Why can't people think for themselves?

[sumyungai]

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: sumyungai

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: sumyungai

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: sumyungai
Why must people say they belong to a political party whether Republican or Democrat, Liberal or Convservative and follow everything that party stands for? By affiliating yourselves, you've simply admit to people that you have no thought of your own. Instead, why don't people decide whether something is right or wrong based on their own judgement?

When you see Democrats bashing the President on TV, it's their job as a politician to do so. They need to make the opposing party look as bad as possible in order to receive more votes when its time to go to the polls. People need to see pass this and make their own decisions based on their own logic whether the President is doing right or wrong instead of bashing him for everything under the sun simply because he belongs to the opposing party. Is Bill Clinton that much better?

Edit. spelling 🙂

That is why I am independent... Only the weak would choose a political party...

News flash... being an Independent is being in a political party, genius. Not only that but your strong Independents have won how many national elections? So the weak won EVERY national election eh? Whatever, your line of thinking is seriously flawed.

I'm sure you know he meant independent as in independent thinking. Why must you pick a fight with someone or are you really that dumb?

Really, that's what he meant? So then he is esentially saying there are no independent thinkers in a political party? Either way you come of as dumb here. I suggest you relax, pull your head out of my ass and stop trying to help your brother.

Helping out my brother? I'm merely doing whats right. You should try that sometimes.

Good job Mr. Bulletin Board Samaritan. Maybe you'll get the honor badge soon. Only problem is you interjected more idiocy into an already idiotic statement. Didn't need you to give your "add" in.

Out of curiousity why would you ask the question you did? It's called human behavior, and in a sense collective power.

You may have well asked why we feel love. You'll send up with the same conclusion, it's over your head.

This is what happens when I do a run by on dmcowen. Oh well it was worth it.

You sure have lots of posts and a bad attitude. I'm surprised your not banned already.

I asked this question even though I knew the answer already in hoping it would open some people's eyes.

Your comparision on love and morals ( judgement of whats right and wrong) is not the same thing. Is a person loving something the same thing as when a person disagrees with someone for groundless reasons? What they do have in common is that any person who does that uses emotion to make their decisions rather than logic and that makes a person an airhead, no?

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: shadow9d9
That is why I am independent... Only the weak would choose a political party...

News flash... being an Independent is being in a political party, genius. Not only that but your strong Independents have won how many national elections? So the weak won EVERY national election eh? Whatever, your line of thinking is seriously flawed.

News flash, "genius", being an "independent" is NOT being in a political party. The 30-40% of Americans who are registered "independent" are not associated with any specific political party. There may also be an "Independent Party" (witha capital 'I'), but that's something else entirely. As an independent myself, I've won -- and lost -- lots of national elections, since I vote for the person and not the party. Your question is a non sequitur in any case, since popularity has nothing to do with strength. It is easy herd the weak. They seek the comfort and conformity of other sheeple. It is the strong who strike their own path, who don't feel compelled to vote for someone just because he is a popular choice.

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: sumyungai
Why must people say they belong to a political party whether Republican or Democrat, Liberal or Convservative and follow everything that party stands for? By affiliating yourselves, you've simply admit to people that you have no thought of your own. Instead, why don't people decide whether something is right or wrong based on their own judgement?

When you see Democrats bashing the President on TV, it's their job as a politician to do so. They need to make the opposing party look as bad as possible in order to receive more votes when its time to go to the polls. People need to see pass this and make their own decisions based on their own logic whether the President is doing right or wrong instead of bashing him for everything under the sun simply because he belongs to the opposing party. Is Bill Clinton that much better?

Edit. spelling 🙂

I agree with that.... party maniacs are a bane of democracy

 

[dnuggett]

Originally posted by: sumyungai

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: sumyungai

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: sumyungai

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: sumyungai
Why must people say they belong to a political party whether Republican or Democrat, Liberal or Convservative and follow everything that party stands for? By affiliating yourselves, you've simply admit to people that you have no thought of your own. Instead, why don't people decide whether something is right or wrong based on their own judgement?

When you see Democrats bashing the President on TV, it's their job as a politician to do so. They need to make the opposing party look as bad as possible in order to receive more votes when its time to go to the polls. People need to see pass this and make their own decisions based on their own logic whether the President is doing right or wrong instead of bashing him for everything under the sun simply because he belongs to the opposing party. Is Bill Clinton that much better?

Edit. spelling 🙂

That is why I am independent... Only the weak would choose a political party...

News flash... being an Independent is being in a political party, genius. Not only that but your strong Independents have won how many national elections? So the weak won EVERY national election eh? Whatever, your line of thinking is seriously flawed.

I'm sure you know he meant independent as in independent thinking. Why must you pick a fight with someone or are you really that dumb?

Really, that's what he meant? So then he is esentially saying there are no independent thinkers in a political party? Either way you come of as dumb here. I suggest you relax, pull your head out of my ass and stop trying to help your brother.

Helping out my brother? I'm merely doing whats right. You should try that sometimes.

Good job Mr. Bulletin Board Samaritan. Maybe you'll get the honor badge soon. Only problem is you interjected more idiocy into an already idiotic statement. Didn't need you to give your "add" in.

Out of curiousity why would you ask the question you did? It's called human behavior, and in a sense collective power.

You may have well asked why we feel love. You'll send up with the same conclusion, it's over your head.

This is what happens when I do a run by on dmcowen. Oh well it was worth it.

You sure have lots of posts and a bad attitude. I'm surprised your not banned already.

I asked this question even though I knew the answer already in hoping it would open some people's eyes.

Your comparision on love and morals ( judgement of whats right and wrong) is not the same thing. Is a person loving something the same thing as when a person disagrees with someone for groundless reasons? What they do have in common is that any person who does that uses emotion to make their decisions rather than logic and that makes a person an airhead, no?

Good luck guy, I gotta go. I really don't want to conversate with you anymore. I don't want to spend time explaining things and have you trying to draw conclusions on love again. "You may as well have" is an expression, it means something. Ask somebody who has been around a bit longer than you, or is hip to English expressions. I don't have an inclination to explain it to you, I'm done here. Thanks and have a great night.

And it's really poor taste to go from Bulletin Board Good Samaritan to censor of attitude and thinking you have a clue on what a bannable offense is. I could show you one... but then again there are others I would have liked to have shown but didn't, and they deserved it more. I can't see wasting a week or so on you. Take care.

 

[dnuggett]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: shadow9d9
That is why I am independent... Only the weak would choose a political party...

News flash... being an Independent is being in a political party, genius. Not only that but your strong Independents have won how many national elections? So the weak won EVERY national election eh? Whatever, your line of thinking is seriously flawed.

News flash, "genius", being an "independent" is NOT being in a political party. The 30-40% of Americans who are registered "independent" are not associated with any specific political party. There may also be an "Independent Party" (witha capital 'I'), but that's something else entirely. As an independent myself, I've won -- and lost -- lots of national elections, since I vote for the person and not the party. Your question is a non sequitur in any case, since popularity has nothing to do with strength. It is easy herd the weak. They seek the comfort and conformity of other sheeple. It is the strong who strike their own path, who don't feel compelled to vote for someone just because he is a popular choice.

Thanks, that's why I went for the captial I when I used the word.... what is it you think you are explaining again? Your "something else entirely" is what I was referring to.. hence the capital I in my post. But thanks for the stats though... :laugh:

And you are right, popularity has nothing to do with strength. That's why the terms strong Republican or Democratic House were coined. To confuse us all into thinking that the party with the least votes and the least representation is the strongest. Good lord.. you guys in P&N are almost as bad as OT. Try not to think so independently that the rest of your ability to make sense goes away.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: shadow9d9
That is why I am independent... Only the weak would choose a political party...

News flash... being an Independent is being in a political party, genius. Not only that but your strong Independents have won how many national elections? So the weak won EVERY national election eh? Whatever, your line of thinking is seriously flawed.

News flash, "genius", being an "independent" is NOT being in a political party. The 30-40% of Americans who are registered "independent" are not associated with any specific political party. There may also be an "Independent Party" (witha capital 'I'), but that's something else entirely. As an independent myself, I've won -- and lost -- lots of national elections, since I vote for the person and not the party. Your question is a non sequitur in any case, since popularity has nothing to do with strength. It is easy herd the weak. They seek the comfort and conformity of other sheeple. It is the strong who strike their own path, who don't feel compelled to vote for someone just because he is a popular choice.

Thanks, that's why I went for the captial I when I used the word.... what is it you think you are explaining again? Your "something else entirely" is what I was referring to.. hence the capital I in my post. But thanks for the stats though... :laugh:

Thanks for confirming what I expected. Shadow9d9 referred to "independent" (lower case), and you were being intentionally dishonest in changing it to "Independent", possibly to duhvert the thread away from something you can't defend, or maybe just because you're a troll wasting bandwidth. Based on the rest of your comments and grauitous personal attacks, I'm betting troll.

And you are right, popularity has nothing to do with strength.

Obviously ...

That's why the terms strong Republican or Democratic House were coined. To confuse us all into thinking that the party with the least votes and the least representation is the strongest. Good lord.. you guys in P&N are almost as bad as OT. Try not to think so independently that the rest of your ability to make sense goes away.

And now you've just spun off into gibberish. I suggest you go back to neffing in OT and leave reasoning to people who've done it before.

 

[dnuggett]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: shadow9d9
That is why I am independent... Only the weak would choose a political party...

News flash... being an Independent is being in a political party, genius. Not only that but your strong Independents have won how many national elections? So the weak won EVERY national election eh? Whatever, your line of thinking is seriously flawed.

News flash, "genius", being an "independent" is NOT being in a political party. The 30-40% of Americans who are registered "independent" are not associated with any specific political party. There may also be an "Independent Party" (witha capital 'I'), but that's something else entirely. As an independent myself, I've won -- and lost -- lots of national elections, since I vote for the person and not the party. Your question is a non sequitur in any case, since popularity has nothing to do with strength. It is easy herd the weak. They seek the comfort and conformity of other sheeple. It is the strong who strike their own path, who don't feel compelled to vote for someone just because he is a popular choice.

Thanks, that's why I went for the captial I when I used the word.... what is it you think you are explaining again? Your "something else entirely" is what I was referring to.. hence the capital I in my post. But thanks for the stats though... :laugh:

Thanks for confirming what I expected. Shadow9d9 referred to "independent" (lower case), and you were being intentionally dishonest in changing it to "Independent", possibly to duhvert the thread away from something you can't defend, or maybe just because you're a troll wasting bandwidth. Based on the rest of your comments and grauitous personal attacks, I'm betting troll.

And you are right, popularity has nothing to do with strength.

Obviously ...

That's why the terms strong Republican or Democratic House were coined. To confuse us all into thinking that the party with the least votes and the least representation is the strongest. Good lord.. you guys in P&N are almost as bad as OT. Try not to think so independently that the rest of your ability to make sense goes away.

And now you've just spun off into gibberish. I suggest you go back to neffing in OT and leave reasoning to people who've done it before.

Way to break up the last quote. Put it back together, turn your sarcasm meter back on, strap on that little propeller topped thinking cap real tight and re-read it. You'll get it someday. I can tell you are a reasoning expert. You somehow think that popularity and winning elections do not equal strength, but the independent vote does.

So the popular vote of the people to elect a party President and a majority same party House/Senate is not strength according to you? Leave the reasoning to you...? You've got to be kidding me. Really, you tools are what keep most people out of P&N. It's quite disgusting around here. I'll gladly leave the logical thinking to you here on these boards. Just leave the real world to others, you can't do much damage here.

Everytime I want to look around P&N (which is very rare, but it happens) I get sucked in by one of you twits. Then I end up regretting the 30 or so minutes I wasted arguing with one of you tools.

No, for real now.... /OUT

 

[Mursilis]

Everyone thinks for themselves; there is no other option. Even choosing to follow another is a conscious decision, and to continue to do so is an act of will.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: dnuggett
Way to break up the last quote. Put it back together, turn your sarcasm meter back on, strap on that little propeller topped thinking cap real tight and re-read it. You'll get it someday. I can tell you are a reasoning expert. You somehow think that popularity and winning elections do not equal strength, but the independent vote does.

Yup, still gibberish. That's why I broke them apart in the first place. You started with an obviously true statement, then trolled off into nonsense.

So the popular vote of the people to elect a party President and a majority same party House/Senate is not strength according to you? Leave the reasoning to you...? You've got to be kidding me.

Sorry sweetie, but we're talking about strong vs. weak individuals, not political parties. Reading is hard, but try to keep up.

Really, you tools are what keep most people out of P&N. It's quite disgusting around here. I'll gladly leave the logical thinking to you here on these boards. Just leave the real world to others, you can't do much damage here. Everytime I want to look around P&N (which is very rare, but it happens) I get sucked in by one of you twits. Then I end up regretting the 30 or so minutes I wasted arguing with one of you tools.

No, for real now.... /OUT

Appreciate that. If dishonesty and personal attacks are all you have to offer, P&N's better off without you. Toodles.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Mursilis
Everyone thinks for themselves; there is no other option. Even choosing to follow another is a conscious decision, and to continue to do so is an act of will.

On the contrary, falling into line behind others is often an unconscious act, and continuing to do so is simple inertia. It is much easier to blindly march along with others than to consider what one is doing.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Mursilis
Everyone thinks for themselves; there is no other option. Even choosing to follow another is a conscious decision, and to continue to do so is an act of will.

On the contrary, falling into line behind others is often an unconscious act, and continuing to do so is simple inertia. It is much easier to blindly march along with others than to consider what one is doing.

Again, that's all a choice. Following may be an easier choice, but it's a choice nonetheless.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Mursilis
Everyone thinks for themselves; there is no other option. Even choosing to follow another is a conscious decision, and to continue to do so is an act of will.

On the contrary, falling into line behind others is often an unconscious act, and continuing to do so is simple inertia. It is much easier to blindly march along with others than to consider what one is doing.

Again, that's all a choice. Following may be an easier choice, but it's a choice nonetheless.

You're changing your claim. Following may be a choice, but it is often an unconscious choice, a default choice rather than the result of thinking about options and making a conscious decision.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Stunt
Partisan thinking is just as bad as nationalism.

How can you talk when you would clearly die for the Republicans and not even in America??? 😕

What?...Why do you think i endorse the Republican party?

Oh come on, you bleed Republican.

How come you're not proud of it if it is so great?

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
I think also people are just too damn lazy to actually research issues and make their own opinions. It's much easier for them to be spoon-fed whatever drivel gets to their ears first.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: sumyungai

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: sumyungai
Why must people say they belong to a political party whether Republican or Democrat, Liberal or Convservative and follow everything that party stands for?

Speak for yourself.

Many here including myself pledge no allegiance to a particular party.

In fact other than those that would die for the Republican party most against the establishment in control do not like not only that establishment but do not like the Democatic party either.

Thats good to hear. We need more independent thinkers in this world.

its not that you are necessarily indepedently thinking. Its more that you dislike the theories that have made America so great and think your pathetic ideas are somehow better in some way.

Arrogance is deadly

The anime is now playing!

 

[LumbergTech]

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: sumyungai

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: sumyungai
Why must people say they belong to a political party whether Republican or Democrat, Liberal or Convservative and follow everything that party stands for?

Speak for yourself.

Many here including myself pledge no allegiance to a particular party.

In fact other than those that would die for the Republican party most against the establishment in control do not like not only that establishment but do not like the Democatic party either.

Thats good to hear. We need more independent thinkers in this world.

its not that you are necessarily indepedently thinking. Its more that you dislike the theories that have made America so great and think your pathetic ideas are somehow better in some way.

Arrogance is deadly

The anime is now playing!

that was completely baseless.....not to mention IMHO the opposite of american value..which is free and original thought

 

[Polish3d]

"Arrogance is deadly"

I like that 🙂

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: sumyungai

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: sumyungai
Why must people say they belong to a political party whether Republican or Democrat, Liberal or Convservative and follow everything that party stands for?

Speak for yourself.

Many here including myself pledge no allegiance to a particular party.

In fact other than those that would die for the Republican party most against the establishment in control do not like not only that establishment but do not like the Democatic party either.

Thats good to hear. We need more independent thinkers in this world.

its not that you are necessarily indepedently thinking. Its more that you dislike the theories that have made America so great and think your pathetic ideas are somehow better in some way.

Arrogance is deadly

The anime is now playing!

that was completely baseless.....not to mention IMHO the opposite of american value..which is free and original thought

Oh yea original and free thought.

What has kept America so strong and successful is our two party system. Of course we have the weakness of not respresenting all of our constituents, but at the same time the two party system makes American government MUCH more decisive.

As much as I dislike some of the Republican policies, I realize that we are not yet ready for a multi party system. We still have some very strange ideologies OUTSIDE of the two parties which are completely out there.

When a legit third party with ideas that will keep our country moving forward and at the same time take us to a new zenith arrives, I will then say that we are ready for a more varied political discussion.

At this time I'm happy disliking Pres. Bush but at the same time respecting his decisions as ideas that are not directly harming any American intentionally. Its just his view of whats better for America.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: Frackal
"Arrogance is deadly"

I like that 🙂

Tx bro 🙂

 

[sumyungai]

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: sumyungai

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: sumyungai
Why must people say they belong to a political party whether Republican or Democrat, Liberal or Convservative and follow everything that party stands for?

Speak for yourself.

Many here including myself pledge no allegiance to a particular party.

In fact other than those that would die for the Republican party most against the establishment in control do not like not only that establishment but do not like the Democatic party either.

Thats good to hear. We need more independent thinkers in this world.

its not that you are necessarily indepedently thinking. Its more that you dislike the theories that have made America so great and think your pathetic ideas are somehow better in some way.

Arrogance is deadly

The anime is now playing!

that was completely baseless.....not to mention IMHO the opposite of american value..which is free and original thought

Oh yea original and free thought.

What has kept America so strong and successful is our two party system. Of course we have the weakness of not respresenting all of our constituents, but at the same time the two party system makes American government MUCH more decisive.

As much as I dislike some of the Republican policies, I realize that we are not yet ready for a multi party system. We still have some very strange ideologies OUTSIDE of the two parties which are completely out there.

When a legit third party with ideas that will keep our country moving forward and at the same time take us to a new zenith arrives, I will then say that we are ready for a more varied political discussion.

At this time I'm happy disliking Pres. Bush but at the same time respecting his decisions as ideas that are not directly harming any American intentionally. Its just his view of whats better for America.

Oh, I get it now. In order to be free, one must conform. 🙂

Let's say for example you are a Democrat and a Republican that is running supports abortion, welfare, strong military, and all that good stuff. And the Democrat runner is John Kerry. Would you simply vote for John Kerry because he's a Democrat like you or the guy who can get the job done?

My point is who cares what he is labeled as. If so, why label yourself? Why not just use your brain and pick who's best and criticize when its warranted instead of party affiliation.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: sumyungai

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: sumyungai

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: sumyungai
Why must people say they belong to a political party whether Republican or Democrat, Liberal or Convservative and follow everything that party stands for?

Speak for yourself.

Many here including myself pledge no allegiance to a particular party.

In fact other than those that would die for the Republican party most against the establishment in control do not like not only that establishment but do not like the Democatic party either.

Thats good to hear. We need more independent thinkers in this world.

its not that you are necessarily indepedently thinking. Its more that you dislike the theories that have made America so great and think your pathetic ideas are somehow better in some way.

Arrogance is deadly

The anime is now playing!

that was completely baseless.....not to mention IMHO the opposite of american value..which is free and original thought

Oh yea original and free thought.

What has kept America so strong and successful is our two party system. Of course we have the weakness of not respresenting all of our constituents, but at the same time the two party system makes American government MUCH more decisive.

As much as I dislike some of the Republican policies, I realize that we are not yet ready for a multi party system. We still have some very strange ideologies OUTSIDE of the two parties which are completely out there.

When a legit third party with ideas that will keep our country moving forward and at the same time take us to a new zenith arrives, I will then say that we are ready for a more varied political discussion.

At this time I'm happy disliking Pres. Bush but at the same time respecting his decisions as ideas that are not directly harming any American intentionally. Its just his view of whats better for America.

Oh, I get it now. In order to be free, one must conform. 🙂

Let's say for example you are a Democrat and a Republican that is running supports abortion, welfare, strong military, and all that good stuff. And the Democrat runner is John Kerry. Would you simply vote for John Kerry because he's a Democrat like you or the guy who can get the job done?

My point is who cares what he is labeled as. If so, why label yourself? Why not just use your brain and pick who's best and criticize when its warranted instead of party affiliation.

Well party affiliation has come about from previous policitical rifts. You aren't going to change that. And if there is Republican candidate that does all of the above, please show him to me.

I've seen many posts like this. The guy trying to say WHY ARE YOU GUYS FIGHTING to seem intelligent. This fight is there for a reason. Its what has defined and made America. The people who yell out WHY ARE YOU GUYS FIGHTING... are typically nobodies.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: shadow9d9
That is why I am independent... Only the weak would choose a political party...

News flash... being an Independent is being in a political party, genius. Not only that but your strong Independents have won how many national elections? So the weak won EVERY national election eh? Whatever, your line of thinking is seriously flawed.

News flash, "genius", being an "independent" is NOT being in a political party. The 30-40% of Americans who are registered "independent" are not associated with any specific political party. There may also be an "Independent Party" (witha capital 'I'), but that's something else entirely. As an independent myself, I've won -- and lost -- lots of national elections, since I vote for the person and not the party. Your question is a non sequitur in any case, since popularity has nothing to do with strength. It is easy herd the weak. They seek the comfort and conformity of other sheeple. It is the strong who strike their own path, who don't feel compelled to vote for someone just because he is a popular choice.

Thanks, that's why I went for the captial I when I used the word.... what is it you think you are explaining again? Your "something else entirely" is what I was referring to.. hence the capital I in my post. But thanks for the stats though... :laugh:

Thanks for confirming what I expected. Shadow9d9 referred to "independent" (lower case), and you were being intentionally dishonest in changing it to "Independent", possibly to duhvert the thread away from something you can't defend, or maybe just because you're a troll wasting bandwidth. Based on the rest of your comments and grauitous personal attacks, I'm betting troll.

And you are right, popularity has nothing to do with strength.

Obviously ...

That's why the terms strong Republican or Democratic House were coined. To confuse us all into thinking that the party with the least votes and the least representation is the strongest. Good lord.. you guys in P&N are almost as bad as OT. Try not to think so independently that the rest of your ability to make sense goes away.

And now you've just spun off into gibberish. I suggest you go back to neffing in OT and leave reasoning to people who've done it before.

Way to break up the last quote. Put it back together, turn your sarcasm meter back on, strap on that little propeller topped thinking cap real tight and re-read it. You'll get it someday. I can tell you are a reasoning expert. You somehow think that popularity and winning elections do not equal strength, but the independent vote does.

So the popular vote of the people to elect a party President and a majority same party House/Senate is not strength according to you? Leave the reasoning to you...? You've got to be kidding me. Really, you tools are what keep most people out of P&N. It's quite disgusting around here. I'll gladly leave the logical thinking to you here on these boards. Just leave the real world to others, you can't do much damage here.

Everytime I want to look around P&N (which is very rare, but it happens) I get sucked in by one of you twits. Then I end up regretting the 30 or so minutes I wasted arguing with one of you tools.

No, for real now.... /OUT

Bowfinger is right. By being independent I do not mean that I vote for someone that will never be elected. It means that I evaluate the 2 major candidates(republicans, democrats at the moment) and I judge them based on their merits, instead of just voting down party lines. I have no reason to allign myself with a party...

 

[KGB]

To the OP I have two questions:

1. When was the last time you voted for a Democratic candidate?

2. How old are you?