Why can't AMD overtake Nvidia?

[7beauties]

With very few exceptions, AMD's GPUs always trail Nvidia's. Of course, some of this is because Nvidia's flagship cards are expensive and AMD is comfortable being the bargain champ. But I've recently discovered that Jen-Hsun Huang, CEO and co-founder of Nvidia, is Lisa Su's uncle, for crying out loud. I wouldn't want to war with my relative, either.

Moved from FS/FT.

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[VirtualLarry]

But I've recently discovered that Jen-Hsun Huang, CEO and co-founder of Nvidia, is Lisa Su's uncle, for crying out loud. I

Is this a troll?

 

[Steltek]

A lot of people seem to forget that AMD is fighting against two monsterously huge competitors (Intel and Nvidia) on two entirely separate product fronts (CPUs and GPUs) with limited resources. Up to now, I'm sure they have poured resources into Ryzen first and foremost because that was the product that was going to make or break the company.

Now that Ryzen (and Intel's mostly unexpected managerial ineptitude) has given them some breathing room, I fully expect they'll try to swing more resources towards the GPU side. However, Nvidia hasn't made Intel's mistakes so it'll be an uphill battle for them.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I’ll give my 10,000 foot overview in a likely troll thread.
For whatever reason AMD focuses on the value segment with good enough performance. Really hard to be the market leader with that mindset.
Now Ryzen has changed that thinking, maybe soon we will see a new AMD regarding graphics and we could see intel enter the field as the value/good enough player but again pure guessing.

 

[VirtualLarry]

We ain't seen "Big Navi" yet, either.

 

[maddie]

What is really so terrible in not having the top performing graphics card? Honest question.

Yeah, I know everyone talks margins, but the volumes are relatively small.
And for the required car analogy, is a Hyundai or any such car considered a failure when compared to a Bugatti? When Zen came, it led mainly in price/performance and began a huge movement continuing today.

The fanboi movement distorts our view. Sure, I like to read about top of the line cards but will never buy one. Waste of money for the results you get and I have other interests sharing my time, the only limited resource.

 

[Kenmitch]

We ain't seen "Big Navi" yet, either.

Well We've seen the alleged BIG Ampere card. Do you think they're related also?

 

[FaaR]

But I've recently discovered that Jen-Hsun Huang, CEO and co-founder of Nvidia, is Lisa Su's uncle, for crying out loud.

This is incorrect, they are NOT related.

Besides, if you think the CEO of one corporation would get away with deliberately holding back just to not step on the ego of another CEO of another corporation... Besides again, if you think Su, who has been fiercely loyal to AMD ever since she first started on as leader of the company, even when every single day was their darkest days, would deliberately gimp their products for the sake of JHH... Well all I can say is you've got another thing coming.

 

[DamZe]

For many PC gamers AMD is the best choice for the money. Sure they don't have some epic Halo product that 1% of PC gamers can afford, but Radeon is alive and well, doing its job (and doing it well) in countless gaming PCs.

And going by what Ampere is rumored to cost, nVidia is going to have to beg people to buy their products in this economy...

 

[exquisitechar]

Such an awkward moment to ask this, check back in a few months.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Such an awkward moment to ask this, check back in a few months.

Try to avoid fan boy territory. Problem is this is always the answer. Always even back in the ATI days.

 

[Shmee]

Alright guys, this is getting closed as it has only the potential to turn into a nasty Nvidia vs AMD thread. Remember to avoid the name general accusation of fanboy as well. Thanks.