonna get it through your heads that neither party has the best interest of the country at heart. All they carry about are who give them the most cash. That is why nothing really changes when the party in power shifts.

 

[First]

It's going to be funny seeing the Repubs fail in the November all the way until the 2012 election when Obama gets his 2nd term.

 

[trenchfoot]

I'm still waiting to hear of the "new" plan from the righties and teabuggers.

Oh, wait....now don't tell me the new plan was that "new" contract with America that bonehead rolled out a few days ago? Nah, that can't be it.

Well to that I must quote a very distinguished and articulate ex-President - "Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." - G. Bush

I'm just wondering how the select few that own the repub party is going to gouge us, tell us they're doing it to keep America safe and get away with it.....again.

 

[Craig234]

When the fuck are you people gonna get it through your heads that neither party has the best interest of the country at heart. All they carry about are who give them the most cash. That is why nothing really changes when the party in power shifts.

Except you're wrong. Cynicism is easy, and there's a nugget of truth in what you say, but you're wrong as well.

It's more about the flaws in the system - by design - that let wealth have more say than they're supposed to in a democracy that's the problem.

If there were a $10,000 bounty put on cats tomorrow, you would suddenly see many ordinary people 'not care' about cats. Same people, different system.

 

[ScipioAfricanus]

Personally Assassination Politics seems like a more.... robust... way to clean up our government... than voting in or out anyone... but im a romantic...lol

 

[hellotyler]

It's as simple as this, Dems did not earn my vote this year. Republicans never have, and likely never will, so it looks like I am down to 'throwing my vote away' on people who I feel would actually do the job in an honest manner. I'm not clueless about the veto. The fact of the matter is that 'moderate' or 'conservative' democrats have hurt the party more then republicans ever could, because they are not on board and are getting hefty brib- ahem - donations from lobbyists.

 

[trenchfoot]

Hey, I know...Let's all compromise and blame the Blue Dog DINO's for every failure the Dems experienced. Aw what the heck, let's throw Lieberman in there with'um and call it a wash.

The Dems can blame the Blue Dogs and Lieberman for creating disunity in the ranks and for not having the public option included in the health care bill, and the repubs can claim they have more votes in the Senate than how it actually looks on paper. There's not a better bunch of whipping boys to be found in their ranks, and who better to blame than these donkeys that have these huge flattened ears and those long ill-fitting proboscis.

Wouldn't it be funny if after the elections the Blue Dogs were the only "Dems" left standing on that side of the aisle.

 

[GaiaHunter]

When the fuck are you people gonna get it through your heads that neither party has the best interest of the country at heart. All they carry about are who give them the most cash. That is why nothing really changes when the party in power shifts.

Because people need to use a shirt saying what they are and what they believe because they can't think by themselves otherwise.

Sincerely, regarding economics, Bush and Obama are the same:

Print more money and get a bigger government to run a huge deficit.

Their motivations might be different but the result is similar.

 

[boomerang]

When the fuck are you people gonna get it through your heads that neither party has the best interest of the country at heart. All they carry about are who give them the most cash. That is why nothing really changes when the party in power shifts.

Plenty of us "get it". What has to be done right now is reverse the course because we're about to jump off the cliff into a bottomless chasm. Reverse the course to buy time because there is a considerable run in the other direction before we reach the chasm on the other side. It's the only choice right now. And yes, I do understand it's not literally the other direction.

As much as I wish electing third party candidates were a viable option right now, it's not at this time. Being a believer in the adage that one bad apple spoils the bunch, without a total turnover of the power structure in Washington, I don't see a third party as "the answer" anyway.

The only way to change Washington and Congress is to make these people fear the electorate. Remind them that we elected them to represent us, not to dictate to us. Personally, I don't think just telling them this, voting them out, etc., is ever going to have the desired effect. It's going to come down to taking the country back by force.

 

[theeedude]

More bitter disappointment ahead for the rightwingers.

 

[khon]

The real reasons democrats are going down in November:

#1. The economy
If you're the party in charge during a bad economy, you're going to lose elections.

#2. Midterms
The Party in charge almost always losses in the next midterm elections

#3. Lost the PR war
Democrats have done a terrible job explaining their bills, while Republicans have done a great job attacking them.

#4. Abandoned their base
The democratic base is completely disheartened by the failure of their leaders to fight for the things they want. As a result there is a very large enthusiam gap between democrats and republicans.

#5. The Tea Party
The republicans have done a great job of re-branding themselves as tea party conservatives, which allows them to continue the same policies, while claiming to have nothing in common with the failures of the past.

 

[dawp]

Plenty of us "get it". What has to be done right now is reverse the course because we're about to jump off the cliff into a bottomless chasm. Reverse the course to buy time because there is a considerable run in the other direction before we reach the chasm on the other side. It's the only choice right now. And yes, I do understand it's not literally the other direction.

As much as I wish electing third party candidates were a viable option right now, it's not at this time. Being a believer in the adage that one bad apple spoils the bunch, without a total turnover of the power structure in Washington, I don't see a third party as "the answer" anyway.

The only way to change Washington and Congress is to make these people fear the electorate. Remind them that we elected them to represent us, not to dictate to us. Personally, I don't think just telling them this, voting them out, etc., is ever going to have the desired effect. It's going to come down to taking the country back by force.

Thing is it's always republicans this and democrats that and when it comes down to brass tacks, there really isn't much difference except for the minor stuff. As long as the party machinery is in place, the newly elected from either party will continue on with the same old thing. And the general population just doesn't give a damn about, hence the low voter turnout. I'm afraid nothing gonna change unless DC gets nuked. Even then I doubt it.