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Why can't I open more than 15 IE windows on my machine?

JEDI

JEDI

Lifer
work machine:

Win98 SE
256megs ram
Intel i810e onboard video-> Running latest driver from Intel website (v6.7)
1024x768x16bit

if i do a google search, i like to open up all the links that interests me, then i scan the documents. sometimes that's >15 IE windows. but more than that my video screws up, like funky colors and nothing appearing in new IE windows.

But supposely the i810e chip does 32megs.

So why can't i open more than 15 IE windows?!

THX!
 
Because Win9X sucks. The entire OS shares a limited set of resources and once one app uses all of them the rest, and possibly that one app, start to look funky and screw up.

IE also has that problem on NT but it's less obviuos because you can usually get around a hundred Windows open before it starts acting up, and it only affects IE since the sources aren't shared on NT.
 
dont listin to nothinman ~ hes got a personal grudge against 9x.
(it used to beat him up as a child)

you need more ram.
im using 1 gig of ram on my win98 box, and i just opened more then 30 instances of IE to test it for you.

there is nothing wrong with win98 🙂

HTH 😀
 
I do have a grudge but that doesn't change the fact that Win9X has a limited pool of globally shared GDI resources.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
I do have a grudge but that doesn't change the fact that Win9X has a limited pool of globally shared GDI resources.
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Your absolutely right.

And there are many things wrong with Win98. From poor memory management to weak (just about none) security....
 
Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
dont listin to nothinman ~ hes got a personal grudge against 9x.
(it used to beat him up as a child)

you need more ram.
im using 1 gig of ram on my win98 box, and i just opened more then 30 instances of IE to test it for you.

there is nothing wrong with win98 🙂

HTH 😀
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i thought it had more to do with the video memory, then the computer memory?!

hm..GDI resources..anyway to compensate for that?
 
Would him using a tabbed browser like Opera work? Won't fix the GDI problem but you may be able to open more tabs in Opera than you can windows with IE. Of course Opera may not use GDI resources as effectively as IE.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
hm..GDI resources..anyway to compensate for that?
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Stop using Win9X, it's a design limitation MS never plans on fixing.
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works fine for me 😀
WinXP has its own problems ~ tis for tat
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even if he goes to XP he will still need more ram.

🙂
 
Stop using IE and start using Opera. If you like mutliple pages up, you will love tabbed browsing.
 
In case no one knows....

Win9x uses a small globally shared system GDI resource pool. This is just like Windows 3.1, Win9x's resource pool is exactlly double the size though.

GDI resources are things like icons, buttons, windows, window metrics (size, shape, color, etc...) text, other controls, etc... In 9x all applications have to store resources in a single and very small pool. When this pool is filled, weird things start to happen. Because apps have no way to store resources you'll start seeing blank windows, weird fonts, missing menus, etc.

There really is nothing you can do to fix this. More memory will not help it any way.

Its time to drop 9x, this is just one of the many limitations you'll find in it....
 
Originally posted by: stevewm
In case no one knows....

Win9x uses a small globally shared system GDI resource pool. This is just like Windows 3.1, Win9x's resource pool is exactlly double the size though.

GDI resources are things like icons, buttons, windows, window metrics (size, shape, color, etc...) text, other controls, etc... In 9x all applications have to store resources in a single and very small pool. When this pool is filled, weird things start to happen. Because apps have no way to store resources you'll start seeing blank windows, weird fonts, missing menus, etc.

There really is nothing you can do to fix this. More memory will not help it any way.

Its time to drop 9x, this is just one of the many limitations you'll find in it....
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for the record,
i have never seen this happen ~ and im harsh on an OS with various multitasking.
i also use large fonts and large icons cause i run a 1280res desktop 😉

 
Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
admittedly ~ i use the 1gb of ram tweak that i helped verify works perfectly 😉
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this is a work machine. can't change OS 🙁

i'm used to opening 30+ IE windows along w/Word + Excel in my home machine. it sucks to be limited to 10-15 and no other apps. i can barely do 9 IE windows if i have Word on my w98 🙁

so upgrading from W98 is the only answer, huh? 🙁
 
Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
i think more ram is the answer on W98.

can anyone even guarentee that XP can open 15+ IE windows on only 256mb ram???
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Don't know, but I have 512MB and just opened up 30 windows and still had 150MB ram free.
 
Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
i think more ram is the answer on W98.

can anyone even guarentee that XP can open 15+ IE windows on only 256mb ram???
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Yup, I just did it on my XP Pro with 256MB. I opened up 62 before it stopped me.

My memory usage with that, MSN Messenger, ICQ... was only 242MB.

256MB of RAM ain't that bad, it's still very usable. Just for surfing, IM, e-mail and Office, it's good enough. But the more the merrier 🙂
 
hmmm, i wonder if maybe his system just has a software problem of some sort then???

JEDI ill assume youve scanned for viruses and ran adaware already?
 
can anyone even guarentee that XP can open 15+ IE windows on only 256mb ram???
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I just opened around 30 all with MSN.com in them on Win2K with 256M memory, I could have done more but decided to stop.

hmmm, i wonder if maybe his system just has a software problem of some sort then???
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Yes it does, the software problem is called Win98.
 
how bout 30, all with different media-intesive web pages on them? If you open up just the homepage then I figure it will be showing the same picture located from the same ram on all of them... But if you open up 30 different pages, with 10-15 images/flash/animated gifs/etc. each, can w2k handle that?
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Yes it does, the software problem is called Win98.
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one track mind 😉

seriously, he might have an issue besides using Win98.
i cant test weather win98 can open that many IE windows on 256mb ram, but i know it can do well more then 30 with 1gig. he also said his home comp can do more then 15 IEs so....

i think his work computer has a software issue. something is taking up its memory.

🙂
 
how bout 30, all with different media-intesive web pages on them? If you open up just the homepage then I figure it will be showing the same picture located from the same ram on all of them... But if you open up 30 different pages, with 10-15 images/flash/animated gifs/etc. each, can w2k handle that?
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That's a lot of work, I don't feel like investing that kind of time.
 
It doesn't matter. I did it.

Running win95 on a pentium 1, with 128 megs of ram.

I did a search for "puppys" on google and openned the first 23 pages in different windows. I also had a IBM terminal emulation program running on it, and a eudora mail client.

It opened fine and I could switch between all the windows just fine.

I checked the resources after I closed all the windows and they were running at 65% exept the GDI thingi and that was at 75% (so you get a idea of the health of that horrible horrible machine.)

So win9x isn't all that bad to stop 15 explorer pages openning, but it frequently crashes on openning just 1 page... so it's not "all that". 😛

I'd try the generic Explorer fixes. Flush history, and internet cache. Reinstall it/or do the recovery/upgrade to latest version. Turn off all the crap that runs in the background that you don't use. Apply MS patches if any. Uninstall, reboot, Reinstall, networking services and TCP/IP. Try opening 15 pages after each fix-attempt step. You don't want to more then you have to, it has a good chance of making things worse. One step at a time.

If that doesn't work. Reinstall. If you can live with it fine, but I don't think it will be worth it to do much more to try to fix it. If those steps don't fix it. It's likely on a downward spiral and just wait another couple months for it to finish itself off.
 
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