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Why can't they make a decent BluRay dvd player?

techs

techs

Lifer
I am looking for a BluRay player and I can't believe all the problems they have.
Seems most of them take a ridiculously long time to load a disk. Or they can't play many disks. Or they have trouble sending out sound from various outputs. Or they need firmware updates which seem to screw them up even more.

BluRay has been out coming up on 3.5 years. Hasn't that been long enough to fix the bugs?

Is they slow loading time ever going to be fixed? Is it the speed of the processors in the player, the speed of the laser reading the disk?

Basically, wtf is up with BluRay players all seeming to have some problems?
 
Blu-ray machines are computers. Computer don't boot fast (at least not as fast as a stand-alone DVD player), computers require updates, computers require TLC. Blu-ray machines are computers.

You may have better luck if you look at machines north of the $800 mark.
 
Originally posted by: sivart
Blu-ray machines are computers. Computer don't boot fast (at least not as fast as a stand-alone DVD player), computers require updates, computers require TLC. Blu-ray machines are computers.

You may have better luck if you look at machines north of the $800 mark.
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Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: sswingle
I have had 0 issues with my PS3 as a Blu-Ray player.
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And who the hell cares about slow loading time? A movie is 2 hours long and you are going to worry about it taking 30 seconds to load up in the beginning?
 
Originally posted by: sivart
Blu-ray machines are computers. Computer don't boot fast (at least not as fast as a stand-alone DVD player), computers require updates, computers require TLC. Blu-ray machines are computers.
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My PC is a more reliable performer than that.
 
Originally posted by: sswingle
I have had 0 issues with my PS3 as a Blu-Ray player.
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The PS3 does have the fastest BD loading times for its price point. Plus it can play movies and music off it's own internal hard drive or from a media server.
 
Why should a 200 dollar blu-ray player take two to three times to load a disc as my computer takes to boot up Vista?
 
Originally posted by: techs
Why should a 200 dollar blu-ray player take two to three times to load a disc as my computer takes to boot up Vista?
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Because that's the way it is. Do you want a good performing BD player or what? If so, then you're going to have to pay for it. And $200 ain't going to cut it with your requirements. Why? Because Blu-ray is still a new tech. If you don't want to pay $500, get a PS3 Slim. It's a very fast BD player with great Blu-ray quality output and also has built in wifi which is great for BD Live (although BD Live sucks). However the Oppo does better with DVD upconversion. No built in wifi on the Oppo though.


 
Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: JackBurton
You're looking for this BD player. Buy and enjoy.
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Or the $170-190 JVC XV-BP1.
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It definitely meets his new under $200 fast BD player requirement. But one of his original requirements was problem free playback. IMO, the PS3 is ranked #1, followed by Oppo since they release firmware updates regularly to squash any disc issues pretty quickly. The JVC is also kind of cheesy looking, but that definitely wasn't one of his requirements. 😉

But the JVC may be a good fit for the OP.
 
Originally posted by: techs
Why should a 200 dollar blu-ray player take two to three times to load a disc as my computer takes to boot up Vista?
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I'd like to see your $300 computer (and I mean, TOTAL, not just what you had to buy) boot up Windows 7, start the BR-D software, and play the BR-D as fast and well as some of the newer BR-D players. That is to say, I don't think it could... at all.
 
Originally posted by: JackBurton
But one of his original requirements was problem free playback. IMO, the PS3 is ranked #1, followed by Oppo since they release firmware updates regularly to squash any disc issues pretty quickly.
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That's one of my favorite things about the PS3 as a BD player. Updates are released regularly, and it's kept up with the new BD standards very, very well. I game as well, so the PS3 was an absolute no brainer for me.

Since it's been all positives about the PS3 so far, I'll throw in the only two negatives I've experienced. It doesn't have dedicated analog outputs for each channel. Some BD players have this, and it would give me lossless sound on my non-HDMI receiver. The other negative is the lack of an IR receiver. You have to spend about $60 on a device to fully control the PS3 with a universal IR remote. You can buy a $10-15 USB IR receiver, but its controls are limited.

Even with those negatives, if I were in the market today for a BD player, then I would definitely go with the PS3. It would be a harder choice if I were not planning to play any games on it or if I already owned an XBOX360.
 
The other negative is the lack of an IR receiver. You have to spend about $60 on a device to fully control the PS3 with a universal IR remote.
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PS3 Slim supports CEC, so as long as your TV or Tuner has support you should be able to 'borrow' their IR.
 
Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
The other negative is the lack of an IR receiver. You have to spend about $60 on a device to fully control the PS3 with a universal IR remote.
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PS3 Slim supports CEC, so as long as your TV or Tuner has support you should be able to 'borrow' their IR.
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That's interesting. I'm guessing that it would give the same limited capabilities as the Nyko Bluwave IR receiver that I used to use, but for free that wouldn't be too bad. The $60+ devices are IR-to-bluetooth converters, and they use the guts of the actual PS3 remote within the device.
 
Originally posted by: kalrith
That's interesting. I'm guessing that it would give the same limited capabilities as the Nyko Bluwave IR receiver that I used to use, but for free that wouldn't be too bad. The $60+ devices are IR-to-bluetooth converters, and they use the guts of the actual PS3 remote within the device.
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Actually, no, it would give you power-on and power-off support. You would no longer need the Logitech solution, just the Nyko. And not all of the IR-to-BT converters use a PS3 remote inside of them...
 
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