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Why can't Linux distro's have things like a plain old setup file ?

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Originally posted by: smack Down
Yeah yum and those other programs are great but if the app isn't in the repository your screwed. It really is a bad solution why should a user be dependent on the distro to support every application he wants to use. It also requires a lot of rework. There are what 50 distros out there each one has two make there own packages for every application.

Of course all the linux fan boys will pretend it is the best thing sence sliced bread.
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I can't vouch for Linux distros, but I know the various BSD packaging systems use stuff from others. I've seen plenty of porters mention they got something from FreeBSD or pkgsrc.

If something isn't in the repository, make it and get it in there. It's a community effort. Chances are, most applications not in a repository (especially one the size of Debian's 😕 ) aren't worth using in the first place.
 
I have seen some proprietary apps come with the equivalent of a "setup" program in the form of a scripted installation. I've never looked over these scripts to see how they do it (if that was even possible, if it was text or binary), but it worked just like on Windows - copy the files or mount the CD and run the script. It asked a few questions during the install, just like windows, and that was it. It was Trend Micro's gateway products, I believe, and I don't think they had a requirement for which distro it was installed on.
 
Autopackage!!! ewwww.



Originally posted by: smack Down
Yeah yum and those other programs are great but if the app isn't in the repository your screwed. It really is a bad solution why should a user be dependent on the distro to support every application he wants to use. It also requires a lot of rework. There are what 50 distros out there each one has two make there own packages for every application.
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http://labix.org/smart

Smartpm can mix and match packages from different repos for different distros. Debs, rpms, apt-rpm, yum, whatever.

Looks good, claims are dubious, and due to the lack of documentation I can't get it to do anything worth jack crap. Could be made to work.

Of course all the linux fan boys will pretend it is the best thing sence sliced bread.
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Lalalalalalalalalalalala nobody can hear you. lalalalalala....
 
Originally posted by: smack Down
Yeah yum and those other programs are great but if the app isn't in the repository your screwed. It really is a bad solution why should a user be dependent on the distro to support every application he wants to use. It also requires a lot of rework. There are what 50 distros out there each one has two make there own packages for every application.

Of course all the linux fan boys will pretend it is the best thing sence sliced bread.
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I guess that is what compiling from source is for. Sometimes not the easiest thing to do, but it'll get the job done. You can also do yum localinstall rpmpackage, but of course the rpm must support your distro.
 
Originally posted by: smack Down
Looks good, claims are dubious, and due to the lack of documentation I can't get it to do anything worth jack crap. Could be made to work.
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Doesn't that explain about half of linux programs?
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I disagree with that, all of my Linux issues that I had to face had some big assed man pages, but guess what ? Good luck with most of them because they weren't made for just out of the egg Linux user.
 
Originally posted by: smack Down
Looks good, claims are dubious, and due to the lack of documentation I can't get it to do anything worth jack crap. Could be made to work.
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Doesn't that explain about half of linux programs?
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Maybe the smaller ones, but many of the bigger projects have man pages, FAQs, and probably half-assed how-tos out there.
 
Doesn't that explain about half of linux programs?
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Seems to apply to Windows programs more than Linux ones IMO, sure the Windows ones usually come with documentation but it usually only covers the painfully obvious operations.
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Use this steaming pile, or build your own.

Devs should spend more time creating or fixing software instead of bundling it for the couple of people too cheap to get off of AOL. They can't cater to a minority (especially when it's only a couple of retards whispering quietly).
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aol cheap?? there one of the more expensive isp out there. Strangely one of the worse also
 
Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Use this steaming pile, or build your own.

Devs should spend more time creating or fixing software instead of bundling it for the couple of people too cheap to get off of AOL. They can't cater to a minority (especially when it's only a couple of retards whispering quietly).
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aol cheap?? there one of the more expensive isp out there. Strangely one of the worse also
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I don't pay attention to dialup.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Doesn't that explain about half of linux programs?
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Seems to apply to Windows programs more than Linux ones IMO, sure the Windows ones usually come with documentation but it usually only covers the painfully obvious operations.
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Hey with out that fold out how would you have every figured out you needed to click next.
 
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Doesn't that explain about half of linux programs?
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Seems to apply to Windows programs more than Linux ones IMO, sure the Windows ones usually come with documentation but it usually only covers the painfully obvious operations.
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Hey with out that fold out how would you have every figured out you needed to click next.
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Maybe I'm old, but all I think about when someone says "fold out" is a couch. 😕
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Send me good beer.
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I'm a friend's house with a fridge full of Guiness =)
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I'm jealous. I think I'm supposed to enjoy a nice bottle of wine with the woman tonight, so I've got _something_ to look forward to. 😉

It'll be our first German Riesling, I'm looking forward to it.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Send me good beer.
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I'm a friend's house with a fridge full of Guiness =)
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Ah, there is very little in this world that is prettier then the sight of seeing that little fridge light shining thru the all those cold brown bottles stacked to the top of a refrigerator. Glorious.

Unless it's cans, then it's just so-so. 😛
 
Originally posted by: drag
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Send me good beer.
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I'm a friend's house with a fridge full of Guiness =)
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Ah, there is very little in this world that is prettier then the sight of seeing that little fridge light shining thru the all those cold brown bottles stacked to the top of a refrigerator. Glorious.

Unless it's cans, then it's just so-so. 😛
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How about a beautiful bartender handing you a Black & Tan? 😀
 
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