Why can't we get cool cars like the Europeans? :(

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frizzlefry

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Well I recently got back from Asia and thought the same thing. But i think I now know why. Cars in Asia, there's too much variety. IF you have too much variety, you create too much competition and therefore companies can't make as much money. Cars in Asia cost doubvle what they cost here (my jaw dropped when I saw a new S600 V12 :Q) .

anyways, I think it is intentional what the US car makers do. For instance Ford has tons more cars in their lineup worldwide but only sell selectively here. Ok, so maybe you don't like american. Toyota, Honda, do the same. Toyota corolla comes in 2 sizes in asia. Honda CRV comes in 3 sizes as well. I would love to have those cool cars. I would love to drive an Opel here. Oh well. Maybe when I make enough I'll buy it in Taiwan for double what it should cost and have it shipped here for a few grand :D
 

Theslowone

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Alot of the cars sold in europe are still partially owned by an american company.
Ford owns part or all of: jaguar, mazda, aston martin and land rovers. You have to admit the aston martin vanquish is an awsome looking and powerful car.

While General Motors produces saab, holden, opel, and vauxhall, and owns parts of izuzu, subaru, suzuki, fiat.

So just because all are not sold here, americans still make cool looking, great running cars.

 

LAUST

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<< I WANT A MINI!!! im sick of all these huge ass american SUV's clogging up the road and gas prices...

if the US really wants to lower gas prices.. i'd say make a law that only cars that have outstanding gas mileage can be sold here..

driving small cars is much easyer than big tank like SUV's.. at least that's my opinion


oh yeah and how many SUV's do you see on the road with more than 1 person driving? everywhere i go i see suburbans with no more than 2 people in htem even though they can carrie like 7+ people
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Amen to the SUV mellowing... but as far as milage and prices.. it's a SCAM!! We can make Ethanol for Cheap and easy too and they know it... Petro company's are just milkin us off gas.. Sad thing is the US is VERY cheap on gas compared to most countries... Take a look at what the UK pays for gas and you will know why they have Mini's... We need more E85!
 

WillyF1uhm1

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<< *points and laughs*
Maybe most Europeans know what quality is? :)
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<< Yeah like the Fiat.
Silly Europeans :)
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<< Or old Skoda's and Lada's, good lord :D >>



Ever seen the new Skoda's? e.g. Skoda Octavia. First time I saw one, I mistook it for a Bentley (that's a UK Luxury Marque, the cheapest models beginning at approx. $ 200,000.- here in Holland).
 

WillyF1uhm1

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And that stuff of gas prices:

1 liter gasoline costs approx ? 2.35 (dutch guilders) approx $ 0.94
1 gallon is approx. 3.78 liters.
So, we're paying $ 3.55 per gallon for gasoline. And one fillup is between 8 to 10 gallons.

edit btw what is the price in the US for gasoline?
 

NFS4

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<< peugeot is one of the worst marques in terms of quality. them and renault. and fiat. all suck. every one of any of those company's cars that i've ever been in has been an utter POS. most of them couldn't pass crash tests in the US so they left the market in the 80s. >>


Ummm, doesn't Fiat own Ferrari?? :Q
 

iamwiz82

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i paid 1.71 yesterday, prices jumped down to 1.52 when i drove past them same gas station today. I hate holidays for that reason.
 

ElFenix

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<< Ummm, doesn't Fiat own Ferrari?? >>

yes fiat owns ferrari but ferrari is very very autonomous. so its not a fiat. theres very little, if any, crossover between the two.




<< I would love to drive an Opel here. >>

caddy catera is an opel.
 

oLLie

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A thread about superior Euro cars and not a single post abtou AUDI's yet???

Ollie
 

Mallow

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Are they really cool or are we just conditioned to think things we can't have are cool? I bet Ethiopians think, "Why can't we have awesome Dodge Neon's like the Americans!!!" hehe This is partially tongue in cheek and partially totally serious.

Actually, I admit it. Europe does have way cooler cars but I will never be able to afford any of them. So I personally am not fretting about it. Only you billionaires or people who think it's a good idea to have a more expensive car than your house really need to worry about this topic :p And if your that rich then you can just have it sent to the Americas on your titanic replica or something. :)

I'm not trying to crap, just wanted to razzel someone up.
 

j0lly

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You have to understand that cars are more than just a means for transportation for people in Europe. This is true especially in Germany. Many people I talk to told me that their car is probably thier most priced possession. With this in mind, car companies invest more time and money into R&D of their products. The Autobhan also play a big role in cars being designed with performance in mind. Americans on the other hand have somewhat migrated from wanting the biggest car with the lowest mileage to something that is practical and easy to drive. Europe however, will always have the upperhand simply because people place cars on a higher pedestal.
 

j0lly

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<< I personally like these! >>



Yes. The SMART cars are very popular in Germany because parking comes at a premium. They can be parked in any orientation in half the space required to park a full size sedan. They have a safety cage design and can perform moderately well on the Autobhan.
 

Rarr

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Because some Americans need to supplement their egos with oversized and useless vehicles such as the (cough) Excursion.... Have you ever noticed that a lot of people who have SUV merely have them b/c they think that they look cooler than mini-vans? Hmm...
 

MikeO

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<<

<< *points and laughs*
Maybe most Europeans know what quality is? :)
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<< Yeah like the Fiat.
Silly Europeans :)
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<< Or old Skoda's and Lada's, good lord :D >>



Ever seen the new Skoda's? e.g. Skoda Octavia. First time I saw one, I mistook it for a Bentley (that's a UK Luxury Marque, the cheapest models beginning at approx. $ 200,000.- here in Holland).
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Yep, Skoda has really got it's sh1t together. That's why I said old Skoda's.
 

prontospyder

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<<Europe even gets a Civic Type R which looks totally different than any Civic we get over here>>

If you're talking about the Civic Type R hatchback, it'll make it's debut in North America in 2002. :)
 

j0lly

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<< as long as our teeth and foods are better, its all gooood >>



LOL. You only speak the truth :D