Why call this guy a sniper????????

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: edro13

Originally posted by: desy
Edro get you facts straight every report has it less than 150 yards STATIONARY targets.

Ummm.....stationary would be a paper target. A person standing, is not STATIONARY! Even when people stand, they are moving and swaying. Even at 150 yards, I guarentee YOU cannot hit a person and KILL 9 out of 11 of them. He obviously knows what he is doing. You obviously do not.

A person standing and or walking directly towards/away from you is, for practical purposes, stationary. I guess you need to get out with that AR15 more, since just about every shooter I know would call a person standing a stationary target. A moving target is one that is moving SUBSTANTIALLY. Nothing is totally still. An empty pop can on the ground will waver in the wind. Its not a moving target though.

And if you want to talk about personal skill, next time I go deer hunting, you can come along stalking (assuming you arent too loud), and I'll let you scare the deer into moving. A running deer is a moving target. A grazing deer is not, though since their heads moving and their tails twitch, I guess you would call it one.

PS, Your profile says you live in columbus, OH. As do I. The offer is serious.

EDIT: hehe... you said the words "pretty accurate, 200 yards, 6 inch grouping" in the same sentence. lol

 

[desy]

Thanks Moo
My Father in law last year shot a deer Standing so I guess it wasn't 'stationary' at 330 yards GPS'ed , off the hood of the truck with about a 5 second setup with a 42 year old rifle and scope so I guess that puts him in Super marksman territory? bah
We went out Sat and his scope was off 4 Inch to right at 100 yards

Mine was perfect 1 1/2 MOA at 100 which is what MOST manufacturers of rifles guarantee. That is supposed to give you a Max Point Blank Range of about 300 yards with most non magnum caliber rifles, more or less, 3" high at 100 , 0 at 200 and 3 low at 300 gives you a 6" plate so just aim at vitals, considered to be about 8" and shoot. It isn't very hard. Considering I have killed every Deer and Elk and Moose I have ever shot at much more than 11 I'm afraid maybe I do know what I'm talking about? Under 1" MOA is very easy to get with consistent handloads decent optics and a light trigger 2-3lb. My wife could consistently hit in 6" at 100 the very first day she ever tried with an Old 303 British and cheap Bushnell 3X9 Sportview.

 

[element]

What really irks me is the likelihood that there are two people working in tandem. It's not just one maniac, it is 2? It really bothers me that both these people think its a good idea to shoot innocent people and are helping each other. Wtf is wrong with people these days? This reminds me of the group of guys who bbqed a kitten and laughed about it. People can really be sick in the head you know? And when a few get together it spells disaster.

 

[GTaudiophile]

My dad and I were discussing this over dinner the other night. He and his ex-military buddies at work think it could possibly an ex-soldier of some sort, like an ex-Navy Seal or something who just snapped. Either that, or he was never able to test his "abilities" in the military and is "testing" them now.

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
It's a spawncamper.

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I think that's a Quake 2/Quake 3 reference. I actually thought the same thing, hehe. When you're killed in Quake 2/3, you have certain spots that you respawn from. A lot of the newbies like to 'camp' or hide out in the corner or under a stairwell, etc, and just sit there and pick you off once you respawn.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: LedZeppelin

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
It's a spawncamper.

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I think that's a Quake 2/Quake 3 reference. I actually thought the same thing, hehe. When you're killed in Quake 2/3, you have certain spots that you respawn from. A lot of the newbies like to 'camp' or hide out in the corner or under a stairwell, etc, and just sit there and pick you off once you respawn.

Ohhhh, I remember that now.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: edro13

Originally posted by: Aceman

Originally posted by: sean2002
I can hit a human size target @ 400 yards with my colt h-bar ar-15, but I'm by no means a sniper quality shooter. Stop callng him a sniper and just call him what he really is, and that is a killer, plain and simple. A good sniper will put a roung in you eye socket @ 500+ yards

I'd say from my 16 years in the Army, that if he's getting head shots and he's shooting from 300-400yrds away, on a moving target, he's sniper trained. 400 yards away and 1 shot/1 hit is not as easy as you claim it to be. And, he's using a 5.56mm bullet. They aren't accurate at over 500-600 yards. Now if it's 200 yards or less, that's a different story

EXACTLY! I keep hearing people say "Wow, he must suck. He let 2 of them live." I'm like, WTF! He has hit AND KILLED 9 out of 11 MOVING targets from somewhere between 200-400 yards or more. He is DEFINATELY a trained sniper or at least a large gun enthusiast. They say he is using a .223, and some of the pics show an M16 or AR-15. I highly doubt he is using one of these. In my opinion, he is prolly using a Remington 700 or some other tactical rifle.

My AR-15 is pretty accurate up to about 150-200 yards, having about a 6 inch grouping.

Here is a pic of it: Right Nyaw

I just had a thought that may clear up why you think a standing individual is a moving target.

Do you ever go hunting, or do you just shoot at stationary targets on a range?

 

[0roo0roo]

i heard he switched to headshots after the media called him an amateur for taking body shots.

he hasn't missed yet right? one shot, one hit, seems pretty good accuracy to me.

another thing i heard on the radio, 9 killed, 11 shot. suppose he stops now? maybe that was his goal. 9/11/02.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i heard he switched to headshots after the media called him an amateur for taking body shots.

he hasn't missed yet right? one shot, one hit, seems pretty good accuracy to me.

another thing i heard on the radio, 9 killed, 11 shot. suppose he stops now? maybe that was his goal. 9/11/02.

Actually, if you read the whole thread, you would see that he did miss:

"And for all appearance representation for the shot, it's a person standing still. And all events had a little more -- that first shot at the Michaels store, where there's a bullet hole in the window about 6 feet 4 inches above the ground.

And everyone said he shot a window, why? He didn't shoot a window; he shot at a person and missed. There was one person walking around in that area who heard the sharp sonic crack of a bullet go by but didn't recognize what it was, and they lived through it. "