OK I thought that I disabled it but it is possible I just changed it from Auto to Normal so I will try with it Disabled and see if that works
Thanks for the suggestions, I really appreciate it
OK I thought that I disabled it but it is possible I just changed it from Auto to Normal so I will try with it Disabled and see if that works
Thanks for the suggestions, I really appreciate it
Capt Caveman
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That is not a PCI-e Frequency lock. PEG Link Mode is different than PCI-e Frequeny lock. By disabling PEG Link mode, the motherboard won't automatically attempt to overclock the video card.
Capt Caveman
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OP - reading your manual, on page 93, it shows Advance->AI Overclocking[manual]->Performance Options->PCIE Frequency(mhz) - this is your PCI-e lock.
Now, if it's already set at 100mhz, you may need to change the frequency to 101 to lock it. Also, note my previous comments about SATA ports being used and manual settings for your hard drives.
Good luck!
Now, if it's already set at 100mhz, you may need to change the frequency to 101 to lock it. Also, note my previous comments about SATA ports being used and manual settings for your hard drives.
Good luck!
GuitarDaddy
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Peg Link is not the PCI-E lock, if the Intel board works the same as the A8N-SLI s939 setting the HTT to 201mhz or higher in bios locks the PCI and PCI-e buses. In my experience the only time the buses aren't locked is if you boot up at stock 200mhz and use a windows utility to overclock in windows.
The s939 version has a setting in bios to lock the PCI-e bus, but it doesn't work. The only thing that appears to lock the buses is setting HTT to 201mhz or higher.
The s939 version has a setting in bios to lock the PCI-e bus, but it doesn't work. The only thing that appears to lock the buses is setting HTT to 201mhz or higher.
Well I was all excited, after changing the PCIE freq. to 101.x it posted and booted into windows just fine, I was going to post a sucess here on the thread but I decided to do some more testing first.
I rebooted and upped the FSB to 972 (3.4Ghz) and the system would not post. I then set the settings back to 915 (3.2Ghz) and upped my memory to the default 667Mhz. Again no post. I then set the memory back to 533 which was what it was set at when I booted windows the first time and it wouldn't boot windows, it would get to where windows usually loads and just hang at a black screen.
So I am back to where I started, nothing seems to work and I have decided that this board is getting sent back, I am a full-time student, Dad, and work 40+ hrs a week so I don't have time to mess with this stuff. I just want my smooth problem free Intel setup back but that has been moved to my HTPC setup.
Anyway it looks like this board is going back to ZZF and now I have two options:
1. Just get another Asus P5WD2 and be happy with the stablility and compatability with everything including my Fatal1ty sc. It runs great at 3.4Ghz and 3.6Ghz which runs everything I need/want
2. Give into the pressue from the forums here and go with an X2 setup, 3800+ or Opteron dual core and OC to an high but 100% stable config. I still have a feeling despite what everyone has said that there are going to be some issues along the way. I can deal with the SC issue as there should be a BIOS update or a firmware update from creative that should fix the issue but I don't really want to deal with any others.
This is what I would get give me your opinions and/or suggestions:
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe (Asus has been good to me, I will read more about this board though, if you have anyother options or fav. let me know)
X2 or Opteron DC (what core and speed would be best, I see Venice, San Deigo, Clawhammer etc.)
2GB DDR RAM (do I want high speed PC4000 stuff or is it a waste to get the higher Mhz stuff over lower LL stuff)
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Opteron 170 is my choice. You can still find them, and with the 10x multiplier, they OC easy, and not too spendy ($356 for my OEM, already have a bunch of good HDF's). Motherboard seems, OK, but I don't know that one myself, and the ram, I like PC4000 so I can OC at 1:1 up to 2500, but PC3200 works fine, as dividers don't kill AMD like they do Intel.
So this is what you think is best, better than an X2 of comparable price ~$400?:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103586
Opteron, Denmark Core, 2MB L2, 1Ghz FSB?
Does this require regestered RAM? I read on a post here somewhere that the opterons requre registered RAM so I was just checking on that.
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No registered ram, that is the socket 940 variety, where this the the 939 version.
Yes thats the one I just bought, but I got the OEM version from monarchcomputer for $356 (if they ever ship it, jerks). As you can see by all the other posts, they are supposed to OC great, so I wanted to find out for myself. I already have 3 X2's, but I want something different to replace my old winnie 3000.
Yes thats the one I just bought, but I got the OEM version from monarchcomputer for $356 (if they ever ship it, jerks). As you can see by all the other posts, they are supposed to OC great, so I wanted to find out for myself. I already have 3 X2's, but I want something different to replace my old winnie 3000.
Maybe along the lines of this?
That is pretty serious power there. The Opteron 170 should be able to reach 2.7 on air, 2.9 on water, and around 3.1-3.2 on vapor.
Okay I am getting the Opteron 170 and the Asus A8N32-SLI if it will even get stocked somewhere but I am confused about which memory to get.
When overclocking intel you usually want max FSB which = higher Memory bus but slower latency.
But from what I have read on the AMD side you don't need a high FSB or something like that and want tighter timings.
Basically I need to know what memory to buy, I need 2 GB of RAM, do I get PC3200 with the lowest latency I can afford or do I want higher MHZ like PC4000 but with slower timings? All the reviews that I have seen use low Mhz low latency stuff so what do you guy recomend to get the best performance when OC'ing my Opteron?
When overclocking intel you usually want max FSB which = higher Memory bus but slower latency.
But from what I have read on the AMD side you don't need a high FSB or something like that and want tighter timings.
Basically I need to know what memory to buy, I need 2 GB of RAM, do I get PC3200 with the lowest latency I can afford or do I want higher MHZ like PC4000 but with slower timings? All the reviews that I have seen use low Mhz low latency stuff so what do you guy recomend to get the best performance when OC'ing my Opteron?
Review
Frames per second in Wolfenstein Radar:
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OCZ PC4000 1024MB EB Platinum (DDR500) - 2x1GB Double-Bank
@DDR400 2-3-2-7 : 120.4FPS
@DDR550 3-3-2-7 : 127.6FPS
Corsair CMX1024-3500LLPRO (DDR433) - 2x1GB Double-Bank
@DDR400 2-3-2-7 : 120.8FPS
@DDR492 2.5-3-2-7 : 125.7FPS
same thing with the Gigaram. Hope that answers your question
Oh, and great choice on the motherboard and CPU. If you a nice RAM kit to complement it here you are.
I just got done reading the AnandTech article about the 1GB Dimms and it looks like the 1GB OCZ PC4000 EB PE is a good choice, I sure wish I could use my PC667 DDR2 RAM that I just purchased last week.
This is just plain wrong, there are some very serious issues out there with even the most expensive AMD boards. (SW IDE drivers anyone?)
Im glad you havent had any issues, but to say Mainstream AMD is as easy to build/configure/maintain stability as an Intel system is a joke.
Intel has 1 thing on AMD, their own chipsets, and it shows its ugly head often if you build systems based on both architectures.
As for you bashing intel in this thread Duvie, if his previous setup was fine, and Nforce 4 for intel introduced multiple problems... how is that intels fault?
Clearly the issues would be Nforce related.
I have a Tyan K8WE using the nForce Pro chipset and it's the most stable platform I've ever worked with in my entire life.
The driver and compatiblity problems ive seen are chipset-wide.
Got an audigy 2 in there? Tried the SW-IDE drivers? CnQ crash anything lately? Try hot plugging an extigy in and seeing windows 2000 instantly BSOD.
Its far from perfect, im glad youve had no issues.
Well, on a $500 motherboard, I'd be pissed if anything like that happened. I don't using any of the boardboard SATA/PATA, constantly rendering so no CnQ, and run WinXP, so I guess there is no reason I'd have encountered those problems. I'm sorry to hear the nVidia desktop users are getting 'F-ed in the A.'
I wish AMD would take a stab at making thier own chipset for once. Maybe they just don't have any talent for that.
I wish AMD would take a stab at making thier own chipset for once. Maybe they just don't have any talent for that.
Im optimistic that hopefully with the new fab they could start making chipsets on the old one.
I really want a better AMD chipset out there.
I really want a better AMD chipset out there.
AMD's 760 chipset was damn good back in the day. As of right now they simply don't have the fab capacity do manufacture chipsets.
And Acanthus, don't act like Intel is blameless with their chipsets. IIRC, they've had some problems in the past...
Most of their problems resulted in recalls to fix the problem. Not "oh that sucks, please buy the new revision".
Well after reading different reviews AMD vs. Intel last night until early this morning and adding up the cost I decided to stick with my Intel setup and just get rid of this NF4 MB.
I couldn't help thinking that going with an Opteron 170 and 2GB of DDR RAM setup was taking one step forward and two steps back.
Step forward would be the obvious performance increase but steps backward:
I read about a lot of potentional issues that I might have, I just don't trust the NF4 chipset to be as good and problem free as my Intel 955chipset. In fact Asus just realeased a bunch of new critical fixes specifically for the board I was looking at (A8N32-SLI).
Then I was looking at cost, $400 for an Opteron 170, and $300+ for some good OZC 2x1GM RAM chips (PC4000). I already have 4x1GB DDR2 chips right now and it appears that AMD will be going to DDR2 in the near future. So I would be spending a bunch of money on yesterdays technology that will be out of date in a few months.
So I just put my old system back together and it is running nice and smooth and problem free at 3.6Ghz right now. I just RAN 3dMark 05 without a hitch and got what looks to be like a respectable number. I may push it to 3.8Ghz as this new Zalman is amazing but I will likely wait for my new 600W quad 12v rail PS which should be her on Thursday.
Well I tried to post a pic of my 3DMark scores and CPU-Z info but am not sure how, so here is the info:
3dMark05 with default settings:
8175 3DMarks
CPU-Z
Core speed: 3604.4 Mhz
FSB 257.5
Bus Speed 1029.8
Anyway guys thanks for all the help and support!
I couldn't help thinking that going with an Opteron 170 and 2GB of DDR RAM setup was taking one step forward and two steps back.
Step forward would be the obvious performance increase but steps backward:
I read about a lot of potentional issues that I might have, I just don't trust the NF4 chipset to be as good and problem free as my Intel 955chipset. In fact Asus just realeased a bunch of new critical fixes specifically for the board I was looking at (A8N32-SLI).
Then I was looking at cost, $400 for an Opteron 170, and $300+ for some good OZC 2x1GM RAM chips (PC4000). I already have 4x1GB DDR2 chips right now and it appears that AMD will be going to DDR2 in the near future. So I would be spending a bunch of money on yesterdays technology that will be out of date in a few months.
So I just put my old system back together and it is running nice and smooth and problem free at 3.6Ghz right now. I just RAN 3dMark 05 without a hitch and got what looks to be like a respectable number. I may push it to 3.8Ghz as this new Zalman is amazing but I will likely wait for my new 600W quad 12v rail PS which should be her on Thursday.
Well I tried to post a pic of my 3DMark scores and CPU-Z info but am not sure how, so here is the info:
3dMark05 with default settings:
8175 3DMarks
CPU-Z
Core speed: 3604.4 Mhz
FSB 257.5
Bus Speed 1029.8
Anyway guys thanks for all the help and support!
Capt Caveman
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OP-Do you mind posting such fixes so future referrence seeker of such board would be able to fix of said problems such as yours?
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